British DUers, give us some feedback on how the ISG report

and Blair's response are being received over there. Am very interested to know what the public there is talking about now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6217330.stm
Idea of one Iraq 'has been lost'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1965966,00.html

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It could be worse for the president - but not much. James Baker, ever a loyal Bush family retainer, has pulled punches when he could, in theory, have gone for a knockout. The report does not demand a firm or early timetable for withdrawal. That will disappoint many Americans and Iraqis who believe the Anglo-US occupation is part of the problem. Nor does it break much new ground. Many Iraq-related proposals have already been tried and have failed. Instead it tells the administration to try again - and try harder. Its predictions of catastrophe if Iraq deteriorates further are a wake-up call. "Neighbouring countries could intervene. Sunni-Shia clashes could spread. Al-Qaida could ... expand its base of operations. The global standing of the US could be diminished. Americans could become more polarised," it warns. Mr Bush does not have a mountain to climb. He has a whole Himalayan range.

The president has roughly a fortnight to listen to his advisers, pick his way through the ruins, and choose a way forward. An increasingly lonely figure, Mr Bush must now be worrying whether executive control of US foreign and defence policy is slipping away. He will try to pull it back. More and more he resembles a modern-day Sisyphus. He has pushed his Iraq policy as far as it will go. Now the stone teeters at the top of the hill, threatening to roll back down and flatten him.

polarization. SEVENTY-PERCENT of the American people want the Iraq War ended. EIGHTY-FOUR PERCENT of the American people oppose any US participation in a widened Mideast war. And we tried our best to overcome the secretly programmed Bushite-corporate controlled electronic voting machines, in the recent midterms, to make that clear in Congress. I don't think it's a matter of polarization in England either. It's a matter of our governments thwarting the will of the people. Back before the invasion, FIFTY-SIX PERCENT of the American people opposed the Iraq war (Feb.'03), and I'm sure it was even bigger in England. 56% would be a landslide in a presidential election. But no, we had this war shoved down our throats anyway. And I fear that the ISG Report is just more shuckin jive. War profiteers and oil profiteers are determining policy, not the people. That is the problem that needs to be solved, here and in England. Here, they just insert a few lines of code in the voting machines, and, presto, Bush, the slaughterer of a hundred thousand innocent people (in the initial bombing alone), and the torturer of many more, is "re-elected" president. There, I think the problem of lack of representation of the people in government policy is more complex and mysterious.

These days liberal democratic governmenta protect the market and screw the people.

The British people, while not political scietntists, understand the fundamentals. Which is, President Tony doesn't give a fuck what we think, and neither does Broon for that matter.

only who is going to win the FA cup or what's for dinner? There is one thing though that most think Bush is a w*n*e*