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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:23 PM
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Poll question: If the gop retains congress, was the election stolen?
I understand that a lot of us will instantly conclude that the gop stole the election using machines if they retain the house. However, if the gop loses seats, how do we know it wasn't stolen? There is no way of finding out.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:27 PM
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1. You Want to Know How We Will Know?
Because they have done everything possible to silence us on the faultiness of electronic voting... not to mention how they ignored this topic for sooo long. The republicans already look guilty as sin.... so if they bitch and complain, we shove the truth down their throats!
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:27 PM
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2. Simple
If the polls show a significant lead, and it flip-flops overnight, they have stolen it. There is no way they retain the House without theft. None.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:21 AM
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7. I'm With You...
I'm skeptical of (wholesale) election theft but if the Dems have huge leads in the final polls and don't do well on election day then I'm going to be very skeptical...

I realize the difference between polling and actual voting but polling is the only check to see if the actual vote was accurate...
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:29 PM
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3. "There is no way to find out" - YES THERE IS, but
it's an independent exit poll in battle states, one that Paul Lehto (election attorney and also a DUer) is associated with.

And my thread on it got
let's see : 1 reply

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2439305
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:30 PM
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4. And it's not just the electronic machines, it's the purged voter rolls we have
to be mindful ot.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:31 PM
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5. You can't prove a negative
So my reply is, "Probably."
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joe_sixpack Donating Member (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:19 AM
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6. My guess is
that we will never be able to accept an election result that goes against us ever again.
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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:32 AM
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8. "There is no way of finding out."
that is exactly the problem to begin with.
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