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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:16 PM
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Why is it "indecency" to walk naked, if you are alone?
Sure, it's weird (forget that being naked is our natural state). But, jailtime?...

Authorities: Naked prosecutor caught on camera
HAMILTON, Ohio (AP) -- A city prosecutor was charged with indecency after a security camera caught him walking around naked in a government building after business hours.

Scott Blauvelt, 35, was arrested Monday and charged with two counts of indecency. He was released from jail to await a hearing in the court where he usually works.

A guard monitoring a security camera spotted a nude man -- whom investigators identified as Blauvelt -- in a building that houses county offices the night of October 5, sheriff's Maj. Anthony Dwyer said. The night before, security video had captured Blauvelt naked in another area of the building, where city offices are located, Dwyer said.

Dwyer said investigators don't know why Blauvelt, who was alone, wasn't wearing clothes. He faces a month in jail and a $250 fine if convicted.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/11/prosecutor.indecency.ap/index.html
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:17 PM
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1. Unauthorized use of a municipal facility? n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:17 PM
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2. In a public building, it's illegal. At home, do whatever you want. NT
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:30 PM
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9. Big Brother is watching
I don't care if someone walks around naked in a public building if someone else is not there, but I do care about the obscene proliferation of cameras that snoop on people everywhere.

The Secret Service leave those they protect alone even if they are getting a BJ in the oval office or screwing a porn web page master man to man in the Lincoln bedroom, or where-ever Bush did the nasty with Gannon, and this is fine as security of this nature needs to be blind to those things to keep those they protect from compromising the protector's ability to keep them safe.

So it should be in this case, he should have been left alone if he was not harming anyone. Nakedness by yourself in this building is in questionable taste, but making a federal case of this costing him his job is obscene.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:35 PM
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11. I totally agree...
So, before you kow it, picking your nose in a federal building will cost you your job.
And, BTW, have you ever noticed that you can see into most publis restrooms in the US? You know, those restrooms made of plastic walls with screws into the walls (the most common ones); there are sizable slits between the walls, and when you walk by you can see inside, whether you like it or not. So, is it indecent to be seen naked on a toilet in one of the publis restrooms? No wonder jesus cries all the time these days :)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:36 PM
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14. And how does "picking your nose" compare with walking around nude? NT
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:47 PM
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18. Indecent.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:48 PM
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20. Picking one's nose in public is obnoxious, distasteful, but it has never
been considered "indecent."
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:50 PM
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23. I hope he sues. n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:36 PM
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12. I don't know where you live, but here in NYC, on the nights I'm working
late in my office's building and I'm alone, I'm glad the security guard in the lobby has those camera working. (And I've never had the urge to strip down and walk around the building, either.)
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:48 PM
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19. Please, don't tell us about your other urges. Thanks. n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:50 PM
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22. I didn't tell you about any urges at all. NT
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:51 PM
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24. Good, because we don't want to hear them.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:05 PM
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27. Are you cocksure?
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:10 PM
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30. You're right. Perhaps SOME people might want to hear them
:) I've seen it all already. Not interested.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:56 PM
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26. I live in Eugene, Oregon where it is legal for women to be topless
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 01:58 PM by Ferret Mike
It is fine for you to not have the compulsion to scamp au natural in a vacant building.

I merely say that if goober on the camera station sees you do this, he should not say anything and forget he saw anything if it does not fall in the purview of protecting the building and what's inside from those unauthorized to be there.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:08 PM
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28. Or the guard could have told him face to face.
"Just a heads up, but we can see you on the camera and it's recorded. What if there is an emergency and someone has to look over the tapes?"

Being human isn't powerful enough though.

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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:12 PM
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31. Probably the guard was afraid of becoming gay or something.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:34 PM
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40. Yeah, and prayed for guidance, and Jesus said,
"Bust him."
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:18 PM
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3. He might have been photographed with John Ashcroft.
Can't have that.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:52 PM
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25. LOL.
:)
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:19 PM
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4. Insert sound of one hand clapping.
--IMM
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:19 PM
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5. He actually wasn't alone.
Dancing around naked inside your house but in front of the picture window that faces the street would be considered indecent. Pull the curtains, and no one cares.

If the security cameras weren't on -- and there was no after-hours janitorial crew or other workers present -- and nobody would have known or cared. Ain't what happened....
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:21 PM
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6. Because naked genitals make the baby Jesus cry!
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 01:25 PM by LostInAnomie
That's why I am NEVER naked. Even in the shower I wear jeans.

I also never wash my junk either. That could lead to impure thoughts which kill baby angels.

Why do you hate Jesus, Angels, and America?
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:27 PM
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7. Ahahahahah!
True. That's it. And if baby jesus cry, Chimpy hears it and bombs a country.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:28 PM
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8. If God wanted us to be naked, we would have been born that way. n/t
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:17 PM
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37. Good one. nt
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:35 PM
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10. well there was a person there a security guard and it doesn't matter
if he saw him on a security camera or what. And maybe there may have been other people in the building such as cleaning people or even people working late who might have seen him. The question is why is he walking around naked anyway? maybe he should have just stayed in his office naked rather than walk around the building that way.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:36 PM
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13. Obviously, he wasn't alone
Or no one would know.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:40 PM
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15. Thanksgiving should be a national day of mourning for our
horrendous puritan heritage.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:40 PM
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16. Because you couldn't get a pin up Americas ass
with a jackhammer. This is the most tight-assed nation on earth. Guns? Great! Death, mayhem and destruction? Awesome! Screwing the little guy? The American way! Criminals in power? Bring em' on! Nudity? An abomination against all that is holy, unless you are a Congressman seeking pictures of teenagers of course...
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:45 PM
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17. He's a fucking weirdo... What if you decided to come
to the building late at night to do some urgent work, and you stumble upon
this naked man walking around?.. What if your wife went to work and stumbled upoon this man?... The guys got a problem and needs help.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:49 PM
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21. And the solution: fire him.
That's gonna help him quite a bit.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:08 PM
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29. If I or my wife happened upon this guy
we'd have a hilarious story to tell for years to come... Not saying the guy doesn't have a problem but it's not like he's hurting anyone..
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:12 PM
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32. Not yet!...
But I think he has a mental problem... that may lead to something harmful.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:15 PM
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36. Like what?
Masturbation with a deadly weapon? :)
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:58 PM
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43. Who the fuck knows... but this guy should
not be walking around a public bldg at night naked!

What if a woman gets off the elevator and sees him, starts screaming hysterically, and he gets frightened and accidentally hurts her trying to calm her down?

Is that so far fetched !
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:14 PM
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34. Dunno, in my experience...
Those who get really upset about trivial stuff such as this have much bigger things to hide or just huge unresolved issues within themselves.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:12 PM
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33. Violated his department's dress code
:nuke:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:14 PM
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35. Completely incoherent. The person wasn't alone - they were on camera.
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 02:15 PM by BlooInBloo
Duh.

EDIT: As this story, along with innumerable others prove, *believing* one is alone is a quite different thing from *actually being* alone.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:17 PM
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38. Because these days, no one is ever truly "alone"
There is always someone or someTHING watching and recording your moves..

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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:20 PM
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39. Traitor kitty!
:)
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:40 PM
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41. If it were a good looking nude woman the guard would have sold videos of
her.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:47 PM
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42. This is exactly the type of thread that the wingnuts will latch on to...
as an example of the "moonbats" over at DU.

As a woman who has often worked in large office buildings alone during off hours, I would not be the least bit amused if I happened across a naked man. I would find it rather threatening and think that most women would.

This is an interesting little tidbit left out of the OP:

"Blauvelt's lawyer, Michael Gmoser, said in a statement Tuesday that his client was seriously injured in a 2005 car accident, suffers from mental illness and is on medication for seizures."

Common sense, people.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 04:00 PM
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44. Can't a guy engage in an innocent frolic without a lot of static?
:cry:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 04:02 PM
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45. thats Hamilton! with an exclamation point
what a bonehead.
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