What do Roe v. Wade and Gay Marriage have in common?

Republican leaders really don't give a shit about either one of them except for their potential to galvanize followers and distract them from things that really affect their daily lives.

Is my life changed if Jane Smith has an abortion because she is 17, unmarried and wants to go to college so she can provide for a better life in the future?

Is my life changed because Sam Smith and John Jones want to get married and enjoy the same civil rights I do?

Not one bit!

Is my life changed when the U.S. invades a foreign nation based on lies? You bet! My tax money is being sucked into the desert sands, diplomatic relations are strained, terrorists are inspired and I am less safe now than before we invaded.

Is my life changed when the U.S. fails to prepare adequately for natural disasters and botches the recovery process. You bet! The economy will feel the effects of Katrina, Rita, Jeanne, Frances, Charley, et. al. for quite a long time.

Is my life changed when the U.S. allows corporations to function without accountability or responsibility? Is my life changed when the U.S. fosters an addiction to oil and permits record oil company profits at the detriment of my bank account? Is my life changed when the U.S. allows its leaders to flagrantly violate civil rights protections in the U.S. Constitution?

You bet!

This farce is all at the expense of women who need a safe, legal and rare abortion and homosexual couples who deserve equal treatment under the law.

They don't care who they hurt as long as they have their distraction. Let's debate abortion and gay marriage until we're blue in the face. Everyone knows it's nearly impossible to get anyone to switch their position on either issue. Therefore, we won't have any oxygen left to talk about what's really going on politically.

Sam is Jane's brother you sicko! ;)

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You're the one who posted this disgusting filth...


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My mantra has always been - if your against abortion ...DON"T HAVE ONE! And if Dick and Dick or Jane and Jane want to solemnize their union - let them, it will only make for a stronger country - look at the european countries, they are making it legal, but a usual, this country hinges on the dictates of fundamentalist..:puke:

And that is the big issue

The whole "conservatives are for less government" line is complete bullshit. The only place they want less government is in the board room. The bedroom and operating room are fair game.

Right on. :thumbsup:

I like that thread talking about getting a privacy amendment. Let me find the link.

... and bring the convsersation back to that one word: Privacy.

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reproductive-optional, enjoyable, private sex with a consenting partner.

Start embroidering those Scarlet A's. Don't return those hangers to the dry cleaners. Call the general contractor to enlarge your closet.

as soon as the second term started.

You'd think that would tip some people off...nope they are now buying that it should be done on the state level...and then when these laws are thrown out for the obvious reasons they blame activist judges. A perfect storm.

into second class citizens not enjoying the same rights and privileges as other classes to choose their destiny in life. If you add other demographics to that, you will see that they too in some way or the other have been denied rights and privileges. When you finally get to the demographic that has first class rights and privilges, you end up with Caucasian men.

This is just an observation on my part.

Now a few caucasian men might disagree. ;)

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I put this in the union forum, but it applies here too.

As I was scanning the AM for talk radio Sunday night, I came upon a conversation. The woman speaking was obviously pro-union and the discussion had turned to the WV miners and their union. During the 2004 campaign, she was talking with one of the union leaders and asked him how things were going in the meeting. He told her not to ask. She replied, "Surely they aren't going for him (meaning Bush)"

The union leader told her, "They haven't even gotten that far. They are too busy discussing gay marriage."

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!! Just like these miners who should have been discussing black lung disease, working conditions and safety, YOU ARE BEING DISTRACTED!

...three hours spent debating abortion. Nothing to do with anything!

During the '04 election I read many statements from people saying the only reason they voted for Bush over Kerry was abortion. Overturning Roe won't make abortion illegal. What Roe did was to say that individual states could not outlaw abortion. Abortion had been legal in NY for 3 years prior to Roe. So outlawing abortion on a national level would require an entirely new law. What needs to done is to frame abortion as a states issue, for now anyway.