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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:05 AM
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English-only FReeps want return to Latin mass - Go figure
Whatever happened to the idea of English as a national language?

Someone posted a months-old article on how the Pope wants to return to the Latin mass.

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Sounds good. Latin is a beautiful language.

1 posted on 12/25/2006 5:14:35 PM PST by Hacksaw

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To: Hacksaw

As a former Catholic, I think this is a wonderful idea.

5 posted on 12/25/2006 5:20:40 PM PST by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)

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To: Hacksaw

I am not Catholic but I am all about traditions and I think this is a wonderful idea.....

18 posted on 12/25/2006 6:29:51 PM PST by Kimmers (It's not what you take when you leave this world behind, it's what you leave behind when you go)

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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:09 AM
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1. Well, personally..
I am not Catholic, however I do think Latin is a kickin' rad language. I'd like to see it make a comeback.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:11 AM
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2. When people could not understand
what the priest was saying during mass it added an air of mystery and power, I remember my mother who was raised Catholic saying how disappointed she was when she heard mass in English and realized they weren't really saying anything different then Protestants!
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:32 AM
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9. My grandmother became a Catholic at the age of 80.
She never would have done it if Mass had still been in Latin. When I was little, she told me she didn't want to go to a church where the preacher turned his back to her, then bent over and mumbled to himself!
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:12 AM
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3. They make no sense
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:15 AM
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4. Maybe nuns should go back to wearing long black habits
That's how it was when I went to church. There was a certain mystery about them.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:16 AM
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5. Then they could get the theology wrong in two languages...
maybe "God hates fags" sounds better in Latin? Freeper logic always eludes me. :crazy:
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:27 AM
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6. I linked over
and was refused because of being on DU. I guess we are the 'evil ones'. hahaha
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:29 AM
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7. jesus, FR's layout is uglier than a botched abortion
NT
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:30 AM
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8. I preferred it, it was spooky and solemn! Plus I love Latin.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:34 AM
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10. Ah, the worshippers of Mel Gibson.
Do they, like Gibson, reject Vatican II? :evilgrin:


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:51 AM
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11. It is indeed interesting, given their general views on English only.
I like the mass in Latin too. it has a lot of spiritual heft to it, at least to my ears. It puts me into a different state of mind.

I'm not explaining it very well, and it simply may be that I grew up with the Latin mass. When I was an altar boy, I learned the service in Latin, and just as I had it memorized, and before I served my first mass, we went to English.

There was something more dramatic about the sounds in Latin. It helped to lift me out of the realm of the everyday. The sound is far more beautiful.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:04 AM
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12. From a logistical standpoint returning to Latin mass would probably make sense
I used to live in Hammond, IN and went to mass at St Michael's in Chicago. There is a very large Polish population that attends St Michaels and they had a priest on staff who spoke Polish and did a mass in Polish.
He was rather old, and it has been 10 years, so I'm assuming at the very least he's retired. Finding another Polish speaking priest has got to be a little difficult (unless you bring one in from Poland).
The Church has places that do masses in Spanish, some in Vietnamese, etc.
I would guess it is probably difficult to find American born Priests that run the gammut of languages the Church is serving throughout the US.
If they did the mass in Latin it would be easier on the Church.

I wouldn't be happy. I kind of like hearing mass in Korean.

on note: I live in Bucheon, Korea.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:13 AM
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15. They would still need to find a priest who speaks Polish
so he could minister to the Polish-only-speaking population.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:22 AM
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18. I think they also have a mass in Spanish, if memory serves.
When I grew up in South Chicago, the population was mostly Polish and Mexican.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:20 AM
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17. My mother attended St Michaels HS in South Chicago.
I'd attended a couple of funerals at the church, one for my grandmother (who lived on Baltimore ave,) and a great Uncle, within the past decade. It's near Russel Square Park, isn't it?

It's a beautiful building.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:22 AM
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19. Right on both counts
I went by there about three years ago...They were renovating the bell tower -- lightning damage I think.

It's a gorgeous building.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:32 PM
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23. I doubt it would be hard for them to find a Polish speaking priest
Lots of people in Chicago speak Polish, at the very least they could find a priest who can read it off of the cards they keep up front
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:09 AM
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13. Am I the only one who found the non-Tridentine mass more meaningful?
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 02:11 AM by Book Lover
Admittedly, I have been to only two in my lifetime, having been born post-V-II, but I felt like I was intruding on the priest's personal prayer time when I sat through the Tridentine mass. I had had several semesters of Latin by then, so it wasn't that I felt distanced by the language; but c'mon, face me! What, I have cooties because I'm the laity?

on edit: removed meaningless phrase.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:12 AM
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14. Hoc est corpus meum...
"This is my body" where "hocuspocus" comes from. Hoc est...
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:16 AM
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16. Just me, but I always thought having the Bible and Masses
only in Latin was to keep the common people from knowing what was REALLY said.

A Straussian technique, if ever I heard one. Of course the Straussian Neo-Cons would support it.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:34 AM
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20. Bring back the Klingon Mass!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:08 PM
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22. Lol!
:D
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:10 AM
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21. Elitists
:D
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:39 PM
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24. These people redifine stupid for the human race
Hey Kimmers, all you're leaving behind when you go is crap.
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