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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:16 PM
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so that explains why Clinton came out for the filibuster...
Wow, It takes real courage for Clinton to come out for a filibuster after Akaka, Dorgan and Snow came out against it, thus ensuring there WON'T be a filibuster. What a political hack she is.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:20 PM
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1. Oh, fuck that.
She's on the correct side on this one. Let's leave it at that.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:21 PM
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3. agreed. nt
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:22 PM
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7. I agree.
The reasons for her support are not an issue for me at the moment, there is too much to do to get that mired in it. Support her for this decision, right now it is one minute and one Senator at the time.

I don't support all of her votes or statements, but I do heartily support this one!
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:21 PM
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2. It takes real courage to sling mud at a Senator for doing the right thing.
Give me a break.
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:27 PM
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11. and it takes real courage for a DUer to sling mud at another one..
Clinton is my senator and I'm sick of her political bullshit.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:29 PM
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15. Do you hate your mechanic for his or her "mechanical" bullshit?
n/t
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:50 PM
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30. LOL!!! Post of the day!!!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:49 PM
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28. I didn't sling mud.
Just pointing out that you are essentially criticizing your Senator for doing what you wanted her to do.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:52 PM
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31. She's my Senator too and although I don't agree w/ her 100% of the time...
(and certainly let her know it) this time she's stating that she'll do the right thing, I'm thrilled that she is and she'll be getting an email from me saying "thank you" for taking a stand against Alito and for the filibuster.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:21 PM
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4. Maybe yes, maybe no
I'll take it either way
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:22 PM
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5. I'm not Hillary's biggest fan...
...but on her behalf...

bite me
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:22 PM
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6. They were all begged on Wednesday by Kennedy and Kerry. I guess it was a
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 01:23 PM by blm
tough call for each of them to make. But, at least she's with it.
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JamRock Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:24 PM
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8. That was the time for leaders like hillary to stand in support. I want
her on CNN giving public support at this point.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:31 PM
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17. Then what. Will you then criticize her for not juggling torches...
... while appearing on CNN to support the filibuster?

Happy parachuting :puke:
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:25 PM
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9. I have posted against the filibuster in the past
because I knew it wouldn't work. But I agree with Reid that senators can vote for a filibuster just to show how strongly they disagree with Alito. I appreciate Hillary doing so. I hope some who said they wouldn't vote for a filibuster change their minds. I think it's great to flip-flop if you have a good reason to do so. That's just what I did on the idea of a filibuster.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:27 PM
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10. Actually, that tells you how powerful we really are out here in
the blogsphere. Yesterday, her staffers were telling callers that there wasn't going to BE a filibuster. Then Kerry steps up to the plate, and now she's on board. No, I'm not going to criticize her. Good for her, for her change of heart.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:27 PM
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or we all demanded they declare where they stood. this is where she
stands. she had to declare along with dorgan and the others. or is she suppose to keep her mouth shut for you so you can criticize her for that. or is she suppose to say she wont vote no on closture, so she doesnt get your criticism just now. wtf
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:27 PM
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12. She could reverse global warming on her own, & you'd still piss and moan
Nothing she does would ever make you happy, would it
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:33 PM
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18. oh, do you know me?
I happen to have been a huge Clinton fan until she became a shill for centrist ideology, showing no leadership or anything but an amendment against burning the flag. Let me repeat, I am not a Clinton basher, but on this subject, she should have been in the forefront. That's what this New Yorker expects from her senator.
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:34 PM
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20. Sorry delete NT
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 01:37 PM by choie
Deleted - sorry duplicate
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:28 PM
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13. Maybe so, but it's still a good move
rather have SOME Democrats showing spine (even if it's just for political traction in 2006/2008) than the one's supporting Alito's nomination or cowering in the corner.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:37 PM
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22. maybe not so why even say it n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:41 PM
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24. What??
I was responding to the OP not your post.
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:28 PM
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14. She'll get no criticism from me.
I applaud her.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:29 PM
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16. When did Snowe come out against it?
I haven't yet seen that. Do you have a link?

And no, I won't bash Hillary for the doing the correct thing.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:34 PM
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19. What she's doing has nothing to do with Dorgan and Snow. Wake up
The country will know her position on Alito, filibuster or no filibuster, and they know she's against his confirmation. She's knows very well that the right wing will use this against her as a future talking point even if there is no filibuster, so your theory is simply baseless and counterproductive.

Why anyone has to interpret this as some sort of self-serving political move is beyond imagination.
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:37 PM
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21. Thank you Senator Clinton
Now if we can only get Schumer on board.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:50 PM
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33. my pleasure, Sleepless
Glad to be of assistance. I'll talk to Chuck later over dinner and see if I can convince him....maybe throw a little leg at him, hehe :evilgrin:
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:38 PM
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23. Hillary came out after Kerry did
Kerry is pushing the filibuster to force Hillary out in 2008.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:43 PM
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25. really this is the stupidest post. she only voted for the filibuster
cause she knew the filibuster wouldnt happen. that is like the stupidest thing ihave heard. regardless she voted for it. but for someone to believe a motivation is cause you "think"it will faillll just shaking head
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:45 PM
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26. Hillary Clinton: Damed if she does; Damned if she doesn't.
This pretty much shows how absurd the criticism of Hillary Clinton on DU has become. It doesn't matter what she does, there will always be DUers attacking her.
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Roho Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:00 PM
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32. absolutely
I'm not a big fan but I find the way people attack her preposterous. I'm sure if she said black there would be 30 ready to jump up and down yelling White White White.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:45 PM
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27. What a rotten post
and I don't even care for HRC all that much. But when she does the right thing for once - just be glad!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 03:04 PM
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35. i agree and i can't believe we are falling for this crap/.
these people post and then take a hike..

shit stirrers i say!!

fly
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:49 PM
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29. I'm not a Hillary fan, but she's doing the right thing on this one, so
I find your post annoying.

It makes no sense to pounce on dems when they're doing the RIGHT thing.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 03:01 PM
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34. me thinks....we have people with disinformation??? n/t
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