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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:13 PM
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Smokers - do you litter your butts?...
Surely, the progressive smokers at DU don't. But if you know someone who does, please get them to stop.

It is estimated that several trillion cigarette butts are littered worldwide every year. That's billions of cigarettes flicked, one at a time, on our sidewalks, beaches, nature trails, gardens, and other public places every single day. In fact, cigarettes are the most littered item in America and the world. Cigarette filters are made of cellulose acetate tow, NOT COTTON, and they can take decades to degrade. Not only does cigarette litter ruin even the most picturesque setting, but the toxic residue in cigarette filters is damaging to the environment, and littered butts cause numerous fires every year, some of them fatal.


from: http://www.cigarettelitter.org a non-profit group "dedicated to running educational campaigns aimed at significantly reducing the amount of cigarette litter."

Please, smokers, if you're going to smoke, properly dispose of your butts.

Sid
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:17 PM
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1. I am a proper disposer of butts
Thanks for the reminder.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:20 PM
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5. Cheers to you!...
:toast:

And thanks for thinking of the environment.

Sid
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:22 PM
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11. I really need to quit
So don't be too generous with that praise.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:22 AM
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57. I quit almost two years ago...
it wasn't easy, but it's the best thing that I've ever done for myself. I feel so much better! :) You can do it, too, proud2Blib! But, I was much like you. Not a litterer! I'd always go out of my way to find a proper place to trash my butt! :)
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:18 PM
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2. Why have filters anyway? A lot of good they do.
Edited on Tue Dec-05-06 09:23 PM by Lastlaughin08
The cigs are gonna kill the smoker anyway.

Maybe they save smokers from burning their fingers. Safety feature?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:26 AM
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:18 PM
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3. I do sometimes -- but I smoke 'roll-my-own' non-filters....
...and I always scrape the butts with my foot to rend them apart into nothing. Sometimes, if I'm in in the woods or something, I stuff them into my pocket (after extinguishing them!) and carry them out with me.

I *should* just quit entirely -- but 'should' is one of those funny words...

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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:42 PM
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24. Same story here...
:hi:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 08:21 AM
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50. Currently enduring the "nightmares and hives" phase...
Edited on Wed Dec-06-06 08:23 AM by yibbehobba
...of nicotine withdrawal.

I WANT MY MOMMY!!! :cry:

Edit to add:

x( :mad: :argh: :hurts: :grr: :nuke: :banghead:
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 08:35 AM
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51. After smoking for 35 years
the patch prevented me from having homicidal thoughts. :crazy: Just a suggestion for your consideration from one who has been there. It's the ONLY way I could do it.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:12 AM
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52. I tried it without a patch last year...
...and after 11 hours, I was seriously considering ramming my head through a plaster and lathe wall.

At the time I thought it might help, for some reason...:shrug:

Next time, I use the patch. And some gum. And a set of shackles, if need be...

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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:25 AM
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58. I used the gum....
which kept me sane! Without a little bit of nicotine for that first two months, I think I would have murdered my husband! :)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:18 PM
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4. Littering is a crime last I heard, in all states, so why would someone admit
to a crime?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:20 PM
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6. They'll take decades to degrade whether it's a landfill or on a sidewalk
There really is no proper disposal...well, maybe we can find a way to hurl all our garbage into the sun. That'll do it.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:21 PM
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7. Never.
Of course, that means that I come home with these stinky butts in my jacket pocket, but it's much better than throwing them on the ground.

My beef is this: if society sends us all to the curb to smoke (something that I agree with, by the way) then perhaps somebody should think about providing more ashtrays out there...
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:34 PM
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19. Applause for you and your stinky pockets!...
:applause:

Sid
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:21 PM
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8. I don't throw my garbage on the floor
I always pocket my butts when I'm out & about. :hi:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:35 PM
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21. Applause for you too!...
:applause: :hi:

Sid
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:21 PM
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9. Well, I don't litter my butt; putting all that litter on it makes it hard to get my pants on.
Redstone
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:21 PM
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10. Non-smokers - do you treat ashtrays outside buildings as trash cans?
I'd be more careful about the butts if cig/ash receptacles weren't routinely full of litter. Any smoker knows they wouldn't do that, it's too great a risk of fire.

Please, non-smokers, put your litter in trash receptacles and leave the ash-cans for smokers to please the OP.

:smoke:

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:25 PM
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12. I was at an event recently
and as we were leaving, we could smell smoke. It was a large crowd and people started panicking to get out of the building. But as we exited, the smell of smoke was even stronger outside.

Turns out someone had thrown some paper in an ashtray that sat by the door and it was in flames. The fire dept arrived and put out the fire. The firemen said they go out on calls just like that a lot more often than we realize.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:27 PM
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13. I hate the infernos people start with their napkins and Kleenex.
Use a trash can, not the ashtray!
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. Exactly!
I try to use an ashtray and it's filled with paper. Not fire friendly.:smoke:
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:30 PM
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15. amen, drum, amen. eom
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:32 PM
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18. Are they like these?...


or are they still those old pans filled with sand? Butt cans like the ones above all but eliminate the risk of fire.

Sid
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:34 PM
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20. Nice Parcheesi game pieces. Nordstrom's Christmas book?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:41 PM
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23. *grin* If you like those, check out these...


Sid
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:44 PM
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25. Damn, I knew I shoulda waited before I ordered...............lol
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:46 AM
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48. not true..they start fires just as bad!! in winter i live in a condo in fla..
people were putting trash in the cig holes in these recepticals, just like the ones pictured above..they were clogging the necks of the cans..one was by our entrance door last winter...unbeknownst to the cigarette smoker who put their cig into the recepticle ..there was paper clogging the neck of the can..and it started a fire at the door of our building!

the fire alarms went off in our building..we all had to evac down the stairs..only to get to the front door and the flames were blocking the front door!

if you see these recepticales..please please do not throw or stuff your garbage into the necks of these recepticles!

it is dangerous!

fly
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:27 AM
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59. Smoker's Outposts - Yeah, It Kills Me When People Stuff Paper in Those
If it's something like a tissue, it may get stuck in the top tube. Next thing you know, you have a new piece of conceptual art.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:50 PM
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65. Au contraire
They've melted about three here at work in the past year because people don't put their damn cigarettes out BEFORE putting them into the receptacle. Smells disgusting, too.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:54 PM
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:58 PM
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30. I should hope your reply
to #10 is not as accusatory as it sounds.:smoke:
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:59 AM
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63. Thank you.
:)
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:31 PM
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16. I regularly police my butts...
It's a habit I picked up from a good friend of mine several years ago. Cigarette butts are an eyesore, if nothing else.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:31 PM
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17. I try to dispose environmentally, but
I think the butts may break down more quickly. When I'm at my best friends house, we smoke outdoors (the wife demands it) and we use a water filled jar for the butts. The water seems to break them down pretty fast. Just my experience.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:38 PM
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22. If I am somewhere there is no ashtray or trash can I
field strip my cigarettes putting the butt back in the cigarette pack.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:33 AM
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62. Field Dressing it is what I call it.
Making sure all the fire is out, pull the remaining tobacco out, and then pocket the butt. I am EXTREMELY careful about smoking in fields or woods....we watched what a smoker with a careless cigarette on the other side of the woods did to our woods area when I was a kid...running around and trying to save your home when grass is flaming up and moving toward your house is NOT something you want to do at the Age of 11 and before cell phones. My brother and I and every neighbor for miles (and we were SPREAD out then, but back in the day a large column of smoke was something you had to jump in your car or on your tractor and check out because it just might be your neighbor down the road house on fire) were smacking blazing grass and tree based with wet sacks for HOURS to try and save the field and the trees and the crops. Could not get fire trucks back in there cause it was wet and they sank. 1971.

No, I do not litter my butts...anywhere...never have.

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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:46 PM
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26. Throwin' butts out the windows of a car
I really hate the radical non-smoking crowd and their crusade but I'm starting to hate people who throw the butts out their car windows even more. I'm sure it's a percentage of the smokers who do that - I have no way of guessing that percentage but wouldn't be surprised if it were over 50%. It's just too damn easy to do. Throw them away and not have to clean out the ashtray.

The same can be said about some dog owners who let their dogs crap on other people's lawns and are just too lazy to clean it up. On voting day, I stepped in a pile on the lawn outside the polling place, and it just reinforced that feeling.

With things like this, it's human nature to just walk away from it. Lots of people throw gum wrappers on the ground rather than put the effort forth to find a trash can or empty it from their pocket later.

-mwalker
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:51 PM
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28. Do you know WHY they do that?
Because in their over-zealousness, automakers are now making cars without ashtrays. Seriously. I had to do that for awhile (until I quit because I was pregnant) when I first got my new car because there was not an ashtray inside and you can't field strip 'em in the car.

I'm sure you can buy a little pouch for them for the car, but I quit before I got around to doing that.

Why have the automakers stopped putting them in cars? Any ideas?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:32 AM
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41. that pissed me off with saturn. i didnt smoke in it when i was test
driving it. didnt even think to look. ihave a lighter didnt or an ashtray. really pissed me off. i put an ashtray in the car of course which is a pretty big pain in the ass, it sittin on the floor.

and congrats and excitement with baby. i looooooove babies.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:49 AM
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44. There are ashtrays called bobkens that hook on the windowsill ir sit in cupholders
and they have a hole you can just drop the butt in & they will self-extinguish. Invented by Bob & Ken.
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recoveringrepublican Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:36 AM
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47. Thanks for that link! I've been using water bottles, but that's annoying. nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 01:10 AM
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46. An empty soda can, 1/3 filled with water, makes a smokeless ashtray.
(Use a V-8 juice can if soda cans have deposits.)
Easy to discard. No sparks. No burning butts in the ashtray.
Most cars have beverage holders.

:shrug:
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:01 PM
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31. I met two different people who would never use their car ashtray
They were both very proud of the fact that their ashtrays had never been used, even though their cars were not of recent vintage.
I was aghast they just threw their butts out the window.

I wonder if they think it added value to the car which is ridiculous.
Yes, I gave mini-lectures....
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:17 AM
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53. That makes me irate!!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad:

Here in California, where the tiniest spark can start a monsterous wildfire, one small cigarette butt tossed out the window can mean millions of dollars of property damaged and many lives lost. When I see people tossing butts out the window here in CA, I ferverently wish I were a big, stong macho guy instead of a medium sized woman; I'd pull them off the road and bloody their noses for tossing butts out the window.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:48 PM
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27. I roll my own so they are biodegradeable, just paper and tobacco n/t
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:03 PM
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32. Usually I look for a car with their window down to throw them.
Keep those windows up.
:)
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Christian30 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:10 PM
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33. I try
but as someone noted above there are very few public ashtrays anymore. Buildings used to have ashtrays on top of their garbage pails in NYC but since 9/11 they have removed them b/c they got breaks on their insurance to do so. Apparently to prevent terrorists from putting bombs in them. <rolls eyes> So I usually toss them in the curb so they street cleaners will get them.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:11 PM
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34. Most people that have been the military
are good about not throwing butts on the ground. Field strip and place butt in the cellophane that the pack came in and then dispose of properly.

Regards,

Mugu
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Still do that...
been out for a while and the habit never went away.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:39 PM
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39. I discharged in the late 70's and as you say, it stays with you.
Most people learned very quickly that littering a military base was a very bad idea. Plus, some foreign countries take a very dim view of littering and the last thing that enlisted personnel want to do is run afoul of the local authorities.


Regards,

Mugu
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:41 AM
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43. Hell, I still "police the grounds"
It makes very little difference where I am. If I've got some wait time on my hands, rather than sit and kvetch and complain about "filthy smokers littering" I pick up butts myself. It's a trivial part of "being the change we wish to see in the world." I did it in the Army; I can do it as a civilian. Expecting someone else to do it is just another way to target blame without doing anything to make it better. I figure that's stupid. So, I pick up butts.

:shrug:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:16 PM
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35. Here is a good idea:
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Ragin1 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:38 PM
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37. Only in town......
It keeps the street cleaners in a job, and is my personal contribution to sustaining our economy.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:40 PM
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38. Not only do I not litter, I carry a completely sealed flip-top ashtray so
that I never have to throw a butt on the ground. They don't degrade and THEY LOOK LIKE HELL! On the beach, I even pick up other people's. Now, aren't I special.:bounce:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:41 AM
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42. Butts are a big reason cigarettes are being banned everywhere...
like beaches and such. It's the friggin butts! :mad:
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:54 AM
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45. My butts go into my pockets then into a compost pile nt
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 07:59 AM
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49. If there is nowhere
to dispose of my butt, it goes into my pocket or the pack for future disposal. What irks me so many times is to see piles of butts within reach of some sort of receptacle! While I have not, do not, and will not, defend smoking, I DO defend my right to do so. That said, I at least try to be a polite dirty smoker and have been successful in converting others to being more conscious of where they put their dead smokes.
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talk hard Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:20 AM
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54. hate people that throw lit ciggies out car windows
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:26 AM
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55. I just eat 'em. Tasty.
;-)
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:08 AM
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56. When I smoked.....my butts always went with me...
I never threw them down....but when people smoked on my property...I wasn't so lucky, everyone thought I was nuts for raising so much hell over butts being thrown on the ground...so I understand exactly what this is all about...I hate seeing butts laying around...
wb
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:29 AM
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60. I pocket my butts
and dispose of them in the trash.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:32 AM
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61. Generally, No
Normally, if there's no astray or other way to dispose, I'll put the butt out and slip it in the cellophane.

There are some exceptions, though. For example, at our football stadium, there are designated smoking areas with no cans. Everyone leaves them on the cement, and someone is paid to sweep them up.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:03 PM
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64. I don't smoke cigarettes any more, but I used to field strip them. - n/t
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