Porn on Play Station?

There was a story just now on my local news about a 10 year old who got a new Play Station for Christmas and it had porn on it. His mom had bought the PS at WalMart. I couldn't find that story online but I did find this one about a woman who bought a used memory card with porn on it:


A Tulsa woman says she got more than she bargained for when she bought a used memory card for her husband's PlayStation Portable videogame.

The couple was surprised to find hardcore porn on the card.

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Besides the fact the PlayStation Portable is geared for kids, the problem is compounded by the fact it's so easy to transfer video files from a computer to the game device.

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And we found more than one website with porn movies that were already converted and ready for downloading.

The practice is apparently so common that the device has been nicknamed the PlayStation "Porn"able by some.

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The Yorks say the store employees were polite and apologized for the problem, but didn't seem to understand how to delete the files.

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http://www.kotv.com/main/home/storiesPrint.asp?id=92126&type=t

Isn't this her specialty?

to her campaign.

They bought a used product. The store should have cleaned it up better, but this is no more an indictment of 'videogames' than it would be an indictment of auto manufacturers if someone bought a used car and found an issue of Hustler in the glove compartment, although I understand certain people might consider that sort of event newsworthy, as well.

Is it easier to load porn on one model than on another?

The Playstation 2 does not have a memory stick that can have porn loaded onto it, the PSP does.

but it bothers me that porn can be added to ANY children's toy. Clearly there is a problem here.

Where did I say your a prude? I would just like it if you kept your facts straight about the product in question.

and someone added porn images to it - got that part too.

Thanks for the technical info.

It's like sticking a used memory stick into a digital camera and finding someone's home sex photos on it.

It's also a video player. They sell movies for it.

Do you object to that as well?

Lots of kids have their own computers. Used hard drives can be found at garage sales, etc....

This is a non-issue.

excellent riposte.

drive, a memory stick or any other computer media. It was used, the store should have formated it... how hard it his for you to understand? Oh I forgot it is the games that are evil, RIGHT? (It is NOT part of the game by the way)

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...to put depleted uranium through some Iraqi's face. It's so much more horrible for them to witness a female orgasm than their buddy's torso being ripped to pieces by shrapnel beside them. No child should view a breast before they realize that they will live worse off than their parents, possibly be drafted to kill or be killed in a war started on a lie, and receive no social security or veteran's benefits when they grow old. Yes, we must stop all sexuality from reaching all children, because it is so much more damaging to them than the realities we have created for them to face.

- a bit young to be sent to war, dontcha think?

If not in his family, then in his friend's. Civilian children younger than that are being killed in this war. Anyway, my point was that everyone freaks out that a kid might see someone fucking, but no one seems very concerned about him seeing consecutive years of blowing the shit out of people overseas. Most boys have seen some porn at ten. That isn't half as damaging as seeing someone's brain in the seat next to them, a situation we've created and that they are likely to live through.

The thought my 10yr old might see some sex does not in any way bother me. Why should it? Sex is a totally natural thing. We as a society are the ones who put the trauma aspect into it by demonizing, and stigmatizing it.

My kids have seen every animal on the farm copulate, i fail to see how seeing two humans do it would have a negative effect. Now granted i am not talking about simulated rapes, extreme bondage, etc. They can learn those things fun little things on their own later.

And you DO damage your children by exposing them to sexuality before they're ready for it. There's nothing positive about over-sexualizing children -- except, of course, that it tends to give them an appetitie for porn, and that helps that industry tremendously. It also gives an assist to all those industries that use sexuality and especially women's bodies to sell stuff. Helps make him a good little consumer, and a sexist to boot.

If all that's okay with you -- and it shouldn't be for any self-respecting person on the left -- then by all means expose your poor child to as much sexuality as you want to. You won't find him objecting -- he won't have any idea how or even that he should (not unlike a child fed little else but sugar and processed foods).

Just don't imagine that it's GOOD for him, or even neutral in the harm department.

Prove it, and someone probably has a good lawsuit.

I think adult materials are precisely that- for adults, and just like I don't appreciate those who constantly use 'protecting the children' as an excuse to tell consenting adults what they can or can't read, watch, or do with their own bodies in the privacy of their own homes, similarly I also believe that many things appropriate for adults to decide to take or leave alone- alcohol and other intoxicants, nicotine, smut, and the like- should be kept from kids until they're 18, 21, whatever.

But that said, this was clearly a case of someone buying a previously used product. The retailer screwed up, but when you're dealing with used merchandise, these things can happen.

The only reason it's damaging is simply because of the stigma we place upon it as a society. In tribal cultures you hardly ever see such prudishness. People will often have sexuals with children sleeping right next to them. Children often have simulated sex right out in the open. Not to mention running around mostly nude (climate depending). You don't see any trauma from this. Why? Because there is no stigma ingrained in their minds from birth that it's "Nasty".

The reason sex can be traumatizing to children in our culture is because it is so demonized. We are taught our reproductive organs and places are nasty, dirty, and/or evil.

And please keep you self righteous "self respecting" bullshit for yourself. I never said i exposed anyone to anything. We live on a farm so animals having sex is something thats gonna be seen. I'm just saying i personally would not freak out if my 10yr old saw some man on woman sex, on video, or a magazine or whatever.

So basically i am saying sex can be potentially damaging to a child yes, but we made it that way.

You might want to learn to actually read and comprehend what folks post without adding your own demons to justify overreaching to find whats not there.

Step back for a minute and you realize that our uniquely American brand of obsession with sex is deeply conflicted precisely because of the pack of medieval lies about sexuality we're expected to align ourselves with in the first place.

It's "hands off the sex" and so the forbidden is used as titillation to sell stuff to consumers. Making sex verboten is pretty much the same thing as preserving it for sole use as a weapon for marketers.

We're in a vicious circle with it.

But I wouldn't have wanted them to buy a video game with porn on it.

I can also understand some parents being concerned about this.

I just watched the report myself on Kctv5.com. This was NOT a game it must have been a returned PSP which means it was stored there by the PSP(the system not a game) previous owner.

I think that is what I said in my opening post. "There was a story just now on my local news about a 10 year old who got a new Play Station for Christmas and it had porn on it."

"But I wouldn't have wanted them to buy a video game with porn on it"

You need to make sure you say SYSTEM here not just a game its the system and that is an important difference. Also please stop calling it just a Playstation..

There are Playstation 2's and Play Station Portables(PSP) two completely different systems with different capabilities a Playstation 2 does not contain a memory stick as the PSP does.

Although I don't understand why it makes any difference. This kid got a toy for Christmas that had porn on it. Isn't that the issue?

happened if they bought him a used digital camera.

If you can also erase the memory on this game system, then shouldn't the store have done that?

I think you'll find we are in 100% agreement there. The store obviously fucked up, and as far as I'm concerned, someone may have a lawsuit to boot.

Although my son just suggested that perhaps the kid's dad downloaded the porn. Don't know why he thinks that, but he went pretty crazy when he saw this story on the news earlier.

I bought a "new" digital camera last year. When i got it home and got her powered up i found my internal memory was full of pictures of a nice hispanic family.

stores let you try them out and bring them back. My son tried out three or four cameras before he settled on and bought the one he wanted. But, on a returned camera, the store SHOULD check the card to make sure it is clean before re-selling the camera.

why are you having such a hard time comprehending this? If you were here I could even show you the equipment in question. I OWN a PSP, and I realize you don't... but please continue to sermonize gaming... it must be on a PSP, bad... same kind of memory stick you use on your VAIO computer by the way, or most SONY vidcams

We wouldn't want to limit the adults' rights, now would we? If that means a 10 year old gets a toy for Christmas that has porn on it, then so be it. :sarcasm:

Man am I ever glad my kids are grown.

maybe you can explain HOW this sort of thing could be prevented--- not by the due dilligence on the part of the retailer whose responsibility it is to clean up items put out for resale... but, you know, by "limiting the adults' rights".

That what I was referring to.

And I agree the retailer is most likely responsible here. But I do take protecting kids rather seriously.

The whole concept of certain things being for consenting adults is predicated upon the idea that, conversely, some things aren't for kids. I'm not in favor of 10 yr. olds being exposed to porn (and when they're a couple years older, they should have to dig through the sunday paper for the Sears bra & underwear ads to masturbate to...just like I did, dammit!) but I also don't think it's appropriate to sanitize the whole world to the level of, say, Barney and Boohbah just because there happen to be infants and toddlers in it. As Mark Twain said, "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak, because a baby can't chew it".

Now, the retailer screwed up by not erasing that memory stick, and I'm willing to bet they won't make THAT mistake again.. but there are perfectly good, non-porn reasons to have a functionality in a playstation to allow it to display pictures and short movies. Lots of people use those gadgets to look at digital pictures of their own on the TV.

Would you know where it's from?

What's being said is that you hold the right entity responsible.

It wasn't PORN in a game, it was PORN stored on a used memory card.

The blame doesn't lay with SONY, or with game companies. It lays with the company that accepted and resold used storage media without erasing the contents.

I swear you can just add : "porn" and "child/children" to any issue and get 60% of the people to turn off thier brain function.

That's the point I was making, the one you choose not to understand. Porn is far less damaging than violence.

and what kind of child psychology degree do you have to state that a 10 yr old boy watching porn, is less effected than watching a war movie.

i am so tired of people reasoning giving adult world to our children and saying, children got to suck it up, as we all admit it is adult world. makes not a single bit of sense to me. i am telling you, lets just make our 8 year old girls whores, and boys who want the whores and be done with raising our children with any self respect or respect for fellow human beings.

Despite what you want to believe, I'm not saying 10 year old children should view porn. I'm saying that I think it's obnoxious and stupid how everyone gets their panties in a wad about kids seeing sex and nudity, but say nothing about the violence they're exposed to daily.

You want to make 8 year old girls whores? You're sick.

You want to make 8 year old girls whores? You're sick.

you say..... you arent saying children should view porn and then say why panties are in a wad. because. children should not be seeing porn. that is why the panties are in a wad.

i am not arguing violence. i am arguing a ten yr old viewing porn.

i cant simplify it for you any more than that

Irritating when someone doesn't understand what you wrote, isn't it?

i am also pretty sure it is ignored cause it doesnt fit agenda

We haven't been able to verify the story, have we? If Sony is shipping out brand new playstations with porn on them, that is something else... but aside from videogames=porn histrionics, what, precisely, is anyone supposed to DO about these alleged incidents, aside from blame the individual retailers who obviously fucked up?

then I would think this story had an impact.

You should also read the label on the disc of the DVD you rent from the video store, before popping it into the machine with your wide-eyed tots sitting in front of the screen. I used to work for a chain of video stores-- believe me, even with a crack staff of people who are really on the ball, screw ups happen.

game grand theft auto san andreas was that the big whoop de doo was over the "hot coffee" sex scene in it. I've seen the game in action (my husband has it) and what is disturbing is the VIOLENCE. Now, he's a big boy and he can play a violent game. That game wasn't intended to be in the hands of kids, so why is there a problem with a sex scene??

When I was in Holland, it took me a little while to get used to all the breasts on TV but once I did, I really had to wonder why American society was so accepting of violence and outraged by the naked human body and sex.

They're not PC compatible and the PS2 does not have recording capability in any way.

Unless someone has a feasible explanation I just don't buy it.

Rp

My 19 yr old just agreed with you..technically impossible.
The story stinks!

and add features to GTA?

I've watched one where you have to pay for the prostitute and then you can do what you pay for. I thought it was funny (pathetic but funny), and I have a warped sense of humor, (dont' mind me) and my kid is over 18.

Two different products.

...no. Speaking as someone who has seen MANY movies cross the P2P networks formatted and "ready to go" for the PSP, it's not at all technically impossible. Tell your 19yr old he's a noob.

They are different products. The PSP can store video, the PS2 cannot.

The 19 year old is correct. The PS2 cannot store video.... but some will make it seem as if it can by equating the two different products as having the same capabilities. I've only read half this thread and I've already seen it happen a couple times.

Once again, ignorance of the technology involved is doing serious damage to the reputation of the manufacturer, the product, and the industry.

You just did so yourself.

http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/21/psp-video-9-automates-downloading-video-to-your-psp/



The original story clearly states "playstation portable"

It explains there are websites that teach users how to download the porn.

I wouldn't believe it either, but this is the 2nd story I have seen claiming someone bought a PS that had porn on it.

The PS2 cannot store video. The PSP is designed to do exactly that.

(You and others here really need to learn what the devices can and cannot do before you go jumping all over Sony yet again. This incident could just as easily have been a laptop, a PDA, or a cellphone with a camera on it.)

http://www.us.playstation.com/psp.aspx?id=abouthightlight

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/Products/showproduct.asp?PID=995&FeatureID=8399

So the story is feasible, but I have to agree that if you buy something used, you should figure you might just get something you didn't expect on it.

The PSP's awesome secondary capability is that it can playback movies as well. This could as easily have been a video Ipod.

The PS2 does not have the capability to store video on the memory card. It's just simply not possible. The PSP, on the other hand, is designed for exactly that. For that matter, it could have just as easily been a cellphone with a camera, a handheld computer, a used laptop, or in fact any other handhels device that has the ability to store video.

I just love how some here a jumping all over the gaming industry once again, and also- once again- proving their utter lack of understanding of the technology involved or how it could happen in the first place.

The fact is, this is an accident that is ridiculously easy to occur. All it takes is a couple rushed salespeople who can't be bothered to check.

In fact, something similar happened to me last year- I pulled a computer tower out of the trash (someone threw one away that still had a CPU, motherboard, hard drive, network card, and all) and I was able to browse through their undeleted emails. Names, addresses, phone numbers- it was all there, and this person is very lucky I wasn't of a mind to use it to steal their identity.

The true moral of this story has nothing at all to do with pron, but rather, everything to do with protecting your own identity when selling or giving away used technology. That PSP could as easily have had personal information stored on it- including family photos or videos.

While I could fault the retailers for what ws on the PSP when it was resold, some of the responsibility lies with the person who sold it back to them in the first place.

You buy a used anything, you have to think it might have been actually used, for something other than what you have in mind. If you want to avoid this issue, buy a new memory card.

I would be glad to look up the contact info for you.

I wouldn't want porn on it.

But maybe that is just me :eyes:

Two different products with vastly different capabilities.

It has no internal storage.

A PSP does have internal storage.

Hey! My PSP has been used! And now the buttons stick....


:spank:

The store should of wiped it, but really...if you buy something used you shouldn't be shocked to find things the previous owner left on it.

but the story I saw on the news was about a brand new PS.

Technically, what precisely is it that you think is going on?

But then I don't believe kids should have access to porn, especially when it is unexpected, as in this case.

To answer your question, I don't know what is going on. It bothers me that children's toys have porn on them. You can call that an extreme view if you want. But I'll bet most parents would agree with me.

I'm not sure you grasp what's going on in this story with the technology. But I'm certain Sony isn't loading porn onto playstations.

Seems like it would have a negative effect on sales. :)

You're making a lot of generalizations here.

double post.

I know a bunch of experts in child psychology who would strongly disagree with that stance.

to an accident/coincidence. If parents monitor their kid's computer access and tv watching, then kids are not exposed to porn.

What made you come to the conclusion that I think kids should be exposed to porn?

play station may well be more damaging than pictures of people having sex.

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for "damaging" :eyes:

that allows people to put a memory card into their playstation so they can use it to look at pictures of their kids on the tv, would allow someone to load other kinds of pictures onto it.

That doesn't mean the product is designed to show porn, any more than any other item capable of storing various kinds of files is.. You understand that a computer doesn't make a distinction between a .jpg or an .mpg of two people having sex, and one of a burbling stream filled with cute duckies?

Look- I highly doubt that this alleged item from this alleged news story (still waitin' for a link, here) was brand-new straight from the factory. If it had porn on it, I'm willing to bet that part of it, like the memory stick, was previously owned. In which case, again, the retailer has to answer for it, but it doesn't mean that the device is specifically "designed to show porn", any more than a DVD player or a television set is.

On the subject.

they wouldn't need a PSA about the PSP-- or the PS2.

if you bought a used digital camera...

Quick! Call the Senate into Session!

If your saying that this 10 year old bought a new Play Station 2 that had porn on it, I don't buy it. It is not possible unless the Play station had a hard drive attached to it. And they do not sell Play Stations with hard drives. They have a hard drive you can buy separately but I believe Sony no longer supports it. It is unlikely that someone bought a Play station 2 that had anything on it unless a hard drive was included. Play station games are DVD/CD based so in order to view anything you have to have a game or video CD or DVD.
So to me the claim does not fly.

Now if you are talking the PSP(Playstation Portable)that may be possible if someone bought a used memory card. The PSP uses Sony Duo Pro Memory Stick to store it's media. Therefore you could have something on there if the car was used. This is not possible on the Play Station 2.

Sorry to go geeky on you but something isn't right here if you know the technology.

And bottom line these things happen not because Sony has a company policy of putting porn out with products aimed for children and teens. These are called accidents because of human error. Unless you clean out the memory cards you are watching everything that the person before you had on it. So make sure you have protection when handling those slutty cards being handled by every gamer that comes its way.

This is non story like the War on Xmas or Xbox.


Edited: Spell Check likes to replace Playstaion with Plantains. But they are yummy when fried.

or if as an earlier poster said, it was a returned item. Or the parents are making it up. I don't think they are because the TV station showed the porn pics (with certain areas shaded out).

Either way, someone screwed up.

It it was a return the store should have erased the card to a fresh state. If it was done via ebay then the parents should check the card. To me the report here in KC sounded like it was due to a return.

The death of Queen Elizabeth II. You can't expect them to know what kind of machine they're talking about, even if it is critically important to the story.



My mother fried some plantains last night. I was well pleased.

so everyone who really wants porn on their play station can have it. Personally, I'd rather see them picking up crack whores on grand theft than shooting up fast food places

It was a user created mod that unlocked code on the PC version of the game.

it wasn't the game manufacturer that did that, correct?

it. Another individual out in the modification community created a computer program which would unlock the content, a person could then download this product and modify their PC COPY to show the sexual content.

The person who coded the mod may have technically violated the license for the game, as that particular game was never designed to be "moddable". He altered the original product in a way which was never intended in the first place.

This is another instance where people who should know better don't fully understand the technology they're lambasting. Some games- such as, for example, Morrowind, Half-Life2, the Doom series, FarCry, and so on- are designed from the ground up to allow user-created content. In fact, one of the most popular multiplayer games ever, Counterstrike, was originally a mod for Half-Life. It's now sold seperately. Similarly, the original Doom had hundreds of user-created mods that were sold in a pack; I believe you can still buy this in some places.

This is part of the reason why such games are so immensely popular: once you buy the product, the game has instant and infinite replay value, as other users will be creating new content on a regular basis. It's really a very good value for the money spent, because new things can be done with it after you buy it.

For example, Half-Life2 has a great mod called "Garry's Mod", which allows you to "spawn" objects and characters from the game into a blank map and pose them, change their facial expressions (randomly or in a controlled fashion, by- ahem- shooting them in the face- no, they don't bleed or recoil or anything, their face just *bang* *poof* changes), etc. It makes for some hilarious screenshots... but, again, using this mod, you can create some suggestive poses. That's all at the whim of the end user, though, and not explicitly intended.

Several things happened.

Not everything that's made for a game gets put into a game. Some objects, stories, or scenes are cut, like scenes cut from a movie before release. Verifying that every file in the game package would probably cost more time and effort than making a whole new game, as the parts for any scene consist of models, pictures, and scripts spread throughout the game file system. So, so long as the game fits on the delivery disks, the developers don't worry about pruning it down further, and to the publishers everything that comes in the package looks like it's part of the game. So long as there's no way to get to disabled content from inside the game, there's no problem.

The companies that make and publish GTA didn't count on the fact that somebody would go combing through the files, find the disabled and unfinished sex mini game, modify the game to include it, and post the files on the internet for others to do it.

What the person who modified the game did was definitely illegal, as it was a violation of the End User License Agreement (a contract between the game maker and the user) that any player agrees to by buying, installing, or playing a game. You can't install most software on a Mac or PC without clicking "I agree" on the EULA.

As for the companies that made the game, legality is unclear, as the content was disabled, and no longer part of the game, though it was on the disc. I would say that they did not do something wrong, because somebody else had to go and interfere by using the product as it was intended to NOT be used to cause the problem. Others would say they did do something wrong, because the content, though not directly accessible, was written on a disc they sold.

that same mod (albeit coded differently) was available for the PS2 version of the game; however, one needed to have a mod kit installed on their PS2- this involves actually cracking the case open and soldering wires, by the way- to make the mod actually do anything.

The actual buried media was present in all versions of the game, for all platforms... it was simply access differently depending on whether it was a console or a PC.

What really bothers me in this case isn't the incident itself, but rather that because of the whole GTA thing, people who hear "PSWhatever" and "porn" in the same sentence are automatically and incorrectly assuming it was a PS2 this kid bought.

Not so- it was a PSP, and only a used memory card to boot. But, some people's porno outrage trigger is so sensitive that once they hear "porn" and "PSWhatever" they instantly cannot be bothered to actually learn which is which, what the capabilities are, or how this could happen in the first place.

To me, that's the real issue: supposedly rational, technically-educated adults who cannot be bothered to learn the fucking facts.

It's infuriating.

but I have seen the GTA one with the whore and he did get the code or cheat or whatever you call it off a web site. I watched him do it. We thought it was funny.

it comes with the game. He was exasperated. "like Gawd Mom, don't you know anything?" Obviously not. I stand corrected. Now what the hell is manual protocol? I ain't asking him nothing else.

Technically, this was known as a mod, short for modification. In the case of GTA, the media itself was buried and disabled, and someone elsewhere, not associated with Rockstar or Sony, found it and coded an addon to enable it.

Cheats are, techically, codes or processes that are actually intentionally hardcoded into the game or the game engine- for example, opening a command console in Doom and typing "god" so you can't be harmed, or "noclip" so you can walk through walls and objects. During development, these are used for debugging purposes; during level design by users, they're used for the same reason.

Not everything that's made for a game gets put into a game. Some objects, stories, or scenes are cut, like scenes cut from a movie before release. Verifying that every file in the game package would probably cost more time and effort than making a whole new game, as the parts for any scene consist of models, pictures, and scripts spread throughout the game file system. So, so long as the game fits on the delivery disks, the developers don't worry about pruning it down further, and to the publishers everything that comes in the package looks like it's part of the game. So long as there's no way to get to disabled content from inside the game, there's no problem.

The companies that make and publish GTA didn't count on the fact that somebody would go combing through the files, find the disabled and unfinished sex mini game, modify the game to include it, and post the files on the internet for others to do it.



EDIT: Did that explanation make sense?

Getting the porn on a used memory stick I can understand, you buy stuff used and you have to expect some wierd shit once in awhile. But a new in the box PSP? I somehow doubt it. It's possible that someone bought it, used it, returned it and Wal-Mart put it back on the shelf but off the assembly line in a box with porn loaded on it. No way.

I'll have to ask my son where he found the one he had.


- Attracts Prostitutes: (Pimp Mode)X, RIGHT, X, X, WHITE, A, Y, A, Y

Prostitutes pay you (Pimp Mode 2): RIGHT, WHITE, WHITE, DOWN, WHITE, UP, UP, WHITE, BLACK

Max Sex Appeal: B, Y, Y, UP, B, R TRIGGER, WHITE, UP, Y, L TRIGGER, L TRIGGER, L TRIGGER

Who sells those? I've never seen such a thing and my teens are video game fanatics (all consoles/systems).

I call major bs on this story.

GameTek, the video game store here, sells used memory sticks for both Xbox and Ps2.

I have to call bullshit on the 10 year old kid buying a new PS2 with porn on it, but I can def. see somebody having put porn on their PSP (PlayStation Portable) stick and simply forgot to delete it.

Buying used things, you just have to expect wierd shit every once and awhile. I mean, damn, its just naked bodies. No reason to get so worked up about it.

Think of the children!

Why do you hate the children?

Yeah... people who don't know the technology they're criticizing tend to make themselves look like asses when they complain, don't they?

I see people learning here, rather than shouting themselves blue in the face the way it usually happens on DU.

We don't have GameTek out here in the middle of nowhere. :eyes:

I'll take your word for it though and join you in this:

"Buying used things, you just have to expect wierd shit every once and awhile. I mean, damn, its just naked bodies. No reason to get so worked up about it."

Word.

Some prudish couple in Oklahoma (the state to actually elect Tom Coburn and Inhofe to the senate) is whining about booooobies, because they bought a product which was previously used.

Maybe we can call Hillary to the scene. Boobies Hillary! To the pander-mobile! Yeah them Okies that thought you were a lesbian a few years ago are going to love ya now because you are protecting their kiddies!

They bought a used product and they didn't check it out beforehand. Hey, people use technology for all sorts of crazy things and yes, the ability to transfer and porn is one of the things to drive many types of consumer electronics. Porn is responsible to some extent for driving sales of the VCR and the growth of the internet. Parents need to be smart and understand the products their kids will be using.

So, no, a new product did not have porn. The PSP is partly marketed to toward kids, but not soley. It is marketed as a portable device that can play video games, show pictures and play movies (that includes playing movies which show human genetilia). To the machine it makes no difference. It's a bunch of ones and zeros.

do you buy a used computer and just let your kid idly use it without formatting the hard disk? do you buy a box of used magazines and comics and just hand it to your kid without sifting through it and taking out all the explicit stuff you don't want them to see? do you buy a used VHS/DVD/VCD/XYZ+123 that has no label describing what's on it (just like a memory stick) and just plop it in for the wide-eyed kids to see without checking it first privately? generally, do you expose your kids to used entertainment products without adequately previewing it out beforehand?

well, if you do any of those things, and then complain about your kid being "exposed" to sex and the multitude of other horrors of the world, then you are a grade A dipshit that probably needs instructions on how to breathe.

used is often sold 'as is' just in case anyone is not clear on the concept of used. one should alter the product to their needs after purchase before use. for people with impressionable kids that means preview/edit/format/fix what you don't like BEFORE you give it to them. that's why you LEARN about the world and things before you BLINDLY HAND THINGS OVER TO KIDS. it is incumbent on the ADULT in the family to deal with the material appropriately -- and if the ADULT doesn't know how to then the ADULT needs to find the next nearest ADULT to teach them how for the future. and then, and only then, once everything has been previewed and deemed OK does one with a flagpole firmly entrenched ones rectum relent to their howling hellspawn and give them the bloody piece of entertainment.

it's not the universe's fucking responsibility to keep every dumb mofo from lodging their head firmly up their ass -- there's just not enough energy in the world to stop them all. i'm sick of hearing about it; people need to grow up and learn about the world around them, especially if they decide to raise kids, or sit down, shut up, and get the hell out of the way. where's child services when you need them... bloody hell... couldn't figure out to LOOK AT THE DAMN THING BEFOREHAND? inexcusable. what's next? buying a mixed bag of fireworks and just handing them to kids without looking at them? i dont' EVEN want to hear any support for the parents on this one. absolutely inexcusable.

Used memory cards, you say? Hmm...

I must investigate further...

instances of people splicing porn into the movies they rented. So you'd be watching Superman for instance, and Clark would kiss Lois, the scene would fade to black... and then fade up to some hardcore porn closeups. I thought it was hilarious.

This is life. People need to grow some fucking skin. The world is not child-proof, nor should it be.

The device is a Play Station Portable, not a Play Station 2. The difference is that the PSP has internal storage and a proprietary video format. The PS2 does not.

Even though the device is primarily a game player, there are no video games involved in this incident. Pornographic video also can be and often is stored on computers, mp3 players, and cameras, and those are also often given to children.

Three months ago, I opened a "new" iron from Target and found water in the reservoir. This PSP is obviously also "renewed." Sony does not ship players with porn installed.

Walmart sells a lot of things. It's unlikely that they know how to examine all of them before re-shopping.

If you buy an electronic storage device used, formatting it is always a good idea.

Unless he plans on being a-sexual for the rest of his life looking at porn isnt going to ruin him, hes going to face those situations sooner or later.

impressive library of porn in the fort. Now, this was before video tape so it was all printed, but we had everything from Playboy to Oui to books.

in our "fort". It was actually an abandon storm drain that came up right behind a newsstand and at the end of every month we would go through the trash at the newsstands and take any magazines that were thrown out. They used to tear off the covers and toss them.
Sorry didn't mean to go off topic but your comment brought back some old memories :toast:

Oh and I still think this story is bullshit. The used memory card shouldn't even be a debate, anything is possible with used gear. But a new PSP with porn pre-installed? I call bullshit.

of retail. Everything that is returned to them gets re-packaged and re-sold. 10 year old boys will find the porn no matter how well you hide it.

Cheers

I remember one event distinctly at around that same age.

There's a creek near my home and a bunch of us went there one day to find crayfish and minnews. Well, lo and behold to our surprise someone had tossed out a bunch of playboys in the creek. Needless to say, we forgot about crayfish. For a bunch of 10 year old boys, that's a treasure trove.

Speaking as someone who used to be ten years old...

(I'm sorry. I'm being lewd, crude, and socially unacceptable. :spank: )

The big thing that was around was "Sun Shine and Health" magazines. They showed photos of different nudist camps around the world.

Everyone was naked in those magazines, even the editor . . . talk about excitement. Cigarettes were eleven cent a pack and hard to get, so we did cigarette butts. I started driving about four years later. A 1935 Ford. Gas was sixteen cent a gallon. And ya got full service for one gallon of gas. Tires checked, under the hood, and the windshield cleaned. I swear I'm not lying.

And there was a playstation game on it!

I'm callin' the paper!

Learn how to fucking parent.

Sincerely,
Everyone with some damn common sense.

And computers, and cell phones with cameras (they can be used for up-skirt shots, ya know). And cameras, especially digital ones.

Anything but be a responsible parent.

Since the person allegedly "victimized" by this pornography is an adult, and has probably had their eyes open (and perhaps even the lights on) during their own sex acts, why is this a big deal?