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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:20 PM
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John Kerry and Ted Kennedy each gave a Million Dollars. What about Hilary?
John Kerry has been raising money hand over fist for other candidates and has donated several million dollars and just last week donated another million dollars as well as Ted Kennedy. HILARY CLINTON HAS BEEN RAISING MONEY HAND OVER FIST FOR HERSELF. WHY HASN'T SHE BEEN DONATING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HELP OTHER SENATE CANDIDATES.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:21 PM
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1. She Was One Of The First To Give
She gave before anyone. A whole lot already.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:04 PM
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17. No doubt about it..
Hillary has been the top donor to Dem candidates so far..

"The DSCC has $9.7 million in the bank. So far, the committee has raised $104 million for candidates. Those numbers don't reflect a pair of $250,000 donations from Sens. Edward M. Kennedy and John Kerry. It does, however, include the more than $2 million this cycle from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/27/politics/main2131377.shtml
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:00 PM
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31. Actually that's not correct!
Hillary gave about $2 million recently, but hasn't contributed much more than that.

Kerry had already contributed more than $2.5 million to the Democratic committees; this additional $500K brings that total to $3 million.

Kerry has also contributed more than $12 million directly to candidates and Kennedy $9 million.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2905417&mesg_id=2905417

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2907084

http://www.johnkerry.com
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:21 PM
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2. Bill has been raisin mega-millions...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:22 PM
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3. I applaud Kerry and Kennedy, but I think you need to provide a link
before disparaging any Dem. This is not the time to do that!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:28 PM
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5. Don't worry about it. Hilary haters are a special breed...
... they don't give a rat's ass about things like facts or truth....
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:11 PM
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19. I am not a Hilary Hater. I just know she has been raising a lot of money.
John Kery has been accused of not giving enough. He has given plenty and raised plenty.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:32 PM
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21. (shrug) Fine. Then I guess you just have a *general* disregard of...
... the truth.

As has been pointed out several times in this thread, Clinton has given 2-3 TIMES what you said Kerry gave. If you cared the truth, you could've looked that up yourself before posting.

Clinton gave that 2.5-3.5 million BEFORE the outcry over Democratic fatcats not giving enough. She didn't have to be shamed into it.

Could she give more? Of course. Should she? Almost certainly. But to compare her *unfavorably* to Kerry - on that score - is either a flat lie, or idiotically willful ignorance.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:28 PM
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4. God I HATE her! She gave between $2.5 and $3.5 million!!!
There's my wonderful DUers.... Hilary hatred without the slightest regard for the facts.

What a bunch of goddamn geniuses DUers can be.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2354669
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:32 PM
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6. Yo, Bloo...
that's a couple of DUers. Don't despair. I'm not a major fan, but I have not and will not attack a Dem, especially now. And may the best man or woman win as far as 08 goes.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:36 PM
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9. lol - kewl - I'm actually not a hilary fan myself....
... I just hate the lies. There are plenty of REAL things to not like about her - such as her support for torture - why do people insist on making shit up? I just don't get it.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:32 PM
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7. Please do some research before you smear.....
http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/x_candpg.exe?DoFn=S0NY00188*2006

If you look through her contributions 2004-2006 she has disbursed somewhere around 1.5 million directly to candidate PaCs. Another million to several 501c3 and 501c4. While harder to track, keep in mind that any event she attends are commonly used by those group to raise money. I'm sure she probably appears at 2-3 fundraising events PER WEEK.

One other thing you're overlooking. SHE'S RUNNING FOR REELECTION! John Kerry and Ted Kennedy are not. She can't afford to run around the country raising money, she's trying to show she can carry the Red Areas of New York too.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:35 PM
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8. Good post!!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:42 PM
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12. Good Post, But Actually Kennedy IS Running I Believe
But he's totally safe and has no real challenge, so he gives anyway, because he doesn't need as much to defend his seat.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:43 PM
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14. Either does she n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:42 PM
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13. Yes, Ted is up for election
Hillary is carrying the state with something like 65% and wouldn't have to spend another dime to win. So perhaps you should do a bit more research as well.

And $1.5 million when she's raised $30+ million isn't much of anything.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:54 PM
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30. Ted is running - but he's a shoe in so he mine as well not be running
He's like an "automatic" :D
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:06 PM
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32. Again - and so is Hillary n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:15 PM
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34. Oh, I was not drawing a comparison
I was simply correcting an error in the post I replied to.

Read before posting please.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:42 PM
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37. The whole thread is a comparison
so it does matter.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:55 PM
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38. Glad you didn't admit you were wrong
That makes 0 for 10000000 posts here. No person on DU is ever wrong. :eyes:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:38 PM
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10. she recently coughed up another $2 million
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 09:41 PM by AtomicKitten
from Boston Globe 10/21/06: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/10/21/kerry_is_pressured_to_share_campaign_wealth/?page=1

Last month, when DSCC officials asked all Democratic senators for last-call financial contributions before Election Day, Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts was among three lawmakers who donated $1 million each. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York signed a check for $2 million.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:41 PM
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11. lol
So there ya go, donated twice as much.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:44 PM
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15. lol! Trying to counter a Hilary-hater with facts? What foolishness.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:48 PM
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16. She's been too busy getting "Major Plastic Surgery."
You believe the tabloids too, doncha.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:11 PM
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18. No PS that I noticed. She's stylen with a new do..Looks great! nm
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:29 PM
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20. OK, once again: HILLARY DONATED $9 MILLION.
Everybody got that now? Good.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:33 PM
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22. There's no amount she could give to chage the DU hatred of her.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:36 PM
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23. Ain't that the truth.
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 10:36 PM by AZBlue
They'd blame her for showing off and over-donating!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:50 PM
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27. LOL! They DID when I originally posted about her donations!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2354669&mesg_id=2354794

:rofl:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:09 PM
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33. and don't forget
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 11:12 PM by AtomicKitten
she puts babies on spikes.

"Hi! I'm Crazy Hillary! I put babies on spikes. Do you want a rack of babies? We've got babies on racks! Mmm, they taste of chicken!" ... They do! Babies taste of chicken! Cannibals say that human flesh tastes of chicken, so babies must taste of chicken. And chicken tastes of humans. Good, I'm glad you're coming with me on that. * Eddie Izzard

Cake or Death: http://www.auntiemomo.com/cakeordeath/welcome.html
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:42 PM
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24. Yeah, we call those posters the FRUMPS..
They Frump everything Hillary..So we point and laugh at them..
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:50 PM
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28. I love learning new words - thanks!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:43 PM
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26. Where did that number come from?
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 10:44 PM by ProSense
Got a link?
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:36 PM
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42. Link:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/10/hillary_clinton_2.html

Although it might be more than $9 million by now - this is from 10/13/06.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:43 PM
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25. Because She's Running Herself
She's got her own campaign to run. Kerry and Kennedy don't.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:51 PM
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29. She's joining the dirty book bandwagon and is writing her memoirs
with loads of porn. There's another lie to hate her for.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:16 PM
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35. Are you askign for a challenge grant?
Sen. Clinton did give $2 million recently and, I think about $9 million or so overall to the effort. It should be detailed in her www.fec.gov site, as it is for all pols.

I believe she gave this a couple of weeks ago. Sen. Kerry had previously given around $13 million through direct grants and through fundraising through his emails appeals and so forth. This money is in addition to what he had already raised.

I do not know who else has decided to donate more money. I would hope that some of it goes directly to the candidates, since I think they hire better ad makers than the national people do.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:28 PM
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36. I'm not a fan of Hillary's
But she has given several million to candidates and PAC's. Not only that, but Big Dog is campaigning in some tough races--it costs some major cash to travel all over the country lending his personna to try to help Democrats win in the tightest of races.
Can we stop skewering her now cause I am not sure exactly what else you want her to do?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:15 AM
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40. Actually to be exact, each gave $500,000 for a total of $1 million.
That was last week.

Hillary gave $9 million plus kicked in another $2 million last month, totaling $11 million from her war chest. She and Bubba have been doing fundraising for various candidates across the country. Kennedy has donated $1.5 million of his own money and Kerry $3 million from his war chest, and both also have been raising bucketloads of money for candidates across the country.

It's all good.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:09 AM
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39. The $9 million
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 01:18 AM by ProSense
disbursement isn't the same as a contribution to candidates. It simply means she paid bills:

http://www.fec.gov/press/press2006/20060228canstat/sen50disb2005.pdf

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00363994/252409

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00363994/200386


Clinton's PAC (nearly all wages and administrative expenses):

HILLPAC: Expenditures
Total records: 2045

Total Spent (view expenditures)
$2,401,758

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expend.asp?strID=C00363994&Cycle=2006

Now one of Kerry's PAC (nearly all contributions to candidates):

Keeping America's Promise: Expenditures
Total records: 54607

Total Spent (view expenditures)
$4,217,706

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expend.asp?strID=C00409508&Cycle=2006
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:23 AM
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41. ya know
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 01:32 AM by AtomicKitten
Maybe if you Kerry folks would curtail the comparison and bragging crappola and multiple daily homage threads, people would be nicer all the way around and stop pointing out the discrepancies, flat-out BS, and peccadilloes that really piss you off. Just a thought.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:38 PM
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43. They weren't disbursements, they were contributions.
"Sen. Hillary Clinton emptied her campaign account of more than $9M this quarter, pouring millions into Democratic Senate and House campaign committees and writing large checks to individual candidates."

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/10/hillary_clinton_2.html

And, then as AtomicKitten wrote, there's an additional $2 million on top of that.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:41 PM
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44. Sheesh!
:eyes:
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