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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:30 PM
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I'm going to keep saying it until it sinks in
Because I'm a stubborn, opinionated bastard who just happens to be right.

I'm not worried about impeachment. We've bigger fish to fry than the puppet in the White House and the guy with his hand up his ass.

What I want to see is Congressional Investigations. I want to see the Dems pursuing the things the voters said they wanted last night. I want them to use public opinion of Congress to leverage change in the way business is done in Congress. I want to see some serious arm-twisting--I want to see the Dems force the Republicans into defensive mode, putting themselves and their own ambitions before the interests of their party.

We know they're selfish. And we can use that to our advantage. If we use our new powers to launch investigations into the corruption in Congress, we can bring a lot of it into the public eye. We can dig out the festering boils and lance them. We can clear the air and restore America's faith in government.

We can FORCE bi-partisanship, but not in pursuit of the neo-con agenda. We can use the investigations to get rid of the worst offenders, and leverage others into supporting bills that not only help all Americans, but make it that much harder for this sort of thing to happen again.

We can't afford to leave any of this to fester in the darkness.

THIS course of action, at this point, is SO much more important than impeaching a lame duck President. If we can blight the name of the Republican Party to the point that it becomes synonomous with corruption and cronyism, we can gain even more ground in the future, and use our netroots to pursue true progressive policies in the future.

We made our presence felt for real this time around, and we can continue to do so. But the first step is to show the whole Republican ideology for the sham that it is.

Welcome to the Big Leagues, folks. It's time to play hardball.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:39 PM
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1. I agree, but I think they need to fix or repeal HAVA first!
HAVA (Help America Vote Act) is a major FUBAR that was written to disenfranchise Democrats by the RW House Bastards and needs to be either totally scrapped or completely overhauled.

Until they fix HAVA, it will take things getting this bad again or worse, for us to ever have a voice in our Government again.

Or to put it more simply,

I WANT A VOTING SYSTEM WHERE
A RECOUNT IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE!

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:43 PM
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2. Sounds good to me.
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 07:43 PM by Mythsaje
Needs to go on the agenda.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:50 PM
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3. We did not win races by large margins. We need to be careful
about what we do. And I was on the impeachment band wagon, even have a get rid of bushitler license plate, but am second thinking it. I'm not saying we need to be sucking ass to any repiglicans, but I think we need to look to 2008 and impeachment could light fires that we shouldn't waste time putting out. I think we need to keep the people in mind more than getting that mother fucker, besides two years of us is going to punish that fucker to no end. Heh heh heh. We need to think about ending this damn war, getting universal health care and to do that we simply repeal the tax cut to the rich fucks. We need to immensely improve education so the future will hold energy independence, that means dumping a load of money into education where it benefits the most possible for the greater good. We need to investigate and expose what has happened to America during the years we had no voice for the next election. Look to 2008 and keep it simple stupid! Show the people what democratic leadership can do for them. We can do that if we stop and think.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:09 PM
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4. That's what I'm thinking...
Slow and steady wins the race. Dig and dig some more. Get the Repugs to turn on each other. Feed the frenzy and let them self-destruct, using their personal ambition to dismember party loyalty. Go low profile rather than high profile and let the Chimperor and Darth Cheney stew in their own juices, wondering when the hammer's going to fall.

If we get enough evidence and show it to the people, it will be the electorate that demands impeachment. If it takes too long, we can always indict them after they're out of office.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:43 PM
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7. Yes. I haven't I am not firm on this thinking, but I am leaning to
better for us if he stays. I never thought I would ever say that. But I'm saying it, so that's an indication that it's what I'm thinking. LOL
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:12 PM
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5. Pelosi on the news tonight, we are going to investigate the war, Katrina, etc etc etc
Time to investigate and have so much come out, guess what will happen. The current Republican party goes down.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:15 PM
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6. She's on the right track...
This goes a hell of a lot farther than the President and his administration.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:44 PM
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8. Still not going to refer to that thing in the W.H. as the pr.......
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