Andy Stephenson's Wikipedia entry has been deleted by the freepers

I've put a copy of the original entry at:

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Andy_Stephenson

Since most users at DU do not have access to that system (since it was never passed the Beta stage), please indicate what you like to see added to the entry. A picture of Andy will be appreciated as well. And unlike Wikipedia we can use fair use to its intended purpose and allow a lot more.

I discovered the WP entry too late and it was already clear that the freepers had performed a coordinated effort to stiffle the truth.

Anyway we can have a page about Andy which they can't touch which is better anyhow.

And they are too arrogant to believe otherwise. I can't wait until Larry Singer starts a decent alternative, because Wikipedia is operated by bullying.

And they allow stuff like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GabrielF/911TMCruft

And the freepers can just stiffle any critism by simple group bullying. Yellowcake forgery is next.

And the GOPMOB actively tried to censor me for saying that I don't like George W. Bush. That category and userbox has been deleted so many times that it just isn't funny and always out of process deletion as well.

due to the freeper's conspiracy?

On their deletion list she was deleted before Andy. Lori Klausutis was the aide of Joe Scarborough and found dead in his office. The M$M didn't report it and there was no investigation and she is now (after two unsuccesful previous attempts) deleted as non-notable. Killing somebody has become non-notable!

What we have here is a dead body with a knife sticking out of its back in the office of a Congressman. Murder looks likely, though there's a chance it was an accident. Maybe the victim fell backwards onto the knife which was sticking out of the ground and then they rolled over onto their front and died. But this is unlikely, highly unlikely - 100 to 1? 250 million to 1? 4 trillion to 1? Whatever, it's almost certainly murder, but we don't have the knife so we can't check for prints.

Republican precisely because of this mysterious death? As long as we're talking about black-mail potential, this one has to be ripe.

What a group of assholes...

The guys at the virulently anti-Olbermann blog Olbermann Watch have made it a point to "tend" Keith Olbermann's Wiki entry and make sure that it sounds as negative as possible. They deliberately put misinformation on it (such as that he graduated from the same public high school in New Jersey as Bill Maher, when actually he graduated from the same private school in New York as Chris Berman--only saying he "attended" that school, with the implication that he was kicked out later). They give an incorrect first name for his mother, and make a huge deal about him having given a Nazi salute wearing a mask of Bill O'Reilly, implying this was indicative of anti-Semitism on his part. The entry is fraught with "needs citations" as well.

The problem with Wiki is that when someone or something controversial is an entry, that entry becomes a constant battleground as people with one opinion about the topic battle with people who have the opposite opinion as to whose view will reign supreme. Usually those with the strongest opinions and the most dogged determination to come back again and again and change the thing win, and nine times out of ten that is whatever group of people is driven by the most negativity and hatred.

Being tended to by people at the 'wannabe' site.

:wtf:

Yes, the inhabitants of the site that think they're saving America by stalking DU and everything to do with it feel that a DU article on Wikipedia just isn't complete without a bunch of nonsense thrown in.

And the chief douchebag of 'em all? Yep, you guessed it. That candy-assed fake soldier himself Cockspot. The same asshole who was warned repeatedly to stop putting up a Wikipedia articke about his piece of shit wannabe website (to their credit, WP determined that the site is non-noteworthy). Here's a suggestion to Cockspot and all his little circlejerk wannabe buddies that are reading this (and I know they are): ENLIST IN THE FUCKING ARMY ALREADY, YOU CHICKENSHIT KEYBOARD COMMANDOS!

1. It is "election" fraud, not "voter" fraud. He wanted it made clear that is wasn't the voters, it was the system.

2. Anyone here at DU is free to post my avatar of Andy--he liked that picture.

There is so much more--I am away from home with limited computer time, so this is what I can offer this morning.

A bigger picture would be appreciated though

Same as Coffeenap's avatar, only bigger:

Maybe it's time to register at Wikipedia

That's pretty much LAST place I would go for political info. The deletion policy at Wikipedia pretty much sums up why... The loudest person on an article pretty much controls the flow of information. I've seen it happen to non-political entries as well, which just baffles me.

My guess would be the concern was for unproven (in a court of law etc..) accusations against others that impeded his care etc.

While we all know what those assholes did, unless there has been legal proof to back it up I can see why wikipedia may want to stay out of it.

Try posting again with the freeper accusations removed and see what happens.

It is not about concerns either, it's just bullying. And if you recreate it, it'll just be deleted.

when I read the link provided in the original post there were accustations against the freepers. By having those accusations, it opened the door for their crap to be used also. I got the impression the wording in the link of the original post was what was posted at wikipedia. If it was, I can see the admins at wikipedia seeing these as accusations against others that are not backed up legally. If so, should they allow wikipedia to become a place to hurl claims such as these that can have legal repurcussions?

Why can't a page be devoted to Andy based on his accomplishments, his untimely death, etc.. without brining up those assholes directly?


I think it's more important to honor Andy's work than use the page to go after those assholes - that's what DU is for :-)

It should not be stiffled. And it was deleted because tons of freepers said that it was non-notable. It had nothing to do with accusations and all the evidence is on this board because it happened very publicly.

And I think that it should be mentioned that the Paypal fraud of a freeper who made a contribution and then withdrew it screaming "scam!" was one of the major reasons why Andy died.

If you want to honor Andy at a site like wikipedia, you'll have better look skipping that crap regardless of how true it is.

I just saw that it was nominated and turned into a giant flame war and that it was a coordinated freeper effort and they shouted the loudest for the most part.

I don't contribute at WIkipedia anymore. I've done a couple of entries and just saw how ALL entries are subverted by freepers and turn into giant flame fest.

I just made a copy so at least it is left and I deleted all their crap, because they added lots of craps and false accusations at Andy. And I most definitely want it to mentioned that it was the freepers who caused a situations which triggered Andy death and played a role. That should not be stiffled. Neither should it stiffled that the deletion was a coordinated effort from both Wikipedia and the site which shall not be mentioned and that site is always behind stunts like this. These are not book burning nazis, they are far worse!

Notice that they are deleting ALL pages which are embarrasing to the Bush administration. And those which are not deleted will be marked again and again until they finally get their way.

I didn't realize wikipedia was toting the bush line also.

And the people who (according to themselves) somehow managed to get Andy's medical records while he was being treated?

Either way, more despicable people I've never met.

A lot of info exists about the period from April - June 2005, and the smear campaign Andy was victim of.
Let's say it like this; it wasn't Free Republic's best time ...

If they ever had a 'best' time, that is.

The DU'ers collected money for Andy's operation, and it was one of the most fun periods I'd had on this board. Here's the first collection thread - warning, dial up heavy:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3561640

I just wish he could have lived on, and continued his work :-)
Here's to you Andy, wherever your democratic soul my be now :toast: