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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:10 PM
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One thing we can all thank Gerald Ford - Justice John Paul Stevens
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16230460/

A lasting effect
But one thing Ford did is making a profound difference in the lives of Americans living today. Measured by its lasting impact, Ford’s most significant act as president was appointing John Paul Stevens to the Supreme Court.

Next week will mark the 31st anniversary of Stevens’ taking his oath as an associate justice of the Supreme Court. Stevens has turned out to be one of the stalwart members of the court's liberal wing.

_______________________________

Can you image if some of Bush's judicial nominees make until 2037 - :scared:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:12 PM
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1. Ford was one of the last GOP presidents to make a SC decision not
Edited on Wed Dec-27-06 02:13 PM by WI_DEM
soley based on ideology. Bush I also made one good decision--David Souter.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:16 PM
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3. one of the last presidents, period, to do that.
Clinton picked Breyer and Ginsburg based solely on ideology, too.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:18 PM
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5. but they are not far left liberals but moderates, so I don't think their
selections were based soley on ideology.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:23 PM
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6. you must be kidding. in 93-94, The Litmus Test was in full effect
Planned Parenthood v. Casey came down in 1992. Ginsburg was appointed in 1993, Breyer in 1994. The only thing that was considered in their selections was ideology.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:13 PM
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14. Sorry, but I don't see them as the opposites of say, Thomas and fat Tony
who clearly are ideologues of the right.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:16 PM
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15. i disagree with your assessment of Nino
but IMHO, a single-issue ideologue is virutally indistinguishable from an ideologue who paints with a broader brush.


Thomas is a total lap-dog. Nino, maybe not so much.
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 04:02 PM
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16. Not kidding
Edited on Wed Dec-27-06 04:03 PM by DU9598
Clinton's choices for the Supreme Court were vetted by Sen. Hatch (R-Utah) as a way of building consensus. I know it seems unheard of now, but the early 1990's were a time of consensus and moderation in judicial selection. If Clinton wanted to go based purely on ideology neither Ginsburg or Breyer would be on the court today.

oops, didn't see the posts below ... yes, that Orin Hatch.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:36 PM
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8. Clinton picked Breyer and Ginsburg specifically on the recommendation
of Orrin Hatch!

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/01/how-clinton-treated-hatch/
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:52 PM
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10. Orrin Hatch recommended Ginsburg??? Well shiver me timbers
was he THAT scared of Bruce Babbitt that he'd recommend the former general counsel of the ACLU?
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:10 PM
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12. Apparently so! It's one of those little things that tends to get buried
by the wingnuts when they attempt to discuss SC nominations/recommendations, so I figured I'd bring that up as an FYI - I'm guessing there are lots of DUers that didn't know this!
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:12 PM
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13. thanks for sharing...
you couldn't pay me to read Hatch's biography, so i'd have never gotten that little tidbit.

muchas gracias.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:13 PM
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2. well i`ll be dead so.......
everyone for themselves!!! no... it`s not going to be what a lot of us envisioned but there is always hope.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:17 PM
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4. I voted for President Ford in 76
the last republican I ever voted for. I thought he was a good man at the time and at that time I couldn't figure Jimmy Carter out. A lot of the conservative yahoos I lived near in Arkansas at the time were all for Carter, that may have swayed my vote.

I hope for his familys sake and dignities sake that he does not have a republican party produced funeralpalooza, like the embarrassment thrown in our face after ray-gun died. Don't tell us ray-gun was a great man, we figured out differently all on our own.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:26 PM
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7. K&R #3 for one, rock-solid, meme n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:36 PM
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9. IIRC, at the time he was expected to go with the conservative
wing, based on his statements and writings to date. Like Souter, he surprised everyone.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:09 PM
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11. Jerry would never make it in today's Republican Party.
He'd have been taken out in the primaries. How times have changed.
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Spearman87 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 04:32 PM
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17. Working in the White House gives you a big
leg up to get the nomination. Not just for the sitting President, also for the VP.
I mean, John McCain probably can not make it through today's primaries either. But suppose he'd somehow taken over for Cheney (for instance, if the shot had been a little closer and Cheney'd been charged with felony under-the-influence manslaughter after killing his hunting buddy). I think he'd have broad enough support that the party would be almost forced to get behind him for the 2008 nomination, in the same way Ford got it in '76. Working in the White House just gives you a tremendous advantage.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 08:05 PM
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18. I'll see that and raise you one...

NIXON wouldn't make it in today's Republican party.

Some of the talk today about Nixon fails to appreciate how far right this country has swung. Nixon was destroyed by his personal paranoia, but politically he'd be to the left of today's Republican party.

He negotiated the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty I with the Soviet Union.

He negotiated normalization of relations with China.

He did what this country has completely forgotten how to do - SPEAK and NEGOTIATE with those whose interests are not aligned with ours.

That sort of thing is anathema to the cowboys we have in office now.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 08:28 PM
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19. True, and he was also kind to the Bureaucrats...n/t
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 01:37 AM
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21. Quite true....when he normalized relations with the Commies, that
caused quite a few heads to spontaneously explode and it took the Far Right 35 years to find a suitable boogeyman to foist they hatred on. And to think that 6 years ago, no one knew what an Islamofascist was....let alone that we had to fight them there so we wouldn't be fighting them here. :eyes:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 05:28 AM
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24. Remember at that time
the Islamofascists (or as Bush put it, the Islamo "fat shits") were our buddies.

They were good, God fearing people that were defending their ways from the the evil Atheist commie bastards.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 12:22 PM
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25. The Right Also Went NUTS

Over Nixon's "detente" policy, and Ford's support of the Equal Rights Amendment.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 08:28 PM
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20. Good point, I will give him his props for that...n/t
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 03:53 AM
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22. Good to know that the boob did one right thing.
Anything else?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 05:11 AM
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23. Thank God/Goddess/The Force whoever
For this Ford appointment. :thumbsup:
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