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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:08 PM
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Newsweek (Fineman): Bush sr. remains skeptical about the purported assassination plot

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16408125/site/newsweek/

The Bushes' Saddam Drama

By Howard Fineman
Newsweek

Jan. 8, 2007 issue - Evil was on the loose in the world, President George W. Bush had told the country, and on his first Thanksgiving in office—November 2001—he was on his way to Fort Campbell in Kentucky to dine with newly trained troops heading out to fight the (evil) Taliban in Afghanistan. In the conference room aboard Air Force One, we talked about evil. "Is Saddam evil?" I asked. Glancing across the table at his aides, he demurred. I asked again; again, a demurral. We went on to other topics. Several exchanges later, Bush interrupted an answer to blurt out a declaration: "By the way, Saddam is evil!"

When the history is written, the saga of the Bushes and the Butcher of Baghdad will be a central thread of the family's story—and of America's at the millennium. It is not personal in the literal sense; neither President Bush ever met Saddam. True, intelligence sources (not all of them necessarily reliable) said Saddam tried to have Bush 41 killed in 1993. And in 2002, drumming up support for the approaching second gulf war, Bush Two called Saddam the "guy who tried to kill my dad." Still, there is no evidence that the Bushes loathed Saddam, and I am told that Dad remains skeptical about the purported assassination plot. "It's not like 'the Hatfields and McCoys'," says a family friend who doesn't want to risk his relationship being quoted by name.

But it is "the Realists and the Neocons." For both Bushes, dealing with Saddam became a way to measure presidential manhood—and to express profoundly different views about the world.

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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:13 PM
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1. The story is based on a story
forced by torture out of a prisoner in Kuwait. That's the total of all the evidence.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:14 PM
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2. That's just plain weird.
Bush Sr. doesn't acknowledge the assassination plot as fact? Didn't people die over that at the time? Not many compared to those who died since, but... just weird...
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Lipton64 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:20 PM
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3. "The realists versus the neocons"
Well shit, many have been pointing that out since 2004. Colin Powell was more or less snubbed out of office. And now that the shit has TOTALLY spilled out of the cup daddy has sent in Baker and Gates to clean house for Dubya after he made a mess with Iraq. Baker and Powell both warned Bush not to invade in 2002 but the neocons, including Wolfowitz, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, did a little tag-team and ganged up and intimidated Powell enough to get the impressionable Junior to make it look like they were intellectually superior with their psychotic talk of imposing democracy and making Israel safer "from terrorists."

Their dual loyalties only came out and shined after the blood started spilling and hundreds...and then horrifically thousands of Americans started coming home in body bags and without limbs. It was at that point that people began to realize just how deep in the sewage tank we were. And then look what happened to them: Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, and now Don Rumsfeld have all vanished POOF! into the thin air of the Washington think tanks and South Florida golf courses where they're currently enjoying their retirement. All the while thousands of American widows and shattered families attempt to rebuild their lives following their loved one's murder in Iraq.....

What a fucked country we live in.....
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:24 PM
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4. Now that Saddam is dead
The Bush propaganda machine will claim "nothing personal".
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:37 PM
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5. No evidence that the Bushes loathed Saddam?
Please! Maybe Poppy didn't hate Saddam, but Georgie had an outright obsession about him
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guyton Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:39 PM
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6. H J RES 114
OMG. This was one of the few "facts" in the war-bill that led us to this horrible state of criminality.

H J RES 114
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:52 PM
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7. George W(azoo) has achieved a more perfect level of nontruthfulness
than even George H(orse's) W(azoo)
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:08 PM
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8. The New Yorker - Sy Hersh - 9-27-2002
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/content/articles/020930fr_archive02?020930fr_archive02

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The story begins with Wali al-Ghazali, a male nurse from the Iraqi holy city of An Najaf, who testified in the trial that he had been approached in early April—roughly a week before the scheduled Bush visit—by an Iraqi intelligence agent while at work and pressured to take part in the assassination mission against Bush. The next day, he was taken to a garage and given a briefing on the car bomb and its remote-control components, and was also provided with a suicide belt and a photograph of a building at Kuwait University where Bush was expected to make an appearance. In case all else failed, al-Ghazali said, he was to put on the belt, get as close to Bush as possible, and detonate it—blowing up both the former President and himself.

. . .

The account gets much murkier at this point: there is no evidence that any of the alleged assassins took any overt steps to deploy any bombs. Sometime before dawn on April 13th, al-Ghazali and al-Assadi, accompanied by two Iraqi accomplices and six paying passengers, took off for Kuwait in al-Assadi's van and in al-Ghazali's Toyota Land Cruiser, which was then allegedly carrying the Iraqi-made car bomb. They crossed the border near Salmi, where Kuwait, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia meet. The tristate-border area is the site of a flourishing black market. Al-Assadi claimed that once he was across the border he buried some of the bombs in the sand and threw away the bag of detonators and weapons.

. . .

At some point, al-Assadi and al-Ghazali decided to leave their paying passengers, who included al-Assadi's uncle and a cousin by marriage, and parked the van in the desert. The uncle refused to stay behind and came along with al-Assadi and al-Ghazali and the accomplices as they drove off in the Land Cruiser to look for sleeping accommodations. They made their way to the sheep farm of Bader al-Shimmari, a known smuggler, with a police record, and hid the whiskey, some weapons, and their vehicle in a sheep pen. Other members of the al-Shimmari family showed up, along with the passengers left in the van, and two days and nights of smoking, drinking, womanizing, driving around, and telephoning ensued. (Everyone in Kuwait has a car telephone, it appears.) According to al-Ghazali's account, he spent one of those nights in the apartment of a friend in Kuwait City, twenty miles to the east, watched a television report about Bush's planned visit to Kuwait University, and asked to be taken there. No one offered to take him, and Bush never went to the main campus of the university anyway. That act—asking for help in casing the joint—was as close as anyone came to an overt act aimed at assassinating Bush. There was also no attempt to plant a bomb in an auto showroom, a marketplace, or anywhere else in Kuwait during the Bush visit. Al-Ghazali testified that he did not even know the location of Kuwait University—allegedly the main target of opportunity in the Bush assassination plot. Al-Assadi, he told the court, "was supposed to show me how to get there."

. . .

One American counterintelligence official, on being asked about the abject performance of the alleged assassination team, conceded, "I don't think their heart was in what they were doing. So it might not have been the crack front-line Republican Guard"—Iraq's best-trained military force—"but their mission was to try and get a car bomb as close as possible to kill Bush. They weren't highly motivated, and they weren't real careful, and I think they performed their duty like the White House staff performs its."

Much more at link
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