Those Two Little Bush Brats Should Fucking Behave Themselves

This crap they're pulling in Argentina must really be something if we're actually hearing about it over here. And don't give me any of that "Oh leave the kids alone!" crap either. They're 25 years old and should take some responsibility for their actions. Great reflections on their parents those two. Spoiled, priveleged, entitled, self-indulgent, shallow brats. They're 25 years old with absolutely no sense of responsibility or decorum fitting of someone in their situation, and they've had more opportunity than any other person on this planet so they get no slack from me whatsoever. Fuck 'em. It's pathetic and disgraceful. Kids their age are dying by the dozens/hundreds in Iraq because of their asshole father, we PAY for their secret service detail and they go around the globe partying like a couple of Paris Hilton's. It's shameful.

I think since they are the daughters of the president they should show more maturity. You are correct our military their age and even younger are fighting and dying in a country where their father started a war.

The least they could do is behave themselves when they travel. But bush shows his distain for this country what should we expect from his offspring.

Karenna and Kristin.

Cate and Emma Claire.

when Gore lost was losing the visibility of Gore's very pretty daughters. He still speaks longingly of watching the Gores play touch football in the days following the election. He has his memories.

The apples don't fall far from that diseased tree.

with them in Argentina.

It would probably be a lot more fun than reading your post or replying to it.

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Why reply at all? sheesh

... people to consider other perspectives? Yes, the DU community is truly fortunate to have folks willing to offer their best, in-depth, and value-based perspectives on issues of general interest. Civil and polite discourse - that's what it's all about. It just warms the cockles of my heart that a community of diverse people united in their core respect for demos (the people) demonstrate that respect so consistently through mature and intelligent reasoning. Yep. It's been a shining time on DU.
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I knew there was a reason I keep coming back here.

You kill me TN :rofl: :D

We sure have been fighting a lot.

I've been avoiding the place. It's getting easier and easier.

:shrug:

Now that the GOP is content in dirtying up us form now until we actually take control (with the full strength help of the MSM) our leaders realize a couple of things. Yes we won, although the senate is now in doubt. It now becomes our responsibility to fix the last 6 years of mayhem and disaster, while dealing with a barely sentient, disengaged and deeply disturbed president.

So, when we read about the twins embarrassing themselves in South America, we should take any amusement, wry, sarcastic even sad, in stride. We see before us the kind of behavior that our president cherished and probably still exhibits in private. Immature, clueless, and all too connected and powerful for our country's good.

"We must be the change we wish to see in the world."

It's one of the more seminal articulations of Kant's Categorical Imperative: "Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it would become a universal law."

Paul Wellstone found a way to say the same thing in raising his own children: "Never separate the lives you live from the words you speak."

For many DUers, a seminal philosophy regarding both Iraq and DU itself can be summed up nicely: "We sure have been fighting a lot. I've been avoiding the place." That's it in a nutshell - left and right joining hands in a unified age-old personal philosophy: "Let George do it."

Even in this thread, we see the principled defense of two of our nation's citizen ambassadors as they walk the talk of their generation and family values: "Fuck those people dying! People die all the time. Get over it! It's time to run naked and paaaarty!"


It's heart-warming. It's enlightening for some DUers to be called 'an old fart' and 'a geezer' and 'mendacious' and 'arrogant' and 'condescending' by so many other DUers merely because one advocates the idea that a nation share the burdens of the results of its own self-governance. It just brings a real warmth ... really.

And we haven't even begun fighting over 08 candidates.

A geezer? Gees. I always thought of you as a young whippersnapper. :)

I don't know about the vegetarians like myself. ;)

here. It's all part of the RW plan.

Otherwise, who cares what they do? Think about it -- if they were thoughtful, well-mannered, and profound, they would really disgrace the family.

--IMM

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What a good citizen!:eyes:

You don't have much taste in friends.

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Nobody is stopping you.

The way the world is going, livin' it up is the only way to live.

"Society" is beyond the point of repair anyway. :(

Not that I'm a catatstrophizing defeatist, there's always a way. Will people choose to make the way work? :think:

oppress the poor, exploit the weak, and commit atrocities against other human.

The bush twins are pretty far down on my list of things to be upset about.

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Yeah...its all that Beetwasher...what an asshole! Now thats something worthy of outrage....


I also save all my outrage for DUers who get outraged at stuff I feel they shouldn't be outraged over :eyes:

The Bush twins-they are pretty far down compared to other DUers I can bitch and whine about....

Don't all Bush supporters?

to distract us from the new 'phase'. Yes, I'm that cynical.

reconnaissance work for their new digs. :rofl:

Show's the difference between people who worked for what they have vs people who are given everything and bailed out whenever they screw up. What kind of ethics could you learn if your father was GWB.

Paris & Nicole decide they're all done with it, aren't they?

but I'd also hold off until I had seen some reliable first-hand confirmation. If there's any out there, I've missed it.

pnorman

The embassy would ask them to leave if that's all it was. (Although the embassy is "denying" that now. :eyes: )

they are down there unprotected by secret service or other security.

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at how well-behaved they might sometimes be.

Every time I see a Hilton hotel, I think of her. Needless to say, it's another hotel for me. It's spiteful but I just don't want to give that lady any more money.

However, that is nearly impossible, given their parentage (and grandparentage). Another generation of slacker Bushes. Sheesh, that's all we need. Wish the lot of them would just go away (Bush to the Hague, of course).

extensive Bush crime family ties.

Funny how those investments back in the 30s and early early 40s still just keep on paying off. :eyes:

Well, good is maybe not the correct term for GranPappy Prescot and Great-GranPappy Samuel. Amazing we continue to deal with these evil men and their spawn. :evilfrown: :mad:

the gloves came of when those two brats campaigned for their incompetent father - and you can bet they know of his incompetence far more than we do - and if that damn war is so noble, why are they not serving? That whole family can go to hell.

should have volunteered like so many other people have to fight in them.

They're too rich. :sarcasm:

I dated a Viet Nam combat veteran who had volunteered as a rebellion thing, just to drive his extremely rich family nuts - it worked!!! :o

It's a kid's job to drive their parents nutso!

I asked him, surely he was pegged as a rich kid in basic training and he said HELL YES - he got beat down pretty good - but a big beefy southern guy looked out for him after said rich kid insisted he had what it took and would not back down - yes INDEED!

the world or some other crap.

no pass for them. they actively campaigned for him.

Just make sure that all their expenses, and all the expenses of the secret service detail are
promptly put up on the web, along with photocopies of all the reciepts. The public has a
right to know where its money is being spent.

Are we paying their bar bills?

I'd like to see all the expenses of the last 6 years on the web, every laundry
receipt from bagdhad, every flight coupon and air mile. The democratic party
should put all of the expenses on the web so that the government answers to
its citizens.

It is done in other countrys, they have no excuse unless they're stealing from the public:
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/msp/MSPAllowances/searchGuidance.htm

No responsibility, no jobs. Thoroughly disgraceful.

well, you know the rest.

;)

But what did we really expect from them? They take after Daddy.

The rich really aren't like you and me, they grow up very slowly if at all.

Has just as little respect for and understating of the Office of the President of the United States as the current occupant.

I have zero respect for the man who is currently President. I have great respect for the office that he holds and an appreciation of how that office effects us. Footing the bill to protect the first family is not a waste of money. If the first daughters are kidnapped it compromises the office of the presidency because the President will have to choose between what is in the best interest of his family and what is in the best interest of the country.

The twins didn't say "Hey daddy, why don't you run for President so that we can have taxpayer funded armed guards follow us around everywhere." The fact that they have to be protected and the fact that we have to pay for it is an unfortunate reality of the society that we live in.

the twins must be protected, as hippo tron points out, it would not do to have some terrorist or narco lord kidnapping a member of the president's family

i read an article, shortly after 43 said he would run for president, that said the twins had begged him not to run because of the harm it would do to their privacy and the need to always have security around just as they were entering college, they didn't ask for this, what young girl just looking for a good time would ask for their dad to be president?

do people ever stop and think how it must interfere with the spontaneity of your sex life to have to always maneuver around a bunch of armed guards?

i don't blame them for trying to have a life while they are still young and argentina is certainly a country where the dollar can go far, sure, the running nekkid in the halls is pretty tacky but i bet we all did some tacky things when we were young and crazy

and we had to curtail our fun because of who he was - most of our friends were his students. We stayed out of trouble out of respect for our father. And we survived.

Now if a couple of middle class kids who had a dad who wasn't all that important can stay out of trouble, then the daughters of the president can. They are adults and their father has been in public service for most of their life. Their grandfather was president when they were small. They should know the drill by now.

I often think of Chelsea Clinton who is approximately the same age. She grew up in the governor's mansion and then moved to the White House as a teenager. And she is gainfully employed today and manages to stay off the gossip pages. Why do we expect less of the bush twins?

Sorry but they get no free ride from me. I deeply resent that they play like a couple of spoiled brats who are old enough to know better. And I can't wait for the day when this whole family is no longer wasting the taxpayers' money.

all. But they are AMERICA when they go some place and we get tarred and feathered by the stupid shit they do. They are WAY too damned old to do this kind of crap. THey also need to work. Day in, day out. Work like the rest of us. They are a disgrace to their age group, most of whom don't have the luxury to run around and be sluts. I don't know anyone their age in my area that is not working, even a bunch of kids that have drug problems. They are indefensible in my opinion. The idiots.

on edit: "giggle" not "diggle"

Not me. The post was about their behavior and galavanting and it happens to also be done on OUR dime. They are representing this country whether they like it or not and we ARE footing the bill for at least SOME of their galavanting and partying. I never said they SHOULDN'T be protected.

You have no respect for the job the SS does. You think it's easy protecting those two spoiled little pieces of shit who do EVERYTHING to make their job harder??

I'm not aware of the details of the trip so I'm not sure if they are supposedly there in some official capacity or if it is purely vacation. If they are there in official capacity then they shouldn't be partying on our dime. However if they are there on vacation and the only expenses we are paying for are security related I'm okay with that.

According to press reports. And even if it wasn't, my point still holds.

Too bad for them, they ARE using gov't resources to party their brains out. And like it or not, their galavanting and partying makes them harder to protect and a greater security risk. You think it's easy protecting those spoiled little shits doing everythign to make the SS's job HARDER and doing it on OUR dime?

It makes me sooo proud.

W/ Argentinian officials, sitting there, cracking and twirling their gum, "Like, oh mygod, can we get this over with like quickly? I'm supposed to party w/ those hot soccer players later."

:shrug:

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character forming

What the Bush daughters are doing in Argentina is no more our business that President Clinton's sex life was the Republicans; they are private citizens and whinging about them like this just because of who their father is is something we should be above.

Go and find something that is a) important and/or b) clearly not none of your business whatsoever to get angry about. There are plenty out there.

As many have pointed out, they are adults, they campaigned for their father, and they appear to be having quite the high time since he stole the 2004 election. It's offensive enough that they aren't in Iraq but they don't even have jobs! So while the rest of us slave at jobs and bring home paychecks that barely keep us afloat, these two little nitwits get to party with the taxpayer funded secret service along to protect them.

Remember last year when we Jenna was supposedly teaching those poor little children at that charter school in DC? Did she get fired or was working just too much for her poor widdow self?

I will NEVER forget Ms. Picture of Maturity sticking her tongue out at reporters during the campaign.

These girls make me ill. When I think of how Rush was unmercifully cruel to Chelsea Clinton - who was only a young teenager at the time - while the MSM gives these 2 little bitches a free ride, I just want to scream.

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I can comment about whatever the fuck I want and it IS our business when the fucking US embassy starts getting involved asking them to leave a country before they start an international incident. It sure as damn hell is everyone's business in this country. Would you say the same thing if they got kidnapped? Give me a fucking break. It sure as hell IS my business.

:applause:

Apparently he's a fan of the twins and/or the doofus father.

Hint: you don't even need advanced search. You can do a search by author using the plain search form.

:wtf: do people think we don't pay attention? Transparent as glass.

same people... I was hoping to see them all post here and they did. This is fun!

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Doesn't make the comments any less petty.

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Odd, that.

And the MSM would surely cover it if she did the slightest silly thing in public.

Your insinuation of hypocrisy is risibile in the extreme.

FWIW, I don't think what Chelsea Clinton does is any business of ours, or, crucially, any business of right-wingers, either.

:shrug:

with paying for their security detail while on a whimsical beer bash in Argentina?

As a taxpayer, I wouldn't have objections to doing so for e.g. Euan Blair.

The alternatives are a) not providing the president's family with security, which means hostage situations every few months, or b) turning the president's family into prisoners, which is clearly a gross violation of their rights (and the fact that you don't like their father, or that they're rich and privileged, does *not* justify that; a principle is only a principle rather than a prejudice if you apply it consistently).

Although it's grossly unpalatable to have to accept the parallel, it is in fact an even more clear-cut example of the same principle by which the state provides benefits to the disabled.

what course of action do we have given that we can't stop it? I don't expect them to be prisoners but they can conduct themselves with some dignity and decorum when they are on our dime.

You *have* a constitutionally-protected right to be outraged about whatsoever you please.

You don't have any course of action you can take, nor should you. These are private citizens, and what they do is none of your business.

Given that they don't have the option of doing anything *not* "on your dime", the fact that they are "on" it doesn't place any obligation on them.

Nobody suggested that the president's family NOT get SS protection or that they become prisoners. No one, anywhere on this thread so that is a load of crap that you made up.

How about option C: They get SS protection AND behave responsibly as befits someone in their position, as pretty much every other child of a President has done so up until this point?

Someone in THEIR position SHOULD be expected to behave accordingly and properly and responsibly as befits that position. I don't give a shit if they had no choice in the matter of their Dad becoming Pres. It may have been an excuse at one point, but they are now 25 and should be fully functioning responsible adults who are aware of their uniques situation AND PRIVELEGE. And that PRIVELEGED position they enjoy comes WITH RESPONSIBILITY. If they cannot accept that responsibility then guess what? I would be ALL for NOT allowing them to travel internationally as their behavior makes them a much greater security risk. After all, their daddy has no problems whimsically restricting travel of OTHER US citizens deemed to be security risks.

Additionally, they were in fact at least partially on US business according to some press reports, but even if they weren't, we as taxpayers DO have a right to criticize their behavior when WE are footing at least part of the bill that ALLOWS them to have the opportunity AND PRIVELEGE to travel safely and party their empty heads off w/out fear under the protection of taxpayer funded security. They in turn have the responsibility to act in a manner that that does NOT increase the chances that they will cause an international incident or become a threat to Nat'l Security.

Is it our business if they are kidnapped and have to be rescued by US forces, or if daddy decides to attack another country he says was involved?

His profile states he's in Cambridge, England.

Whether they were going to school, doing human rights work in Africa, or partying Paraguay, they're entitled to protection.

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going to happen on their soil. The article stressed that there were no Secret Service agents to be found. The government of A. might fear that this crazy country of ours might do some state-sponsored stupidity to the twins in an effort to curry favor for Bush.

If it is too crazy to put on Sci-Fi, it just might be true.

From your post: "Great reflections on their parents those two. Spoiled, priveleged, entitled, self-indulgent, shallow brats. They're 25 years old with absolutely no sense of responsibility or decorum fitting of someone in their situation, and they've had more opportunity than any other person on this planet..."

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Apples don't fall far from the tree, do they?

:loveya:

No one should have to give up being 25 and having fun on vacation just because they happened to be born under someone who did a sucky and underhanded job of being president.

Is a major target that could spark an international incident. Too bad for them, but they are in a unique position w/ unique responsibilities and they should behave appropriately and when they don't it's perfectly acceptable to criticize them. The last thing we need is something to happen to one of them and then have Chimpy invade Argentina.

Would be the high point of irony if WW III was started over an assassinated Chimp twin. Probably two of the least productive members of the human race. A modern day Ferdinand and Sophie.

:) and snort.
:rofl:

:hide:

Drinking, drugging, whoring around.
Just like their daddy.
Not much difference there really.

:loveya: Best Post On The Thread!

Jeez, who freakin' cares.

All that rant and you haven't given me ONE GOOD REASON to give a shit.

Kids their age all over America, with or with out money and rich parents, are doing the same things.

25 ain't old.
I tried to stretch out my 20's into my thirties, because it was fun .. clubbing, being immature, being irresponsible.

I can't stand Bush/Cheney etc.

I see no reason to start bitching about two young women who mean nothing to my life.

Point out where I said I was angry at them because they're rich, young or a Bush relative. Obviously you have reading comprehension issues, because I make it quite clear what my issue is w/ them. It's not my fault if you can't comprehend it. You seem to be one one of the tiny minority here who doesn't get it.

It IS our business when the fucking US embassy starts getting involved asking them to leave a country before they start an international incident. It sure as damn hell is everyone's business in this country. Would you say the same thing if they got kidnapped? Give me a fucking break. They are not normal, everyday 25 year olds. They are potential Nat'l Security risks and too bad for them, but they should act accordingly and responsibly as befitting someone in their position.

"who freakin cares" post?

:eyes:

The "who freakin cares" chapter is so 2004. Nice to see you being vigilant as always friend! :hi:

being painted as spiteful and petty.

And this kind of vitriol only plays to the hands of the right.

:eyes:

So, you think it's a good thing that so many DU'ers are calling those girls "bitches" and "spoiled brats."

Seriously, who cares?
Why care?
What possible good comes from wasting more than an ounce of energy being angry at these two?

Put the anger where it belongs. On the Republicans who've led this country on a path of destruction. On the corporatists who are intent on wiping out the gains made by workers and human rights activists in the 20th century.

If and when the "twins" actively and effectively promote that agenda, then yeah, have at'em.

But for now, it's just a case of misplaced anger.

More so, it sounds like frustrated rage, seeing these words strung together the way they are.

I think it's stupid. And I think it hurts our cause.

But I guess some of you were just repeating the party line when you were upset that douchebags like Limbaugh and company were attacking Chelsea Clinton.

Between Limbaugh calling a 13 yr old Chelsea Clinton, who did absolutely nothing except exist, "The WH Dog" and my post criticizing these 25 year old women's behavior, then you are more ignorant than I could possibly imagine. Chelsea wasn't running around partying in foreign countries and being asked to leave by the US embassy. I'd say that behavior that leads to the US embassy asking you to leave a country deserves criticism. If you don't it's because you're ignorant.

Try to rationalize it all you want, you're attacking two people who aren't in public office, didn't run for public office, and don't have any clout.

You're attacking the children of politicians for acting like many 25-year-olds would act.

25-year-olds getting drunk and stupid and partying in hotels is not an issue over which I fret.

Did she actually DO anything worthy of being called a dog?

This is not jus some 25 year olds partying. These are the daughters of the President, whose behavior has led to them being ASKED TO LEAVE ARGENTINA BY THE US EMBASSY. They are doing this at least partially on MY tax dollars and their safety is a matter of Nat'l Security. They are fair game for criticism for their innapropriate behavior. Period.

What part of that escapes you? Good grief, your ignorance is astounding.

And there's no reason to care.

WHY SHOULD ANYONE CARE ABOUT THIS? IT MEANS NOTHING!

Why keep posting about it, jeenyus? :eyes:

Pathetic, really.

Stop saying stupid shit about it if you really don't care about it.

Why should anyone care? Because their stupidity and their behavior has real consequences. Because if anything happened to one of them because of their idiocy it could lead to an international incident w/ very real, dire consequences. Yeah, nothing to care about. Only if you're an idiot.

In case you haven't figured that out.

Yeah, sure you do, pal. :rofl:

I have a good place for you to put your "concern" about "our" behavior. Maybe the Bush twins can help you find it. :rofl:

Congrats,

Another one bites the dust! Cha Ching!

Teacher's coming! Quick! get your books out!!

:rofl:

And who cares?

I could care less what the Sean Hannitys of the world think.

I'm talking about every-day people I meet in my daily business. Friends. Family. Co-workers. People I talk to in my job.

If the original poster's rant was said aloud in a crowded room, people would avoid lower their heads, avoid-eye contact and leave the room and then go home and think, "boy, that guy has issues."

Answer me this: Why should anyone even try to muster anger at the Bush twins?

They may be spoiled brats. Their politics probably are loathesome.

But why is it an issue? Why should American's give a rats ass what two rich 25-year-old women are doing in an Argentinian hotel room?

The people I know would be appalled and embarrassed at their behavior as would any reasonable person. The US embassy asked them to leave the country, they don't do that unless you are a problem.

Maybe in your pathetic little world innapropriate behavior is the norm, but not mine. But then again, I haven't been in Junior High School for quite some time. Maybe when you grow up you'll understand.

is calling out 25-year-olds for their immaturity.

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Your entire contribution has been full of spite and insults.

Has been full of inane stupidity. Keep wasting time on something that you don't care about. That makes you a jeenyus! :rofl:

What a riot. For someone who doesn't care, you sure spend a lot of time on the subject. :eyes:

is the way we, on the left, behave.

Your behaviour, and many other in this thread, and in the thread about Santorum's crying kids, is disgusting.

:rofl:

Oh, you're a laugh riot!!!

Another "concerned" poster about our "behavior". :eyes:

Yes, we're so influential here at DU. Why, between this thread and the Santorum thread, I think we can kiss '08 goodbye! :rofl:

Holy crap are you transparent. Do you really think you're fooling anyone? Run along little boy, this playground isn't for you if you're so "concerned".

That was beautiful....

and they should be acting like the Predidents kids.... ooops, they are, at least this President.

urge for pretending to be responsible adults when they turn forty. They know they'll have to give up drinking and partying and screwing around. So, they want to enjoy themselves now while they can.

I don't give a crap, but I don't ever want to hear anyone make fun of Chelsea Clinton again. She is a goddess compared to these two mutts.

Afterall, Daddy doesn't stop his motorcade in respect to fallen police escorts ON A US MILITARY BASE because of SECURITY concerns.

Why can't the girls' security detail be as smart? The risk of kidnapping must be very high in that country, and they can't even protect a cell phone and purse.

Having to try to protect those two snotty, priveleged little shits who probably do everything possible to make the SS details jobs even harder than it already is.

Just sayin'.

mentioned how the twins had ditched their security detail, and this was prior to Daddy's becoming the most hated man on the planet. They're 25 now and they should have enough freakin' common sense not to make their security any more difficult, especially when they are out of the country.

I would also think that they would/could/should understand that eyes around the globe will be carefully watching them and try to avoid embarrassing themselves on the world stage, but I digress.

to pull over and help a person if their car was broken down on the side of the road--vaguely remember something like that...guess we have the real answer to that question for real now--and it sure as hell isn't chimp since he couldn't even stop to check on the injured escorts.

Being twenty-five which is 'young' is NO excuse. If I ever went to another country I'd mind myself and respect their culture.

there are still one or two boys in Argentina who haven't been laid yet

If the twins were males and were being promiscuous - (but not abusing anyone) would people say they were "Spoiled, privileged, entitled, self-indulgent, shallow brats" or would people be envious of their opportunities - perhaps there would be talk of the eligible bachelors - and the women who fawned over them ? Of course that reaction is what you would expect 30 years ago - but then maybe things haven't changed all that much.

Now - people don't assume that the Bush women need a man - but men aren't expected to want to marry them either.

So what is there to say? :shrug: And how do we expect people to act these days. As this thread suggests - some people have no expectations - some do.

Some people don't want to hear about expectations for the Bush twins because they would not want any such expectations for themselves.

At what age are men and women expected to act like "grown ups". Is it socially acceptable at any age to run around drunk and naked, etc? Is it mostly a question of public and private? As long as the door is closed and no cameras are on - no harm, no foul? Though these days - someone is bound to have a camera.

I expect high profile people to act with discretion in a public place. Society in general tends to expect people who have such roles to be highly intelligent and somewhat reserved. Not the lampshade on the head sorts of people. That is more how Chelsea was and Amy Carter (intelligent and reserved) - but that does not seem to be the personalities of the Bush twins. They seem to be products of the MTV generation as much as children of their parents. I think that they are a reflection of American society. If people don't like it - then take it up with everybody.

The way our society has gone the last couple of decades is more that women are free to act more like men have traditionally acted - without impunity and with encouragement - if anything. So do we as a society expect men and women to act with more discretion - or not? Would our society be better off with more pornography that shows men as objects for women - there for women's pleasure and little else (like most pornography is now - only in reverse)? Do we want to encourage everyone to be as shallow as possible - the TV/porn images of our selves?

Does what anyone thinks about what anyone else does matter?

And if it doesn't - then why do we have threads about people's behavior - this, Kramer, whatever? Isn't that an attempt to influence public opinion/society in general? Or is it just people being gossipy? Or is this just an attempt to one-up the Republicans for having a president who is not intelligent and reserved - but who is/was a master at partying/socializing?

The twins "opportunties" are being squandered just as surely as their father squandered his. Evidently the best schools are just there for the attending, not for preparing to become contributing members of society.

would they have to be employed? Why?

I know people who retired in their 30's. There is nothing that says people have to be employed. It seems that our society celebrates those who are not - or who have the "fun" jobs, anyway.

Sure it's nice if people are "contributing members of society"- but I think it's a hell of lot better for someone who does not need to work to do nothing than it is for someone who already has plenty of money to sit around "working" (exploiting others is more like it) - where "working" amounts to figuring out how to get other people to do all the dirty work - while the so-called worker golfs or some other nonsense.

The people who really are "contributing to society" are usually paid shit or less. Maybe the Bush twins have figured that out.

A 25-year-old should do whatever the fuck they want to, as long as they aren't fucking other people over.

I didn't have many luxuries as a 25-year-old. On the flipside, I also didn't have cameras following me around everywhere I went and a bunch of frustrated, raging nutcakes eager to criticize my behaviour.

Wrong wrong wrong. Not on my dime. Not when they're representing this country. Not when they're behavior has the potential to effect international politics and diplomacy. Not when they're behavior becomes a security issue. Not when their safety IS a National Security issue. Etc. etc. etc.

The fact that you don't get it that the "twins" are in a unique and PRIVELEGED position that comes w/ certain responsibilities, responsibilities that they shirk, repeatedly, speaks volumes about your level of understanding (or lack of it).

But you won't read this since you have me on ignore, but I wanted to call you out on this idiocy anyway. :rofl:

taken up residency in Air Force I flying hither and thither.

The middle class, who are the only true and great ones. Such was the resentment of "Individualism" during the Progressive Era as well.

Yeah, like that utopia really worked.

The least they can do while young men and women their age are getting their limbs blown off in Iraq courtesy of their father is to lay low on the international party scene and do something, anything, with their educations.

If you won an all expenses paid travel lottery, including home expenses while away, and could take your family on a tour of the world, would you go?

At least when they run for president and vice president in their 40s or 50s, probably as D's or libertarians, they will know there is a world out there other than Amerika.

enter a convent - just be mindful of their unique position and use it to effect some sort of good - be it at a job or for a charitable cause. The "girls gone wild" bit is getting a little old.

Given that their idiot in chief father still sees HIS drunken behavior at, what, 40, to be be a YOUTH problem, we will no doubt still be hearing about the twits, uh, twins shenanigans for another 15 to 20 years. Hopefully by then they will be doing their partying on their own dime and not ours.

Ya know, if chimp and pickles had a brain cell between them, they would be having their offspring be out doing holiday visits to injured troops/ children hospitals/food pantries, hell, ANYthing but running nekid around a hotel and having the US Embassy having to send out denial statements saying "we really haven't kicked them out of the country, honest.

I don't care if they run down halls naked or get fall-down drunk.

They didn't start the war. They don't have any power or influence within the administration. Save your blame for those who truly deserve it.

WTF does blame have to do w/ anything? Where did I blame them for anything? Another poster w/ no reading comprehension.

I guess you're not big on personal responsibility either, huh?

They sound like they'd be a lot of fun to hang out with.

:shrug:

I agree.

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service to this nation their filthy pig father thinks other peoples kids should fight for and serve..so get their little asses to Iraq or Afganistan ...pronto!!

no excuses..no denials for anything..get their mother fucking asses in uniform and to the filthy wars their father started!!

and send Jebbie's son as well..and get jebbies druggie daughters ass over there as well!!

i am fed up with this bullshit..can you tell??

get them over there nowwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!

fly

...I'm just not into celebrity Gossip anymore, and that goes double for these two.:shrug:

Has asked them to leave Argentina (although then came out and denied they did) because their behavior apparently has been causing quite a stir and was becoming a security concern. One of them listened and did leave early. The other one decided to keep partying and to ignore the request.

Oh wait, they're above that sort of thing.

I hope the Bush dynasty fizzles out someday soon. There isn't a decent human being in the entire clan.

fine way of representing America there, you useless trollops. At least they honestly represent their family.

:eyes:

I get sick of hearing how spoiled rich kids should act. They act how they act. Big effing deal. Don't care.

:rofl:

They are assholes and should be treated as such...

Thanks for saying it!

I'M an asshole. Please don't associate them w/ me.

Redstone

eom.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. :eyes:

Yeah. That's what I'M saying. :eyes:

And it's pretty stupid.

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Good one! :rofl:

Nahh, you're not stupid, you just act that way. :rofl:

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I don't do shitstains.

eeeeek! Go wash your beets.

How clever! Keep it up and you might actually convince people you've reached puberty.

That the best you can do? as I am getting bored with you and your bushitler twins.

How about infantile? Yes, that should do it.

Effective? Really? According to whom? Oh, this is gonna be good.

bushitler relative?

IOW, no one of any relevance whose opinion on the subject would actually matter. Got it! Thanks for playing!

a fucking opinion. Personal experience is priceless and doesn't need to be based on anyone's authority.

It's so much easier to just make up hairbrained nonsense about any subject whenever you feel like it. Why consult w/ experts who have studied the issues you just make up stuff about? It's just too damn hard!

issue, the experts on my side are of course discredited by the queen of shit. BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAA. :rofl:

Too bad I'm sure you can't even name one, but then again, why bother, it's just easier to make shit up!

You truly are clueless about the subject, aren't you? I suggest you post some more inane babble, that might help your case.

No, not all. Why, you're the epitome of class, wit and sophisticated conversation! :rofl:

I think "infantile" was too generous.

After studying shit, I have time to be generous. Maybe. I guess. I dunno. I'm not really sure what that means but it's fun watching you melt down and babble. :shrug:

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Behave or this thread will get locked. :spank: :-)

They probably didn't choose this responsibility (Katherine Harris did), but it is theirs none the less. They can't have normal lives, ever, and they certainly can't have them while their father is the President of the United States. They must, at all times, act with dignity, decorum, and as ambassadors of the United States.

Is that fair to them?

No.

But, in the immortal words of Joan Crawford, as related through Mommy Dearest, "Who ever said that life was fair?"

Some of our obligations are the results of our own actions, and sometimes they are thrust upon us. The mark of a person's character is what they then do with those obligations.

I'm laughing at the responses here but I said on another thread that the girls should party but at least show a little responsibility since they are "first daughters". They should try and be discreet as they can cause they know all these tabloids are out there. I wouldn't mind hanging out with them because they seem like fun girls. I like hanging out with fun people.