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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:55 PM
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Mr.bush signs expand his powers further, scary and maddening. Why?
Edited on Thu Jan-04-07 01:58 PM by uppityperson
I know that the Feds can already open mail in situations like the anthrax mailings, but I trust him not even as far as I can throw him. Experts, gvt officials, legislators disagree with this. IF there is already a process in place to do this, like the anthrax stuff, WHY did he have to do a signing statement, contrary to existing laws and contradicting the bill he had signed?

Bush says feds can open mail without warrant

President Bush quietly has claimed sweeping new powers to open Americans' mail without a judge's warrant. Bush asserted the new authority Dec. 20 after signing legislation that overhauls some postal regulations. He then issued a "signing statement" that declared his right to open mail under emergency conditions, contrary to existing law and contradicting the bill he had just signed, according to experts who have reviewed it.

A White House spokeswoman disputed claims that the move gives Bush any new powers, saying the Constitution allows such searches. Still, the move, one year after The New York Times' disclosure of a secret program that allowed warrantless monitoring of Americans' phone calls and e-mail, caught Capitol Hill by surprise.

"Despite the president's statement that he may be able to circumvent a basic privacy protection, the new postal law continues to prohibit the government from snooping into people's mail without a warrant," said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., the incoming House Government Reform Committee chairman, who co-sponsored the bill.

Experts said the new powers could be easily abused and used to vacuum up large amounts of mail. "The signing statement claims authority to open domestic mail without a warrant, and that would be new and quite alarming," said Kate Martin, director of the Center for National Security Studies in Washington. "You have to be concerned," a senior U.S. official agreed. "It takes executive-branch authority beyond anything we've ever known." A top Senate Intelligence Committee aide promised a review of Bush's move. "It's something we're going to look into," the aide said...(much more@link)


Dang, did a check and missed all these topics:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3038605&mesg_id=3038605
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:59 PM
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1. Because he has only legislative constraints,
but so far, no constraints on his unilateral activities and a promise he won't be accused of wrongdoing.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:09 PM
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3. I know. What with the New Congress celebrations, this comes up.
I think that the Feds could already do this in emergencies. Other than just saying "I can do whatever I want", why? Does he not believe that he will be out of office someday? That the cabal will not be running things? Or is the question the answer? Pisses me off.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:30 PM
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5. He still believes and holds power over agencies
and until he is stopped, he is just one of those people who will abuse power. He seems to love it.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:07 PM
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2. He thinks he's Hitler and further he likes the idea
He's got torture camps, assassinates other leaders and their kids, invades countries after a conspiracy of lies, has a huge propaganda network and Nazi-like brainwashed followers who've wrapped themselves in a cloak of godly superiority while using military power to murder, loot and install puppet gov'ts.

That's pretty scary and maddening so I'm not surprised at all that the little dictator thinks he can open our mail.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:13 PM
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4. Will he leave, will the cabal leave in 2009?
I like your username.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 02:38 PM
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6. because the democrats do NOTHING to stop him so why should he stop?
even out of power the dems could have demanded bush follow the constitution but they did not that I know of.

maybe now that the dems are IN, they will challenge bush on signing statements.

but don't hold your breath waiting.

Msongs
www.msongs.com
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