You know, we'll have to forgive them ...

All those Democratic cowards in the Senate we will have to forgive, because there are courageous rightwingers who will try to take their place. And the rightwingers will get worse and worse.

Shortly after the impeachment of Clinton, the Democrats eked out enough victories to retain control of the Senate. A main reason that happened was that radical righties were so mad at the Republican Senators that they didn't vote for them. In the end, we will have no choice but to forgive, because the alternative is worse.

rather have a real fascist in than a collaborator. At least we will know where we stand and we can support the few real dem's left.

In order to FIX America and wake people up, we need to hit rock bottom (fascism). I'm tired of my political existence only being used to stop the Republican agenda, rather than promoting a progressive agenda. America has flirted with fascism for 25 years. It's best that we go there, if that's what sleeping America truly wants. Let it wake up America like a cold bucket of water on a sleeping giant.

Considering that the other alternative for South Dakota is TWO John Thunes....

We *need* to win the Senate in November. This will make chimp irrelevant for the remainder of his term and put a stop to Alito style appointments.

So huff and puff and talk about primary challenges all you want. Phone your senator and call him a fascist lover if it makes you feel better. You don't even have to forgive them if you don't want to. But in November, go in the booth and pull the Dem lever.

Any Senator who allows Alito onto the Supreme Court can, and must, be defeated in the primaries.

we had better "all hang together or we will all hang separately" as Benjamin Franklin told his companions in his day. I do not like the Democrats who seem to be siding with the pugs but I have enough brains to realize that some have to "play" politics in order to keep their seats in their more conservative states. Sen. Byrd is an example of that - he spoke out and now he is being targeted in such a state. I hope to God he maintains his seat - we need every vote we can get in fixing this mess. As to forgiveness - I personally will have a hard time forgiving pansy or fair-weather dems who help us loose another election in 2006 - 2008 by refusing to vote or voting for a party not strong enough to actually win. My daughter lives or dies depending on pug cuts to social programs. This is our nation and the lives of it's people we are fighting for.

What's the point of having leaders who don't lead? What good is a gun-shy general? I'd rather lose every vote and face a Senate of 99 Republicans before I support One Democrat that has no spine. If they're on our side, they're on our side and I can forgive a retreat but not here. Not now, this is the fight whether they like it or not. They either fight or get the hell out of the way in 6 months.

Prominent Democrats who've had the courage to stand up against the Republicans have been smeared in their home districts and basically destroyed by the GOP.

Where were all the wild-eyed tough Democrats, then? Where was the unity of the grass roots to support them when they came under fire?

Probably off bashing another Democrat for being too squishy.

You know, if we don't back them, they won't back us.

right.

the lesser of the "two evils" is the rubric which perpretuates a wholly corrupt system - is that the goal? ask yourself, friends and neighbors and i think you'll hear a resounding NO.

the repugs did have to lose an election to get their wacko base to elect them, they also had some help from rigged election machines.

maybe the Dems are learning lessons from the rigged election machines, by denying the very existance of a rigged system. But if that is the main lesson they get out of the past losses, then things are going to much more worse than they already are, as evidence by the current battles we are in at the moment.

old "guard"...Nothing is assured anymore.