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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:19 PM
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Rove Was Tipped Off Re: Timing of the N. Jersey's Gay Marriage Ruling
I knew it. Rove and Bush were too confident. Rove ALWAYS uses homosexuality in his campaigns!

Here's what I wrote just a few weeks ago. I thought I was losing my mind, but now maybe not.

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"Karl Rove, Homosexuality, Political Tricks & The Upcoming Election." Friday 13, 2006

I confess. I am close to chewing my nails with anxiety about Karl Rove and why he is so, so quiet just three weeks away from the national mid-term elections with control of the House and Senate at stake. Like everyone here, I want to win. And this time, it really looks good for us and our candidates are performing like champions. But...

I finally read "The Architect" by Wayne Slater and James Moore and there are two things that, yes, worry me:

1.) Karl Rove doesn't sit out an election cycle and watch his clients lose. He always has a powerfully constructed campaign strategy, has his soldiers lined up with timetabled actions, his missiles out of the silo, and a bomb or two to drop against the opposition right at election day.

2.) Karl Rove's "bombs" have almost always been the cultural, political and religious explosive of homophobia. From his early days in Texas, homophobia has been his weapon of choice and he never fails to use it.

Rove had fliers depicting black and white homosexual men engaged in sex placed on the windshields of cars in church parking lots throughout Texas just before election day. In Alabama, Rove used right wing law students to trigger suggestions that his client's opponent was homosexual knowing they'd spread the word in their hometowns. Before the 2004 election, Rove was engineering anti-gay marriage initiatives to coincide with the plebiscite.

When Mark Foley's page scandal first broke as news, a few DU'ers here posted immediately that they thought that perhaps the "story" was orchestrated by Rove. I thought at the time that they were tin-foiling. I mean it hurts Republicans, not Democrats, right? It looks like it's going to hurt even Hastert, right? Yet, there is Bush standing shoulder to shoulder with Hastert for the whole world to see.

And guess what: it's another homosexual "bomb" dropped just before the election and ABC swears that they got the story from a Republican source. A Republican source? And didn't Rove's comment about the Foley episode ("It complicates things") sound just a little to rehearsed?

What is Karl Rove up to? He still has some Ace up his sleeve. I know it.

Someone send over the sedative for me. Things are looking too good to be true.

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:22 PM
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1. This might be a surprise for non-Jersey (or straight Jersey) DUers but...
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 08:35 PM by haruka3_2000
this was expected to happen during this month for a long time. It had to do with the forced retirement of the chief justice. Rove does not control her birthday.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:26 PM
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3. lol
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:33 PM
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7. so non-Jersey gay DUers all knew about it?
jeez.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:36 PM
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11. Fixed.
Anyone who followed Garden State Equality (probably a good portion of informed gay NJers) knew the ruling was to be expected before her forced retirement, which was today.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:33 PM
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8. I guess I'm missing something here...how does her retirement have
anything to do with when this ruling is officially released?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:36 PM
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12. Because from what I understand
all the rulings that she has participated in must be released before her retirement.

And her retirement was today. Her birthday.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:37 PM
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13. Correct. nt
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:59 PM
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18. Well, that seems totally nutz to me but I guess it might be factual.
What if one of the judges were to die of a heart attack right after they decided, but before it was
officially released...would that invalidate it?
:eyes:
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:38 PM
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14. Who do you think set the policy of forced retirement for NJ supreme court justices?
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:41 PM
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15. ...
:rofl:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:31 AM
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23. ROVE DID!!!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:31 AM
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22. Knock it off, Haruka -- of course Rove controls her birthday!
Remember: Rove is omnipotent. He is perfect. He is God.

Silly New Jersey lesbian...
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Grebrook Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:23 PM
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2. It doesn't matter, no one care, NO ONE ON TELEVISION IS TALKING ABOUT IT
and hence the issue is dead. It won't help to galvanize conservatives and the rest of the country is sick of talking about it.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:32 PM
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5. Television is the last place to hear ' IT ' Kkkarl helps run MSM...
just hang here at D.U. and get Substantiated Information ,banned by MSM.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:34 PM
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10. Well, if it's being used to mobilize the Faux News "base" then
why wouldn't it be a major issue in the MSM?

:crazy:
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:45 PM
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16. Major issue ? Major hook, Major Screen , Major Scam Media.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:48 PM
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17. Whatever dude.
It's not getting that much coverage. I think you're being paranoid.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:11 AM
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21. I hope your right.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:30 PM
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4. This is their ace in the hole.
Ignore it at our own risk.
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Grebrook Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:22 PM
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20. What are you talking about? Not Even Fox News is talking about it. O'Reilly hasn't said a word
and neither has anyone on Cavuto's show or Hannity's show. I saw John Gibson talk about the legal aspects about it yesterday, but no the political ones. It's already disappeared. Because it didn't legalize gay marriage, just civil unions (probably). No one is talking about it on Fox News or MSNBC or CNN. Talk radio isn't enough to get people worked up. If it isn't hammered across the airwaves on both television and radio it isn't going to have a collective effect.
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:33 PM
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6. Rove is just a half-bright prick...
he is no smarter than anyone else, he'll just stoop lower. The repugs are going to lose this election.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:34 PM
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9. I don't care what that leather slaves sissy boy says
or his mouth farting boss either. I don't want to hear it

He's going to lose this election big and he'll have plenty of time to go rooting around in the mud with his nose like the pig he is.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:17 PM
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19. I disagree. (nt)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:36 AM
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24. It's A Non Event...
The Supreme Court essentially punted...

They said gay couples have the same rights as straight couples and it's up to the legislature to give that arrangement a name.

Fuck Karl Rove...People here give that effete tub of goo too much credit. We lose because we are dumb, not because they are smart...
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