Petition asking Senator Clinton to not run for Pres. Please sign if you agree.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/NoHillaryClinton08

Democrats and independents asking Hillary Clinton NOT to run for President

We are Democrats and Democratic leaning independents who do NOT want Senator Hillary Clinton to run for President in 2008.

Some of us do not want a Democratic nominee who already has 45% of America committed to voting against her... http://www.pollingreport.com/2008.htm

some of us accept the fact that only two Senators have been elected President in the last century, and do not want another Democratic nominee from the Senate...

some of us think there are many reasons she will easily lose to virtually any Republican nominee...

some of us think she should continue her work in the Senate...

Some of us think she is too polarizing to lead America...

some of us think America shouldn't have 24+ years of Presidents from the Bush or Clinton family...

...but we all respectfully ask Senator Hillary Clinton to NOT seek the Presidency in 2008.

Thank you.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/NoHillaryClinton08

But isn't that what we have primary elections for? Why not let the voters decide? Frankly, I don't thing a petition will do a bit of good anyhow; if your ego is so enormous that you actually think you should be President, a few thousand signatures on an internet petition isn't going to change your mind.

and not a petition. I didn't see any link to a petition on the link you gave.

I find petitions asking people not to run as a rather undemocratic act. Sort of like term limits. Anyone and everyone who wishes to run ought to do so. That's why we have primaries. I probably won't vote for Hillary in the primary, but I hope she does run if she thinks she's the best candidate for the job.

Saved me from typing the exact same thing.

Vice President Cinton - maybe.

voicing a political opinion about someone's desirability as a candidate is a democratic act. I actually don't see a problem asking someone not to run provided you give them reasons why you don't think they should... AND provided you allow them to disagree and run anyway.

You are FREE vote who you want to vote for in the primaries.

That's the way it works.

That's the way it works.

It's hardly ridiculous at all.

they score FAR WORSE than her on the poll in your link.

I have serious questions about Sen. Clinton.

we say whom we will support.

is only going to give ammunition to the repukes to keep dividing the country. No way will I sign this.

Good chance of winning the primary.
0% chance of winning the general election.

Hillary didn't steal an election. Hillary isn't batshit crazy.

Could Hillary be our next George McGovern or Michael Dukakis? Maybe. I'd wager she'd take more states than they did, though.

You have to have been paying attention back in 2000 to dislike Katherine Harris. But you can be ignorant of damn near everything and still hate Hillary.

Beyond the ignorant Rush listeners, good liberals like myself strongly dislike her for a whole host of other reasons.

And she can't win. period.

Interesting. Is this a tacit admission that she would win?

to promote LESS voices in the debate. And I am not one who cares for what Hillary has to say.

It's just wrong to tell even those we disagree with that they shouldn't be heard as part of the actual debate.

She has every right to run for this office if she so chooses. Just as you have every right to vote for her or not vote for her. We are all entitled to our opinion. This is why they call this a democracy.

were responsible for the earth-shaking victory we experienced on Nov 7 and the reason is because we were activist. And, just as we were activist against the other party, we can also make strategic decisions with regard to who our candidate is for the Presidency.

Some Dems may not like the idea of Clinton running and they have every right to say so. As a member of the Democratic Party, Clinton should listen to the Democratic Party if it chooses not to support her. Perhaps some feel that Clinton can not win and therefore by asking her not to run, it gives Democrats a more viable candidate who can win. A petition is designed to gauge whether or not there is support for her to sit out this election.

Just as she has the right to run for president, so do Dems have the right to decide whether she should be the nominee. This is part of that process. Deal with it or perhaps this isn't the place for you.

Otherwise, welcome to DU.

I am entitled to my opinion as you are to yours! Don't tell me what to deal with. I will decide what to deal with and what not to. And don't tell me if DU is the place for me or not based on your assumption. That will be my decision! I didn't know that DU was a place where all Democrats have to agree. Reading all the postings I would say there are a number of things that are not agreed upon. This might come as a big shock to you but it was not just the Democrats that got the Democrats elected! This is a fact. If enough people feel that Hillary should not be elected than she won't be. If some Dems don't like the idea of Clinton running then don't vote for her in a primary. That is there right! They also have the right to say they don't agree with her running, just as I have the right to say she can if she chooses. Any viable candidate has a right to run. In my opinion, if any viable candidate chooses not to run just because Hillary does, then they don't believe in themselves. This is part of the process also. And as far as your welcoming me to DU, thanks alot for making a person feel welcome!

Though HRC is a good senator, I agree with the Harris analogy. Like Harris, I think HRC's odds in the primary, (because most primary voters are not as informed as du-ers) are very good. Her odds in the general election are very, very bad.

are NOT the same thing.

or does the DLC have some other reason for running in the primaries? I can never figure them out.

Winning the primaries gives one the nomination. Giving Hillary the nomination will cost us the election.

Comprende?

Too funny.

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not to run

:boring:

And I won't know for sure who I'll vote for until maybe the weekend before the election.

...Although I'm against Osama and Hillary running I absolutely detest online petitions because they don't work.

and to mention the clinton family in the same sentence with the bush family is just beyond the pale. what a load of horseshit.

Why not in FAVOR of a candidate?

Sorry, I won't sign a petition asking her not to run.

I won't vote for her in the primaries, and hope she isn't the nominee - I don't personally care for her - but it's not my place to ask her not to run if she wants to. I will vote for someone else in the primaries but she has the right to run if she wants to.

Meg

If she wants to run, she should run. If anyone wants to oppose her, they should support one of her many opponents in the primary process.

53% of the country says there is NO CHANCE they would vote for Al Gore.

55% of the country says there is NO CHANCE they would vote for John Kerry.

So where is your petition to stop the two of them from running, MrsT?

Why is your vitriol only reserved for Hillary Clinton who scores better than both Gore and Kerry?

she has as much right as anyone has to run. I do believe she's the rethugs choice for us, but I haven't seen anything the least bit presidential about Hillary - except, of course, for her husband. She's my senator, and I like her fine as a senator, and hope she remains there.

That being said, there's a process in this country, and many people disagree with my opinion of Hillary - we can all participate in the process, and hope that the best person wins. I don't think it's going to be Hillary, but if it is, I'll vote for her.

I've been waiting for something like this.

I mean, the argument is- why not just start right off with the candidate for president, and not waste time? That way we could get as much momentum behind OUR GUY.

Well, that would mean the primary would be meaningless. The primary is where we sort this out. Not some petition.

You are way too polorizing (and I'm not saying that's your fault...it's the media's... but that's another story). It's EXACTLY what the Republicans want. In fact, I believe they will actually encourage you to and present false polling that you could win. For the sake of this country, we MUST have a candidate that has a good chance of winning. I hope that you will do the right thing and put our country first.

A Hillary Clinton nomination would mean victory for the DLC which would subsequently mean a victory for the GOP, The Democrats need somebody who is more formidable and not going to cowtow to the Corporatists.


John

Name a Dem who can win who will run on an anti-corporate platform.

And I aint no Hillary fan.

to petition her not to run is for fear that she'll win.

Sorry, I want a Dem to win.

Do you have a candidate in mind who will NOT have 45% of the electorate vote against him or her?

why not do one asking McCain or some other Republicans not to run.

:crazy:

You know how powerful online petitions are!

THINK of all the things they've accomplished!

:silly:

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything in the thread re: the possibility of having Bill in to help shape (even from the background) policy again. Any thoughts? Not saying that Hillary couldn't/wouldn't make decisions, but infulence is influence.