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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:48 AM
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Baker's Panel Rules Out Iraq Victory
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 08:49 AM by maxrandb
http://www.nysun.com/article/41371

I know it's from the NY Sun, but WOW!, Just "blanking" WOW!

Baker's panel is expected to say that victory in Iraq is not possible. (Bolding is mine.)

"WASHINGTON — A commission formed to assess the Iraq war and recommend a new course has ruled out the prospect of victory for America, according to draft policy options shared with The New York Sun by commission officials.

Currently, the 10-member commission — headed by a secretary of state for President George H.W. Bush, James Baker — is considering two option papers, "Stability First" and "Redeploy and Contain," both of which rule out any prospect of making Iraq a stable democracy in the near term.

Instead, the commission is headed toward presenting President Bush with two clear policy choices that contradict his rhetoric of establishing democracy in Iraq. The more palatable of the two choices for the White House, "Stability First," argues that the military should focus on stabilizing Baghdad while the American Embassy should work toward political accommodation with insurgents. The goal of nurturing a democracy in Iraq is dropped."

Don't know what Baker is trying to pull here, but he's a guy that I wouldn't trust with my fucking dog, and I can't figure out why this would come out now, but maybe Bush Sr is giving Junior a little education is political back-stabbing.

27 days before the election, a "respected" Republican comes out and shatter's the Repug "stay the course" BS to smithereens.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:53 AM
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1. Stability First? wtf does that mean....might as well say
stay the course! We can't win and we can't stabilize it first!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:02 PM
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7. Probably was a term that was "focus grouped"
Or since we're talking about Repugs, "Focus Groped"
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:57 AM
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2. He's a Lawyer and the family FIXER
He INSTALLED this little shit in the first place. Remember, he's REPRESENTING the Saudis AGAINST the American Families who are sueing for the loss of their loved ones during 911, all american guy he is..

The plan is to cut Iraq up into three sections, give the Insurgents the DESERT, Keep one Section for American Oil Interests to pump Dry, and another to the Brits for helping us STEAL the Oil.

We pump them dry, redeploying our troops to the oil fields, and let them have their civil war out in the boonies where it's easier to use gunships, drones, B-52's, whatever works.

Looks like Daddy Bush is wiping Junior's ass again. Got his Fixer on it. Also Remember that Baker was in charge of FIXING the Money Problem, as in WHO should "forgive" Iraq DEBT, in other words, handing out a piece of the action in the oil fields.

The Redeployment will actually be to IRAN where more Oil Awaits.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:14 AM
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3. And Lest we forget; Baker was the "fixer" for Gore V Bush..
His opening arguments set the stage for a Federalist's view of the Constitution;
"Not all the votes HAVE TO BE Counted!"

Baker IS the biggest living CON-ARTIST on the face of this Earth!

Oh, and do note in the press release, not a word concerning safety for our troops.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:17 AM
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4. Good points
all of them.

Fucking Federalists are the end of this country, should all be lined up against the wall.. but you didn't hear ME say that :)

Rove/Baker are two of the most dangerous people in the world. Constitution Terrorists.
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vogonity Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:19 AM
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5. Not sure what to make of this... (n/t)
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:00 AM
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6. Simple...Phase 2
Now the enablers have their foot in the door; the dissection
process fueling capitalism and permanent entrenchment is set to begin.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:04 PM
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8. Soooooooooo fucked
n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:26 PM
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9. another thread on this here:
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:30 PM
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10. Baker admitted on Daily Show, Bush would not be pleased....
with his findings.

And that he would not release anything before midterm elections.
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