"There's complete bewilderment as to what to do,"

"Several officials who are in touch with commission members said that with violence appearing to spiral out of control in Iraq, the group has been flummoxed about finding a solution. "There's complete bewilderment as to what to do," one official said. "They're very frustrated. They can't come up with anything. For the last couple months, they've been thrashing around, calling people, trying to find ideas."

http://www.time.com/time/world/printout/0,8816,1563132,00.html

:puke: OMFG. There aren't words to describe the stupidity and sheer willful ignorance of this Administration, from top to bottom, Day 1 to the present.

I am so sad for my country. :cry:

Compared to our leadership, his looks stellular.

expectations. This study group has been built up so much in the press, this article may just be trying to bring expectations back to the realm of reality.

that bush's complicity is not lost in the ongoing story. Iraq is the way it is today because of george w. bush - period! His lies, his failed foreign policy, his incompetence. And don't forget the PNAC rats who want to jump ship now that their little plan has turned to total shit. And the right wing hate machine on faux and limbaugh and other morons with access to microphones. It is their fault and every death in the future is their fault because they are too fucking proud and too fucking ignorant to mount any sort of sound objections to bush failures. He's just dying to pass his garbage off to someone else.

"There is complete bewilderment"...Duhhhh...

I suspect that what the Baker group is actually doing is conducting focus groups to find out who would make the most effective scapegoat. Osama? Nancy Pelosi? Clinton?

SOMEBODY, other than ANYONE from bushco, NEEDS TO GET GOING AND START TALKING TO ALL THE NATIONS IN THE ME NOW, TODAY, THIS MINUTE, THIS SECOND!! Studying the GD problem will NOT provide ANSWERS; TALKING AND DIPLOMACY will certainly get things MOVING TOWARD A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM!!!

they had no way of knowing.

Gee, I have a couple of functioning memory cells that recall how not too long ago Republicans were absolutely demanding that the Democratic candidates spell out what they would do about Iraq.

Who "has no plan" now?

"stay the course" in a way to sell it to the American people. That is what they can't come up with...

what everyone joneses for) is through murder on a massive scale. Sunnis will not accept the loss of power; Shiites want revenge and to make Sunnis into second-class citizens; the Kurds just want the other two to go the fuck away. This is a permanent situation, there is no "light at the end" of this tunnel - there is no "end" to this tunnel. When you have millions of people who want to kill each other, there is nothing that can be done short of massive suppression and even if we had the will to do that, we don't have the troops. Our options seem to be narrowed down to three: 1) support the Sunni and oppress the Shiites; 2) support the Shiites and kill off the Sunnis; 3) get the hell out and leave it to the Iraqis to deal with. I vote for number three. Sure we fucked it up, sure we are criminally liable, sure our murdering president must go to prison for his crimes, but so what? We are done. How many American soldiers do we have to have killed or maimed before George Bush's "debt" to the Iraqis is paid? I'm sorry, it may seem cold (be may in fact be cold), but it is time to cut our loses, admit defeat, and try and salvage some scrap of something out of this whole, bloody cluster-fuck. Just my opinion....

this fucking travesty continues.

The voters made it plain: GET THE HELL OUT. NOW.

to send $x billions to the 'elected' Iraqi government and keep non-military or UN 'administrators' in Baghdad to audit where the money goes. Step 3: Negotiate with Iran and Syria and Egypt and Lebanon and whoever else to put their pressure on the various secular groups that are killing one another. Step 4: If the Iraqi government still needs help in stopping the illegal militias, then ask the UN to provide assistance.

I was 5 when the war ended and I saw this shit coming a mile away. I definitely didn't support the war initially but once it was inevitable I conceded that removing Saddam would ultimately be good for Iraq and it would have if we had gotten the hell out right after the "fall of bagdhad". We should have pushed over that statue, left the people to find Saddam in his hidey hole and hightailed it. Any other strategic endeavor beyond that was doomed from the start.

I'm sorry these neocons can't figure out what to do now that they have totally destroyed Iraq but the longer we stay the worse it gets.

Get out now and try to fix it from the outside is the only way to go.

Of course the Baker neocons can't do that because they made sooo much money off of destroying the country. They and their Saudi pals continue to rake in the money, as long as we stay.

Iraq's economy has been shaped into a neocon wet dream and they don't want to give up the billions they are stealing from the Iraq people. They know if we pull out the people will try to take back their economy.

BushCo's™ answer will be attack Iran.