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Someone started a thread on Wesley Clark and it was so long that I started a new one. Someone asked a good question. Someone on the other thread asked how are we are going to know if we won in Iraq. To me (a soldier currently in Iraq) a win means:
1) Saddam is brought to justice and his death penalty sentence is carried out. 2) We leave in a slow methodical method over the next year, while continuing to train soldiers. 3) Once we leave, the violence does not escalate into a full blown civil war. 4) We get Iraq's neighbors involved in helping bring the two sides to the table and make a peace agreement. 5) We need to allow each state within Iraq to establish a govenor and a state legislation (like we have) that way the people can control some things at a more local level.
If Iran and Syria want to claim that they were the ones that talked to the two sides (sunnis and shias) and that they were the ones that kept them from going into a full-blown civil war, that's fine with me. As long as the violence comes to an end, that's what I want. That is what victory means to me.
James jpwhite@okstatealumni.org
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