Did a Duer plagiarize from Michael Moore?

of course not, but in light of the charges against Moore re: the manifesto, you should all take a look at the video posted in this link. WATCH the LAST FEW MINUTES. It's from 2004. And I assume it's legit.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2733514&mesg_id=2733962

can you paraphrase?

it's a verbal version of the written pledge. Two years ago.

However, I think the accusation that was put out there could cause a ripple especially now that the RW hacks have picked it up and are accusing MM of plagiarizing.
If it gets out of hand, he will have to defend himself.
I hope an apology is sent post haste in this situation.

as you know from the video. I also do not think it is plagiarism either way. This is a common formula, and once you employ the formula, the "issues" just drop into the template.

I guess it only goes to show that ego knows no political boundary...:eyes:

Smooth move

she's the paid pro and failed to do her homework.

People should consider all the facts before making accusations.

and I'm betting that is what happened here.

Mike deserves an apology.

I was just bringing attention to his/her badly named post in earlier threads.

but I wouldn't have opened those threads again if I hadn't seen your post.

I thank the both of you :)

Watching everyone fall all over themselves to indict, try and convict MM was making me ill, and of course now that they can see that he's been saying it for years NO ONE will accuse Witch of plagiarism. (Please note I do not think she is guilty of anything.)

As I said in another thread about this, who needs conservatives when we are all too ready to believe "guilty until proven innocent" - the basis behind Guantanamo, etc.

Can't check it out right now but if what you say is true, then I hope that the right people see it so that there won't be an issue anymore.

speech from the link on another thread. It was the "2004" that made me curious not the "bitches". Which I still don't understand?

I was really wondering about this and am so glad Michael has been vindicated..I really couldn't see how he would be "plagerizing" someone.

If your intentions are so pure, why don't you just let this die away? I don't want to talk about it any more, but I'll be damned if I let you all start something up talking about me when I've already said this is the end of it.

But it seems to me you should have thought about that before you posted your "comparison" in public and asked DU'ers what to do. At the bare minimum you implied plagiarism, if not outright accuse him of it. That's a thing you should never do lightly.

I hope if such a thing ever happens again you make absolutely certain you know what you are doing before you go public with it.

:shrug:

You said:

"No, it's not fazing me so much... I'm just... oh, I don't know... kind of stunned that someone that famous would let this get done under his name...

and kinda flattered that it was my work that got stolen, quite frankly."

And in another post, this: " I've been plagiarized on the Net before.

Last time, it was a 60-page story that took me a year to write.

This time, it was something that took me five minutes."

I can see why you were upset about it but when people started pointing out that MM has been saying this for years, you switched to I have better things to do/I don't want to talk about it/Everyone stop talking about it mode rather than just come out and say you might have been wrong. I DON'T think YOU stole from him either, I think it was just two people with similar thoughts. I do think it's unfortunate this got blown so out of proportion before the facts were in (and I'm not blaming that on you).

I'll shut up about it now.

I hereby retract every allegation I have made accusing anyone of stealing or plagiarizing my stuff. Can I go home now, please, teacher?

:eyes:

It's not your fault people talked about it so much, but you kept saying he stole it TWO DAYS after people posted links to the video showing that he said it first.

The whole thing is ridiculous.