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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:41 PM
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It bears repeating: VOTE D even if it is for a DINO. HERE'S WHY:
I will vote for Jim Matheson this year, ONLY because if we take back power, the following will happen:

- At least 9 Congressional Progressive Caucus Members would become Committee Chairmen or Chairwomen
- An additional 35 Congressional Progressive Caucus Members would become Subcommittee Chairmen or Chairwomen.

The following Progressive Caucus Members would become Committee Chairs:

- Congressman George Miller, Chairman of Education and Workforce Committee
- Congressman Barney Frank, Chairman of Financial Services
- Congressman Henry Waxman, Chairman of Government Reform
- Congressman Bennie Thompson, Chairman of Homeland Security Committee
- Congressman Tom Lantos, Chairman of International Relations Committee
- Congressman John Conyers, Chairman of Judiciary Committee
- Congresswoman Louise Slaughter, Chairwoman of Rules Committee
- Congresswoman Nydia Velazquez, Chairwoman of Small Business Committee
- Congressman Charles Rangel, Chairman of Ways and Means Committee

The following Progressive Caucus Members would become Subcommittee Chairs:

- Appropriations Subcommittees -- Congresswomen Rosa DeLauro and Marcy Kaptur and Congressmen John Olver, Jose Serrano, and Ed Pastor
- Armed Services Subcommittee, Congressman Neil Abercrombie
- Education and Workforce Subcommittees, Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey and Congressman Dennis Kucinich
- Energy and Commerce Subcommittees, Congressman Ed Markey and Congresswomen Jan Schakowsky and Hilda Solis
- Financial Services Subcommittee, Congresswoman Maxine Waters and Congressman Luis Gutierrez
- Government Reform Subcommittees, Congresswoman Diane Watson and Congressmen Dennis Kucinich, Elijah Cummings, Danny Davis of Illinois, and William "Lacy" Clay
- International Relations Subcommittee, Congressman Donald Payne
- Judiciary Subcommittees, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee and Congressmen Jerry Nadler and Melvin Watt
- Interior Subcommittees, Congressmen Raul Grijalva and Tom Udall and Congresswoman Donna Christensen
- Rules Subcommittees, Congressman Jim McGovern
- Small Business Subcommittees, Congresswomen Madeleine Bordallo
- Transportation and Infrastructure, DeFazio, Filner, Holmes-Norton, and C. Brown
- Ways and Means Subcommittees, Congressmen Pete Stark, Jim McDermott, and John Lewis of Georgia
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:51 PM
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1. I know. And I will.
Really, I'm pretty lucky in my choices. And I keep hoping Hillary will grow into a stateman instead of just an ambitious politician.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:58 PM
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2. I'll make you three promises
I'll vote for my DINO (Nelson, FL)

AND

...if these new committee and subcommittee chairs make satisfactory, appreciable progress towards turning things around, I'll change my party registration to Democrat before the '08 election. (I'm an independent.)

On the other hand, if there's no real progress by the '08 election, I promise you I'll never vote Dem again -- because I'll be voting in some other nation's elections.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:00 AM
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3. K&R. I am Independent voting straight Democratic.
Previously, I always shunned voting for a party and supporting for an individual. That was before the Republican Party went insane and eliminated the voice of the individual.

The Republicans are the greatest danger to our Democracy that has ever existed. They are poised to destroy everything our Costitution stands for. They must be replaced, at all costs.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:02 AM
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5. thank you - remember to R in the K & R :)
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:01 AM
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4. I tell you I will fucking vouch for Bennie Thompson personally
He's a Mississippi Congressman. He's not in my district (Gene Taylor is), but Thompson is about as good as Mississippi can get.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:21 AM
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6. Of course, in Matheson's case, your vote won't matter. He'll
win in a landslide, no matter what. Most Repubs in the district love the guy, and have never heard of the schub (R) running against him.

In Matheson's case, I think voting your conscience won't make a bit of difference. That seat goes D no matter what.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:55 AM
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10. Well perhaps - they have been redistricting
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greeneyedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 01:12 AM
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7. right. vote your heart in the primary but use your head in the general.
there's a time & a place for everything, and there is no such thing as "winning by losing."

the steps ALWAYS go in this sequence:
1) obtain power
2) implement agenda

so work the process to get the right people into the primary, but in the real election, you are going to get incremental positive change or negative change/none at all.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 01:22 PM
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17. You got it. Thanks!
:thumbsup:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 02:10 AM
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8. K&R.
Pragmatism and politics. Thanks for pointing this out.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 02:28 AM
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9. I hope Cali picks up a few 'D''s too, we need a John Conyers askiing ?'s
Lots of ?'s with subpoena power and the ability to put people under oath
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:59 AM
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11. I've been doing that.
I just hope we first, win, and second, no one is talked out of doing their duty. Great potential but let's carry it through.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:52 AM
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12. Helderheid ->
:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:56 PM
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16. so do you!!
:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:56 AM
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13. Total PARTY LOYALTY is required. Great post. Total...
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 11:56 AM by autorank
No time for personal expression, and I'm all in favor of that. We need the committees and the control of the agenda offered by being a majority.

Lets go for it. We'll set up re-education program for the DINOs and they'll be happy to attend. Everybody loves a winer.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:58 AM
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14. Supreme Court--if Dems control the Senate
and Justice Stevens (the most liberal member) retires, there is a better chance of a nominee who would be acceptable to us.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:00 PM
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15. That's been my plan
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 01:26 PM
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18. The Judiciary committee will be fierce!
for that reason alone...
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 01:29 PM
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19. helderheid..you are 100% right on!!
Just think Conyers..and Waxman..they have the goods on these rethug neo con bastards!

they have all the goods..and they are prepared !!

vote "D" all the way down the list..check your judges online if on your ballots..check cases they have been involved in and who they were appointed under..and really do check them..for your state supreme courts...and appellate courts..just google them up..if your dem party has not made a list of good judges..

i did a research for all of our fla judges for the 2004 general and posted it at Kerry headquarters...but now if no one has told you who is good and who is not..do the research for yourself..know who you are voting for..and send it out even to dems in your area....we need to be careful of the judiciary as well!!

fly
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 06:41 PM
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27. hey Fly!
:hi:

How are you doing?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 01:30 PM
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20. Trust me, I'm voting straight "D" for the forseeable future.
If people haven't realized the improtance of Democrat control by now, they never will.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:45 PM
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24. And how! n/t
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 01:31 PM
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21. Seeing Conyers with the gavel in his hand is worth almost anything.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:25 PM
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22. and SUBPOENA POWER
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:34 PM
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23. and more
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:59 PM
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25. Sraight D for me, for all the reasons you pointed out, and then
some! This will be the first time I will cast my vote for unknown/unresearched candidates. But conscience be dammned in this case. The Republicans have gotten us into this current mess by their 'talking points' united front, and that was only possible for the brain dead, the grossly incompetent, or the souls that completely lacked a conscience and agreed with B* on everything. Let's get these b-tards out of office!

k&r and thanks for posting.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 06:04 PM
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26. thank you!
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nedbal Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 12:53 AM
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28. WilliamPitt Mon Jul-10-06
WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-10-06 02:07 PM
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Just a reminder
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 02:19 PM by WilliamPitt
that if the Democrat running for the House and/or Senate in your district is a piece of crap, you should vote for them because you aren't voting for *them.*

You're voting for a recapturing of the majority by the Democrats.

You're voting for the removal of people like Frist and Hastert from power.

You're voting for the recapturing of the Intelligence Committee, the Finance Committee, the Armed Services Committee, the Ways and Means Committee, the Government Oversight Committee, and a dozen other committees of unbelievably substantial power.

You're voting to give subpoena power to John Conyers, Henry Waxman and Barney Frank.

You're voting for the ability to stop judicial nominees...and remember that Justice Stevens is 86 years old and not much longer for the world. You're voting to make sure another Roberts/Alito clone isn't elevated to the highest bench.

Just a friendly reminder.

One last edit, perhaps a snooty one, but it needs saying.

Responsible voting has nothing whatsoever to do with making you feel good about yourself or burnishing your liberal credentials. If you vote because you want to respect yourself in the morning, you are not being responsible to the country. This is a "we" deal, and this is also politics, which is a dirty business requiring multiple, constant and ever-present compromises.

Vote for majority control, no matter which individual Democrat you cast a ballot for. That is the responsible thing to do.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1603117
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:02 AM
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29. I would vote for a bologna sandwich id it was D & I hate bologna
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:47 AM
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30. Kickin' it.
AND VOLUNTEER, DAMN YOU!!!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:20 AM
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31. Don't just VOTE D - WORK FOR D.
Even if you have to hold your nose the whole time. This election will pivot on TURNOUT. And WE'RE the ones who have to turn other voters out.

Do it for Conyers and McDermott and the rest of our staunch Progressive fighters.

NGU.


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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:07 PM
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32. .
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:13 PM
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33. Time for me to send this out to my email lists
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:25 PM
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34. .
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