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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:50 PM
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Why does the message of "Sacrifice" never apply to the rich?
McCain was just on TV talking about the sacrifice that America is going to have to make by sending in more troops to Iraq and "how it may be an unpopular thing to ask but it is necessary." This struck me, and I thought "Why do we never ask the same sacrifice from the rich?" Politicians ask the lower and middle classes to send their sons and daughters into dangerous resources where they might be killed all the time, as if they were some sort of commodity. When it comes to raising taxes on the rich though it's a bridge too far.

Why is it acceptable to risk to lives of the poor to protect national interests, but never acceptable to ask the rich to give more of their mountainous wealth to do the same?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:53 PM
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1. Because they have their "people" to take care of that sort of thing.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:55 PM
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2. Its a tenet of conservative values
Rich people can't get mussy, should not be subject to laws or government oversight. Its the way or forefathers wanted it to be; just listen to any "conservative" scholar on the radio.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:55 PM
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3. They are the large donor/potential large donors
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:56 PM
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4. Because, as I believe Fitzgerald said, the Rich are different from
Edited on Thu Jan-04-07 01:56 PM by no_hypocrisy
you and me (besides having more money, as retorted Hemingway).
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:57 PM
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5. That's one of the perks of becoming
rich. They rarely, if ever, have to sacrifice anymore. The money provides the power to make damn sure it stays that way.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:57 PM
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6. Why should they?
The rich have the awful business of running industry, government and the military.

Everyone else is merely a cog. To be used and discarded when broken or destroyed.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:58 PM
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7. Maybe it's just as well..let the fury at the hyper-wealthy simmer a bit longer
and maybe this country will be able to follow the excellent example our French brethren set for us during their Revolution. They knew how to "ask the rich to give more of their mountainous wealth," all right, and perhaps just a little bit extra here and there. The lives of the poor and middle-class citizens are NOT less worthy than the accumulated wealth of the rich. :evilgrin:
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:59 PM
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8. They figure we have nothing better to do...
They believe it's alright for them to send us off on grunt and dangerous duties because we are just like little rodents and cockroaches to them who don't matter.

And I also wonder, what is the EXACT reward troops get for this sacrifice? Do the rich ever raise a finger without knowing exactly what they will get in return? Hell no... nothing they do is without a profit motive. They think we are just simple rodents who don't care about these things.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:00 PM
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9. What do you think this is? Democracy?
The common man was put on earth to serve his betters.

We have created a better type of man: the artificial person. The artificial person is your master.

The artificial person will take care of your every need if you serve him. After he robs you blind, poisons your food and pollutes the air you breath and the water you drink.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:08 PM
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10. Sssh! You're revealing the secret.
That's just the tip of the iceberg of this country's "preferential option for the rich."
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:09 PM
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11. Did you hear Boehner just now......
He started out with the fact that the congress is going to have to make "sacrifices"......I guess that is the new republican buzz word and they will all spew it.
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:18 PM
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12. It's a mistake for the Republicans to use this word.
The rebuttal is SO easy.

Who is going to sacrifice?

Make any variation on that theme you like, they all make the Republicans look like, well, exactly what they are.

Who is going to do the sacrificing?

Please, big wig Democrats, this is an easy one. Pick this up and run with it.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:27 PM
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13. But, but, but, but
If they have to sacrifice their wealth, then it is just wasted. On stupid government projects with no over-sight and all the money just goes to welfare cheats. That never happens in this war because all the contracts are given to scrupulously honest companies like Haliburton which are overseen by strict accountants like Arthur Anderson. Plus, it is just so unfair to ask people to sacrifice the dividend income that their employees have worked so hard to create. Nobody would want to be a CEO or a professional baseball player or movie star if they did not get to keep all of the millions that they earn. Atlas would just shrug and the world would fall to misery. Haven't you seen the movie "It's a Rich life" where the angel Beelzebub shows what Bedford Falls would be like if Potter had never been born? They show it every Halloween. Don't you remember how miserable everyone was without Potter to collect all the rent and own all the businesses? If Wal-mart heirs had to pay taxes on their income, they would be forced to reduce wages and benefits and the only way they could still offer low prices would be to get all their merchandise from China, which would devastate US manufacturing jobs. You wouldn't want that to happen, would you?
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:28 PM
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14. The rich sacrifice plenty during times of war
They have to sacrifice workers in their plants, and sometimes have to pay replacements more after they fire people for missing work due to National Guard duty being a target in Baghdad. You just lack empathy. Think how much it must pain them to sign those paychecks.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:45 PM
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15. No kidding.
It's not THEIR kids who are coming back with legs and minds missing, all because they were trying to get a college education.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:48 PM
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16. Ownership has benefits.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:48 PM
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17. Because they're the people we're sacrificing for. n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 03:08 PM
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18. Race Hygiene: Three Bush Family Alliances
snip...

``The must put the most modern medical means in the service of this knowledge.... Those who are physically and mentally unhealthy and unworthy must not perpetuate their suffering in the body of their children.... The prevention of the faculty and opportunity to procreate on the part of the physically degenerate and mentally sick, over a period of only 600 years, would ... free humanity from an immeasurable misfortune.''

``The per capita income gap between the developed and the developing countries is increasing, in large part the result of higher birth rates in the poorer countries.... Famine in India, unwanted babies in the United States, poverty that seemed to form an unbreakable chain for millions of people--how should we tackle these problems?.... It is quite clear that one of the major challenges of the 1970s ... will be to curb the world's fertility.''

These two quotations are alike in their mock show of concern for human suffering, and in their cynical remedy for it: Big Brother must prevent the `` unworthy '' or `` unwanted '' people from living.

Let us now further inquire into the family background of our President, so as to help illustrate how the second quoted author, George Bush@s1 came to share the outlook of the first, Adolf Hitler. MORE...

http://www.tarpley.net/bush3.htm


It's about the master races and the "Übermensch"(Old Money)and you and me "Untermensch"...

During the American Civil, men with as little as $300.00 in their pockets, could hire a substitute to go fight and get killed in the military, in their place, when they were drafted. $300.00 back then, was a sum a poor man could only dream of. And how could a man who could have only dreamed about a sum such as $300.00, have ever afforded to own $1,500.00 slaves? A Civil War Private made about $12.00 a month.

Why do the poor people always fight the rich man's battles?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 03:08 PM
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19. Nothing that applies to us ever applies to the rich...n/t
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 03:12 PM
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20. But the scoff at increasing the taxes on oil profits,
and their executives that make 30 million a year.
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