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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:35 PM
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Scary..Cows cloned from dead tissue
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 04:46 PM by undergroundpanther
And now that cloned cows have just be declared safe for human consumption...by the FDA...in..2003,

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/10/31/clone.food.ap/
Or was approved just now?..2006
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/16/AR2006101601337_pf.html


Considering Mad Cow is a problem with folded protiens.Cattle rancers don't want thier herds tested for,.And these "novel" protiens a side effect of GM, are often a source of allergies(remember the GM corn that set off allegic reactions) and funny how allergies have exploded among the population..I wonder why? Maybe the food industry and the mad scientists, are creating "novel protiens" setting off our allergies.??
http://agnews.tamu.edu/dailynews/stories/CFAM/Sep2506a.htm

In light of that, This,Is well, sickening.

....KC, delivered by Caesarian section on Monday, April 22, 2002, is the first calf ever cloned from cells of a slaughtered cow. She is not, however, the first clone to be produced from a dead animal. In 2000, Italian scientists produced a clone from a dead wild mouflon sheep.
“We’ve also taken cells from various other places on the carcass and have been able to get those cells to grow,” Stice continued. “We haven’t produced any more calves at this point; we’re looking for a business opportunity.”


http://www.thecattlemanmagazine.com/issues/2003/0703/cloned0703.asp

This has got to stop.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:37 PM
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1. Why?
I fail to see the problem.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:45 PM
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3. I have been reading where scientists believe that they will be able
to grow beef, chicken, etc., from stem cells and that animal slaughter will become a thing of the past. I would be all for this as the meat would never have been alive in the sentient sense - it would just be from a big petri dish. :applause:
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:53 PM
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5. Blech!
Ok ok, so that sounds great and all, but it certainly does NOT sound appetizing. I suppose we are working against thousands of years of hunter/gatherer mentality though, eh?

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:08 PM
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9. Well
It sounds nice on paper,all the "don't kill anything" types will be relieved of their misplaced guilt I guess,anyways cloning creates often different novel proteins, and when that happens it can instigate allergies. Also the cow the clone is from was dead,Upon death a body begins to decompose immediately.It breaks down instantly.Ever have a pet die in your arms, My pet rat did and I was upset but I noticed that the moment he died his eyes changed. They grew dim,like a light was dimmed out in them, they lost their bright pink vibrancy, grew grey and rough,not shiny and bright the bio-life energy leaving my beloved rat changed his body into a corpse instantly. It was sad and frightening seeing death take my pet like that.I buried him that day.Cried my eyes out.


What is death? Why does it change a body so quickly?

Decomposition begins upon the moment of death. That's why my rats eyes turned grey so fast. Decomposition can be slowed down with refrigeration,freezing and chemicals.And that would effect the tissue quality. But by time that calf KC was cloned the host body was already decomposing and changing physically..

Cloning a new life from a corpse seems very sick,and very risky.Considering how decomposition works.

At death, the body begins to decompose. Bacteria go to work on the tissues and by 24 to 36 hours the smell of rotting flesh appears and the skin takes on a progressive greenish-red color. By 3 days, gas forms in the body cavities and beneath the skin, which may leak fluid and split. From there, things get worse. Add to this, predation by animals and insects and the body can become completely skeletonized before long. In hot, humid climes, this can happen in 3 or 4 weeks
http://www.dplylemd.com/guest-articles/medicine-forensics/timely-death.htm
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:38 PM
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2. mmmMMMMMMMmmmm! DEEP DISH!!!!
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:52 PM
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4. My god.
Next thing you know, they'll be taking organs out of dead people and transplanting them into living people.

:scared:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:54 PM
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6. Yep
The old rich sociopathic CEO pigs fear death almost as much as poverty.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 04:59 PM
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7. LOL.
:rofl:
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:03 PM
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8. If you can get past the revulsion of eating meat grown in a petri dish
then there may be good things about it. Wait, don't flame me yet.
No slaughter of animals, no need to "feed" them, no
pollution from animal wastes, probably a lot cheaper to produce,
so probably feed more people for less.
Scientists may be able to control fat content and actually use
fewer additives,, no pesticides,,,, I don't know if I would
actually be against it.
Kind of Solyent Green (sp?) like, isn't it?
Probably best to not eat meat altogether, but can see it's possibilities.
I eat tomatoes that never touch dirt, so hey.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:08 PM
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10. I grew up on a Texas ranch and my grandfather took me to a..
slaughterhouse when I was about 10. Let me assure you that the notion of meat grown in a petri dish pales in comparison!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:10 PM
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11. They are not talking about PETRI DISHES here
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 05:12 PM by undergroundpanther
They are talking a live cloned calf cloned from a corpse ,raised and slaughtered and us EATING it.Did you read it?

KC, delivered by Caesarian section on Monday, April 22, 2002, is the first calf ever cloned from cells of a slaughtered cow. She is not, however, the first clone to be produced from a dead animal. In 2000, Italian scientists produced a clone from a dead wild mouflon sheep.

This Calf was not in a PETRI DISH.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:33 PM
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13. No need to SCREAM AT ME HERE. If you read my post, I was
talking about something else entirely.Before you suggest I might want to read the post, you might read the post.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:16 PM
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12. This calf was delivered by c section
So much for the petri dish.
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zreosumgame Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:35 PM
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14. you make the stament without support
that BSV is a result of GM. Got any proof?
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