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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:04 AM
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Hatred (of Gays) Unites Jerusalem's Feuding Faiths

Analysis: A showdown over a gay pride march reveals the rising tension between religion and secularism in the Jewish State

In a Holy City fissured by faith, finding a consensus on anything among Jewish, Christian and Muslim clerics is a near-miraculous occurrence. Yet Jerusalem's rabbis, priests and imams have united, however briefly, to stop the city's Gay Pride parade.

For some of their followers, the issue is worth spilling blood over: An unknown extremist Jewish group pasted up signs announcing a $500 "reward" for every gay man or woman killed during the parade, which is scheduled for Nov. 10. Several ultra-orthodox rabbis have vowed to mobilize more than 100,000 protesters to shut down Jerusalem on the day of the parade, and police warn that some groups plan to pelt the marchers with apples jagged with razor blades.

Meanwhile, in a rare display of solidarity with Jewish extremists, an influential Islamic cleric is urging Muslims to stage a simultaneous protest inside the old walled city to draw away Israeli police who would otherwise be shielding the gay parade from harm. "Not only should these homosexuals be banned from holding their parade," says one Muslim cleric, Sheikh Ibrahim Hassan, who preaches at a mosque near Damascus Gate, "but they should be punished and sent to an isolated place." Hatred, it seems, can be a bridge to inter-faith harmony.....

More:
http://richarddawkins.net/article,295,Hatred-of-Gays-Unites-Jerusalems-Feuding-Faiths,TIM-MCGIRK--TIME

Or

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1554629,00.html

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:08 AM
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1. That's wonderful!
A little sarcasm to end my day.

Just for the record. We think they ALL suck.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:12 AM
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3. Which "they" are you referring to? nt
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:29 PM
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13. The religious extremists who find THIS as common ground...n/t
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:12 AM
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2. I really can't understand how so many people in this world can hate gay people.
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 06:13 AM by SmileyBoy
I just can't understand the hatred from not just Americans, but people all over the world. I have never felt threatened by a gay person or any group of gay people in my life. People being gay to me is no different than another group of people having brown hair or green eyes. I just cannot fathom the hatred in this world towards gay people. I just can't understand how billions of people in this world can harbor such irrational hatred towards a group of people. Is it a percieved threat on the masculinity of billions of men?? Is that it?? Can someone explain this to me??
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:27 AM
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6. It comes to this....
...If you took away their Ideology, their religion, this type of hatered would not exist in the world and this applies to ALL religions. These acient theologies, with their dated and bunk rhetoric is dated and the canons need burned. They tragic part is, until those societies are moderninzed they will continue to hang on to their bunk faiths. Thats whats happening in Isael. the most modern of cities in the area is Tel Aviv, that tiny bit of securlarism has now spread. It will continue to do so and I will not doubt that Israel will have its own version of Stone Wall.

The relgious poison that pollutes their minds causes them to act in such hateful fashion. Say stated in the article, to bring those three religions together took hatered. Each of their distain for the Gay citizens as brought them to a head, that in its self, is pathetic.

Those "faiths" are suppost to be peaceful and all any of them do is cause the region, the world for that matter, distress.

There is no compromise when it comes to dealing with those fundmentalist ideologies. That also goes for Fundamental Christianity that we have to contend with domesticly, religions deserve no special treatment and there removal from society would only be a benefit for all of mankind.
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:37 AM
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10. i agree that religious extremism is bad
but christianity is fatally flawed in respect to the idea that hatred is at the core of it's value system. Other religions though do not necessarily place hatred or belittlement for others as part of their value system. Buddhism for example and also hinduism are non-violent usually non-hateful religions.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:13 AM
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4. Let's send the fuckers to Wyoming with the other idiots and wall it off.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:22 AM
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5. wyoming is too beautiful.
i think chernobyl would do the trick.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:32 AM
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8. Agreed. I just didn't want to have to herd up 2 groups of effin idiots.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:34 AM
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9. lol -- ah what a wonderful image that is!
git along little dawgies!
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:28 AM
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7. Give'em Siberia...
That about as close to hell as they will get.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:39 AM
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11. I love how religious extremism brings people together.
First Bush and Osama, now this.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 07:33 AM
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12. Hatred of gay people unites some religions in U.S, too; Robertson's,
Falwell's, Dobson's, Phelps', even much of the republican party.
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