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kpete

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Fri Oct-27-06 04:59 PM
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Buzz in Virginia-Something "Not Very Nice" About Sen. Allen

Buzz in Virginia
Emails began pouring in earlier today about a rumor on Capitol Hill about some trouble in Sen. George Allen's (R-VA) divorce file. Josh Marshall and others cannot get a response from the Allen campaign.

It seems everyone is emptying their opposition research files today.

Update: A very reputable political reporter tells me this isn't from Democratic opposition research and that it's probably coming out because many feel Allen "crossed the line" when he started talking about Jim Webb's novels.

I'm told divorce records are usually sealed for two reasons: (a) to protect kids, and (b) to protect large financial fortunes. Neither situation applies in Allen's case, so the suspicion is that it's something not very nice.

Update II: A clue might be in Ryan Lizza's recent piece on Mark Warner that cites a story that had been "making the rounds" about a 2008 presidential contender who "once spit on his wife." That rumor was also about Allen.

more at:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/10/27/buzz_in_virginia.html

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Cooley Hurd

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:01 PM
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1. Something tells me that spitting on his wife is the least of it...

:puke:

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Aviation Pro

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:16 PM
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6. You'd probably get closer to the truth....

...if you replace the 'p' with an 'h.'

But just guessing here.

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originalpckelly

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Fri Oct-27-06 09:52 PM
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17. Shitting on his wife? That is an odd behavior...

Do you mean hitting on his wife? (As in beating her?)

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kazoo of the north

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Fri Oct-27-06 10:58 PM
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19. George Allen is his own flying wonderbitch

You could have a look at several examples of his borderline psychotic behavior. Dead animal parts (deer heads), spitting tobacco juice on women & little girls.... oh just click on the link.

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Bucky

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Sat Oct-28-06 12:07 PM
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34. Welcome to DU kazoo. What an interesting first post.

Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 12:07 PM by Bucky

I wonder if maybe it means "shitting his wife" rather than "shitting on his wife," which is to say they were practioners of the erotic technique known as tracheogynocoprafilia, the act of receiving sexual pleasure from swallowing your paramour and letting them pass entirely through your digestive track. Few men have mouths and assholes large enough to complete this physical act, but I believe George Allen would be up to the job.

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countingbluecars

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Sat Oct-28-06 12:16 PM
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36. Yuck

I read those examples. Allen is a pig!

Welcome to DU.

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AspenRose

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Sat Oct-28-06 10:51 PM
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42. "...his own flying wonderbitch"

Man, that made me laugh.

Welcome to DU :hi:

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TankLV

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Sat Oct-28-06 07:09 AM
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23. It's a reference to a sexual fetish where participants literally shit on each other to get off...

Called "scat"...

Pissing on someone is called "water sports"...

Owww - mind mind hurts already...

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MasonJar

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:05 PM
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2. Please update me. I have missed the "novel" charge. What?

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Cass

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:14 PM
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3. His sister wrote a book that described very disturbing behavior

posted earlier here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Senator Allen's sister, Jennifer Allen, documents many cases of her brother's bullying in her book Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter. Read the excerpts below.

Explaining why she is scared of heights, Ms. Allen writes that "Ever since my brother George held me over the railing at Niagara Falls, I've had a fear of heights."

Referring to George's relationship with one of her boyfriends: "My brother George welcomed him by slamming a pool cue against his head."

Referring to George's early leadership skills, Jennifer wrote: "We all obeyed George. If we didn't, we knew he would kill us. Once, when Bruce refused to go to bed, George hurled him through a sliding glass door. Another time, when Gregory refused to go to bed, George tackled him and broke his collarbone. Another time, when I refused to go to bed, George dragged me up the stairs by my hair."

Referring to George's early career aspirations, Jennifer wrote "George hoped someday to become a dentist. George said he saw dentistry as a perfect profession - getting paid to make people suffer."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/08/16/gop-senator-ge...

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madmax

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Fri Oct-27-06 07:07 PM
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14. Get this guy to a shrink - pronto.

He sounds like one sick puppy to me. If all this is true, he has one big sadistic streak. Seems to be a trend with these repukes.

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SharonAnn

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Fri Oct-27-06 10:15 PM
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18. He sounds like *. What's with the psychopaths in the GOP?

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KansDem

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Sat Oct-28-06 11:46 AM
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33. It's in their name: "Ghoulish Or Psychopathic" (eom)

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Bucky

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Sat Oct-28-06 12:12 PM
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35. So this is not about Allen spitting on women (see Post #19)

and welcome to DU, Cass.

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Straight Shooter

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:15 PM
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4. Considering what his own sister said about him, it's probably about abuse.

We've got a drunkard/ex-cokehead in the White House, surely there's nothing wrong with being a wifebeater. I mean, if you're a Republican, that is.

:sarcasm:

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Jacobin

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:18 PM
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7. That would be my guess, as well

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Sequoia

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:35 PM
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12. Don't forget the torture guru in the white house either.

Allen makes my skin crawl.

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TankLV

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Sat Oct-28-06 07:11 AM
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24. Perfect presidential timber - according to repukes...

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Midlodemocrat

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Sat Oct-28-06 11:19 AM
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32. That's what I think, too.

I think he beat her. I wish she would talk.

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kenny blankenship

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:16 PM
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5. Why is opposition research something Democrats rely on the press to do?

Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 05:28 PM by kenny blankenship

The same press that bent over backwards to put Bush into office and make Gore look bad?
The same press that tried to crucify Bill Clinton for 8 years?

If there's ONE THING the last 6 years have demonstrated it's that the modern Republican Party is shot through with bribe taking extortionate thugs, sexual harrasturbators who prey on kids +/or subordinates, as well as with the usual drunks and pillheads, nepotistic grafters, wifebeaters and amputee fetishists. We should be able to retake both houses of Congress on the scandal generated by "opposition research" alone, if we tried. Why aren't we any good at it?

If there's "something not very nice" about Allen--and it's not hard to imagine that there might be given his out of control mouth and the reported early history of violence against his family members--why the hell are we waiting on the press to decide to uncover it?

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RUMMYisFROSTED

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:20 PM
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8. With his mouth?

:shrug:

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Parisle

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:28 PM
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9. Suffice it to say,.....

----....that whatever is in those sealed divorce records would most likely make a moot point out of the "women in combat" remarks attributed to Webb 27 years ago, eh?

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Kierkegaard

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:31 PM
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10. This guy should be officially known as "Senator Stool Sample."

'Cause he's definitely a piece of shit.

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LonelyLRLiberal

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:35 PM
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11. Has anyone tried to get the divorce file unsealed?

Media types?

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Hav

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Fri Oct-27-06 05:49 PM
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13. .

Well, that could be interesting and it is what was hinted at in earlier threads talking about retaliation against the dirty smears of the Repubs.
I guess if Allen can dish it out, he can take it, right?

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KamaAina

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Fri Oct-27-06 08:57 PM
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15. "Sen. Macacawitz, have you stopped beating your wife?"

:P

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civildisoBDence

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Fri Oct-27-06 09:15 PM
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16. Did I get that right--he broke his little brother's collarbone?

I broke my little brother's GI Joe one time, but a collarbone?

Sounds like the Allen family is more like the Adams Family.

Newsprism

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blondeatlast

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Sat Oct-28-06 03:09 AM
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22. The Addams were remarkably civil and sane compared to this bunch, apparently. nt

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Lex

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Fri Oct-27-06 11:02 PM
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20. His ex-wife would know what's in those seal divorce records

and maybe she has suddenly felt like talking?

Court reporters, clerks, baliffs, the lawyers involved, and the judge would know too.

Is someone leaking?

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Imagevision

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Sat Oct-28-06 12:01 AM
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21. Maccawitz shoud be asked about reasons for divorce

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Bullshot

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Sat Oct-28-06 07:12 AM
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25. You know well that if Clinton was divorced they'd be on it

Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 07:13 AM by Bullshot

like flies on shit, putting him and Hillary through an inquisition 24/7. But the librul media never seems to want to probe anything like this on a Republican.

Take Ronnie Reagan for example. He was divorced. Nancy was 5 months pregnant on the day she and Ronnie tied the knot. But do we hear this? NOOOOOOOO! All we hear is how a morally upright person Mr. Reagan was.

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Vinca

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Sat Oct-28-06 07:17 AM
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26. Whatever it is, now is the time to open the dumpster.

No more afraid-to-be-offensive Democrats.

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stepnw1f

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Sat Oct-28-06 10:10 AM
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27. "WIFE BEATER"?

I wouldn't be surprised.... bigots do tend to be more violent than most folks.

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Harmonicaman

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Sat Oct-28-06 10:53 AM
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28. Hmmmmm

He sounds like one of those kids who pulls wings off flies, all grown up
guess he could either follow one of two paths in life : climb a tower and start shooting, or join the GOP and take his pick from corruption and hypocrisy, or mix and match both. Sadistic wife beater / abuser - Republican Presidential Material if ever there was one

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mitchum

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Sat Oct-28-06 11:08 AM
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29. WIFE BEATER

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Auggie

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Sat Oct-28-06 11:15 AM
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30. If he gets re-elected it'll either be a miracle or a stolen election

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Ignacio Upton

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Sat Oct-28-06 07:35 PM
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40. Diebold didn't help Kilgore beat Kaine in 2005

It won't help Allen beat Webb in 2006. I think we overestimate Diebold's ability to steal elections.

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IWantAChange

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Sat Oct-28-06 11:17 AM
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31. soon to be former Sen. Allen is perfect GOP Presidential timber......

he has the hypocrite, fear mongering, hate and deceit thing down pat - all he needs now are two-three Nazi's like Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove to tell him what to do and I think they have their man.

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YOY

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Sat Oct-28-06 02:15 PM
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37. He had an affair with that football he's always fondling in every ad

didn't he?

I knew it!

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mkb

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Sat Oct-28-06 03:19 PM
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38. Don't Make The Same Mistake I Did

     Just checking in.  The laser zappers have me a bit woozy,
and I have trouble getting things done.  You may know the
feeling.  I'm just taking the Kidd's advice, honey of a man,
and am trying to "get it back".  Just like the
Democrats need to.  Don't make the same mistake I did, by
doing things you aren't sure of, even though it's hard to be
sure about a lot of things.
     I'll try to stay put and get it back, as best I can.  To
people up here in the Pacific Northwest, Allen seems like a
sandbox vendor who has a lot of charm but is very rough.  Good
Luck.

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illinoisprogressive

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Sat Oct-28-06 07:33 PM
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39. Ryan Lizza on Cspan Sunday

On the Washington Journal. Maybe he'll discuss or someone will ask. Watch tomorrow morning.

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sable227

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Sat Oct-28-06 10:38 PM
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41. I'm wondering

Given what his sister wrote about him has made me wonder if there was not something in the divorce complaint about a form of mental abuse as well as physical. It sounds as though he got off on his sister's terror. It made him feel better, superior and in control. He sounds more like a sociopath to me.

I wonder if the people at "The Smoking Gun" have been able to get a copy of the divorce papers?

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BonnieJW

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Sun Oct-29-06 09:28 AM
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43. I can't believe this can't be found out

In this day and age, how is it that no one can find out about this divorce??? There has to be someone out there who knows someone who knows someone who can get into a data base. C'mon you wonderful geeks out there! Get busy!

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mobilist

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Sun Oct-29-06 07:04 PM
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44. Allen Ringtone

I played around the last couple of weekends on a new blog site to create political ringtones. Made a Macaca tone with Allen's comments in it, so this get's further distributed. If you like, text "rage macaca" to 41411 or go to ragetones.com. (this is free to downlaod, not a commercial service). Open to other ideas how to spread political messages via ringtones...

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