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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:36 AM
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Bob Barr Strikes Again: How Bush Will Try to Avoid Impeachment
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 11:40 AM by kpete
Republican reveals Bush Plan to avoid Impeachment
by aggressiveprogressive
Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 09:05:22 AM PDT

Former GOP Congressman, Bob Barr of Georgia, has penned a second op-ed column condemning Bush's illegal wiretap scheme. It appeared in today's Atlanta Journal-Constitution. This time the former US Attorney explains how Bush will try to avoid a well-deserved impeachment proceeding. It's a good primer for what to expect as the coverage progresses.

Barr covers the expected plan of lying, word-parsing, stonewalling, smearing the accusers and utilizing partisanship in defense of his "illegal spying on American citizens" that has already begun.

Selected snippets from the column below:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/28/11522/662



Presidents all the same when scandal strikes
— Former U.S. attorney and congressman Bob Barr practices law in Atlanta. His Web site: www.bobbarr.org
Published on: 12/28/05


Two of the most powerful moments of political déjà vu I have ever experienced took place recently in the context of the Bush administration's defense of presidentially ordered electronic spying on American citizens.

First, in the best tradition of former President Bill Clinton's classic, "it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-is-is" defense, President Bush responded to a question at a White House news conference about what now appears to be a clear violation of federal electronic monitoring laws by trying to argue that he had not ordered the National Security Agency to "monitor" phone and e-mail communications of American citizens without court order; he had merely ordered them to "detect" improper communications.

First, we get a president bobbing and weaving like Muhammad Ali. He knows he can't really tell the truth and he knows he can't rely only on lies. The resulting dilemma leads him to veer from unintelligible muttering to attempts to distract, and then to chest-beating bravado and attacks on his accusers.

The signs are everywhere that the Bush White House is busily implementing all parts of this defense strategy. It would be refreshing if it decided to clear the air and actually be honest about its post-Sept. 11 surveillance. However, that's unlikely. The problem this president faces, as did his predecessors, is that full disclosure would lead to the remedy stage. No president wants to fight that end-game.


http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/1205/28edbarr.html
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:38 AM
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1. Fuck Bob Barr
He was one of the biggest duouch bags during Monica Gate.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:45 AM
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2. eh
If anyone is a deep space nine fan, you saw the evil cardassians turn against their comrades at the last second when the good guys were in danger of not winning.

Point being, when someone is helping you out, hold your fire on them.

Barr's helping us out here big time, you have a pretty right wing "nonliberal" saying things that could come out of anyone's mouth more or less on this website, he gives the arguments credibility to those in the middle.

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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:50 AM
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3. Yes, he is an evil bastard...
I say use him, let him talk, we need him and anyone else willing to speak out against this regime!!!
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:57 AM
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5. think of him as a reverse-Lieberman
B*sh likes to quote Joementum to make it look like he has bipartisan support.
We need to use Barr in the same way, as in: "hey, even a rabid rightwingnut like Barr admits that B*sh needs to be impeached!"
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:26 PM
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13. I agree
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 02:27 PM by FreedomAngel82
We have to put things aside and at least work on this common goal together. I saw him on CNN a while back when this was first coming out and you could tell he didn't like it and was pretty pissed off. Hopefully he can get other people on board too. When does everyone return to DC?
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:34 PM
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14. I think that the Senate returns on Jan. 18th and the House returns on the
31st. For verification or further details, please tune in to c-span (sorry, just had to be a bit of a smartass there).
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:43 PM
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16. Churchill & FDR accepted Stalin as an ally--we can do no less.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:55 AM
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4. NOM! I will take any opinion that gets coverage regarding
condemnation of our government spying on us, and I don't care who it's coming from.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:58 AM
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6. Right when Bob Barr speaks,,, Repugs listen (and nom)
so it is good it is not coming from a dem
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:07 PM
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7. Here's #5 for ya. n/t
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:30 PM
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8. K&R-No one here should downplay the significance of RW
mouthpieces attacking the RW King. It can only be to our advantage and it totally deflated the "Playing politics" line Scotty whips out every news conference.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:04 PM
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9. But how many votes;
Will this produce for the Dems come Nov?:banghead:
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:17 PM
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10. Perhaps not many, but...
The question could also be phrased as "How many votes will this lose for the rebubbalicans come November?"
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:23 PM
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11. Good! I like it when the GOP attacks each other! Go get 'em, Barr!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:26 PM
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12. What I think should happen
is when there are hearings the democrats should do nothing but play video's of him contradicting himself and all that like progressive hosts do like Malloy, Stephanie Miller etc. Just show how's he's lying and use his own words against him. Don't let him speak or answer question's. Just put him under oath and do that. Same thing with the rest of them.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:09 PM
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15. How the f#ck are we going to impeach Bush**???
We haven't even gotten the notes from Cheney's Energy Policy Meetings from YEARS ago. These guys are the master stonewallers, liars, manipulators, trash slingers, etc..

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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:46 PM
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17. Nope this time we got an imperialistic idiot standing in front of a
microphone. We also have a written reply to select members of Congress that is fictitious at best.
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