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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:06 PM
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I learned today the religious right is nothing but
A neocon made up religion, its their attempt to hijack religion, and they take advice from it (preemptive war) just like they hijacked the republican and to an extent the democratic party (DLC).
Check out Novak,Weigel,Neuhaus,baker.
I bet rove and cheney love it when any body attacks there so called christians or even there so called Republicans.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:08 PM
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1. Check out "The Power of Nightmares" to see how the neocons used the sheep
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:21 PM
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4. I will
heard about it but haven't watched it, At the heart of the story are two groups: the American neo-conservatives and the radical Islamics. both party's are radical extremist.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:22 PM
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5. Yes. It's VERY eye-opening in how they converged at about the same time.
And how the neocons have more than once in the past created artificial boogeymen out of thin air. Even pushing as the truth what the CIA told them was the CIA's own propaganda!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:36 PM
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6. Found a link with the video
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:58 PM
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14. I wonder if Goss goes to the cafeteria yet. n/t
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:11 PM
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2. As a lifelong devout Christian
I couldn't agree with you more.

However, I do want to point out that in my experience the political religious right is a fairly new thing. There are plenty of fundamentalists who are not the least political, nor are their denominations. But that mega-church, broadcasting, Christian academy bunch... I think they have been modeled and molded and used.

blech
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:13 PM
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3. I agree
It's divide and conquer, an old evil trick.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:41 PM
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7. I agree. Traditional Churches are being bullied to follow the talking
points. You used to be supposed to model your beliefs of the bible or Jesus' actions.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:48 PM
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8. Agree, now you're ready to read Yurica's 'The Despoiling of America'

The Despoiling of America


How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State

By Katherine Yurica



The First Prince of the Theocratic States of America

It happened quietly, with barely a mention in the media. Only the Washington Post dutifully reported it.<1> And only Kevin Phillips saw its significance in his new book, American Dynasty.<2> On December 24, 2001, Pat Robertson resigned his position as President of the Christian Coalition.

Behind the scenes religious conservatives were abuzz with excitement. They believed Robertson had stepped down to allow the ascendance of the President of the United States of America to take his rightful place as the head of the true American Holy Christian Church.

Robertson’s act was symbolic, but it carried a secret and solemn revelation to the faithful. It was the signal that the Bush administration was a government under God that was led by an anointed President who would be the first regent in a dynasty of regents awaiting the return of Jesus to earth. The President would now be the minister through whom God would execute His will in the nation. George W. Bush accepted his scepter and his sword with humility, grace and a sense of exultation.

As Antonin Scalia, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court explained a few months later, the Bible teaches and Christians believe “… that government …derives its moral authority from God. Government is the ‘minister of God’ with powers to ‘revenge,’ to ‘execute wrath,’ including even wrath by the sword…”<3>

George W. Bush began to wield the sword of God’s revenge with relish from the beginning of his administration, but most of us missed the sword play. I have taken the liberty to paraphrase an illustration from Leo Strauss, the father of the neo-conservative movement, which gives us a clue of how the hiding is done:

    “One ought not to say to those whom one wants to kill, ‘Give me your votes, because your votes will enable me to kill you and I want to kill you,’ but merely, ‘Give me your votes,’ for once you have the power of the votes in your hand, you can satisfy your desire.”<4>


<more>


http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:33 PM
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10. Thanks but it doesn't draw my interest
George is nothing but a brand name tool to spread fear and terror at the same time keeping greedy pockets fat with gold through power.
Fear is the weapon they have to convince the fearful. I will acknowledge there fear as a passing unpleasant thought at best.
I know what I am.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:38 PM
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12. This is a great piece, on a great website. Everyone should read it
(if you haven't already). It's scary stuff.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:09 PM
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15. I've been a subscriber to the Yurica Report for years...
:thumbsup:
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:51 PM
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16. Ok ,I'll go there
Just because you are my brother. Peace
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:03 PM
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17. Great! Pay close attention to the parts about Leo Strauss
Leo Strauss is the Father of the Neo-Conservatism movement and his followers, Straussians, forged the PNAC doctrine. Truth be told, the Neocons are leading the Fundies; they are muniplating them by using the following Strauss tenets:


First: Strauss believed that a leader had to perpetually deceive the citizens he ruled. (Can you say WMD?)

Secondly: Those who lead must understand there is no morality, there is only the right of the superior to rule the inferior.

Thirdly:  According to Drury, Religion “is the glue that holds society together.” It is a handle by which the ruler can manipulate the masses. Any religion will do. Strauss is indifferent to them all.

Fourthly: “Secular society…is the worst possible thing,” because it leads to individualism, liberalism, and relativism, all of which encourage dissent and rebellion. As Drury sums it up: “You want a crowd that you can manipulate like putty.”

Fifthly: “Strauss thinks that a political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat; and following Machiavelli, he maintains that if no external threat exists, then one has to be manufactured.”

Sixthly: “In Strauss’s view, the trouble with liberal society is that it dispenses with noble lies and pious frauds. It tries to found society on secular rational foundations.”
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:18 PM
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9. it's a political CULT
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:41 PM
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13.  A bunch of greedy folks with a mission, cult? I guess so.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:36 PM
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11. I want to see how much they love it when Ralph Reed is
calling for his mommy behind bars.
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