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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:05 PM
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Can Someone "Clue me In" about big Rehnquist on Drugs/Bolton Stuff?
Edited on Thu Jan-04-07 08:47 PM by KoKo01
Josh Marshall's site has this up...like it's a BIG DEAL...but I just don't get why Rhenquist taking Drugs is worse than Limbaugh dealing in a "parking lot." :shrug: So...What's the BIG DEAL about THIS?

Here's the link...that I just don't get:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002280.php

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Chief Justice Rehnquist's Drug Habit
By Jeralyn, Section Judiciary
Posted on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 05:38:08 PM EST
Tags: (all tags)

So, it turns out that while thousands of people languish in our jails for abusing prescription drugs, the late Chief Justice Rehnquist had a habit of his own: Placidyl. I thought they stopped making the drug when they stopped making Quaaludes - they were very similar. I never knew anyone who took it for pain, only to party. Guess I was wrong.

And for the nine years between 1972 and the end of 1981, William Rehnquist consumed great quantities of the potent sedative-hypnotic Placidyl. So great was Rehnquist's Placidyl habit, dependency, or addiction—depending on how you regard long-term drug use—that by the last quarter of 1981 he began slurring his speech in public, became tongue-tied while pronouncing long words, and sometimes had trouble finishing his thoughts.

....The standard dose for adults is 500 milligrams, taken at bedtime. Rehnquist initially took 200 milligrams daily but by 1981 was taking 1,500 milligrams a day.

But he sat on the bench, and affirmed drug sentence after drug sentence. Nice. Here's more on Rehnquist's Placidyl dependency:

According to a Jan. 4, 1982, New York Times account, Rehnquist sought help with the drug in December 1981 because it no longer relieved his pain. He entered George Washington University Hospital on Dec. 27. According to the physician spokesman for the hospital he suffered "disturbances in mental clarity, characterized by distorted perceptions," as doctors weaned him off the drug. The spokesman added that after his Placidyl was cut off, Rehnquist began ''hearing things and seeing things that other people did not hear and see.'' The doctors took his dose back up before re-weaning him. By mid-January, Rehnquist returned to the bench.

....When Rehnquist's drug problem became an issue during the 1986 confirmation hearings, Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, R-Utah, defended Rehnquist in a Post story, saying he got into trouble with Placidyl because he was "a very compliant patient" who "followed the advice" of his doctors. Ah, yes, one of the most brilliant jurists of his time was the victim of his rotten doctors for almost a decade.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:J2I6fgfZRyMJ:talkleft.com/new_archives/012268.html+Chief+Justice+was+Drug+Addict&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:10 PM
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1. For starters Limbaugh was not Chief Justice of the supremos
The time has come to institute some changes to SCOTUS..

Minimum age 60
Review at age 70
Maximum age 75

at age 70 they could be RE-submitted for an additional 5 years, IF they get senate approval

Age 60 would allow for a person to have a full range of history and be at a time in their lives where family issues would most likely be resolved..kids grown..house paid for.,.pension fully vested (rich folks still get pensions)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:15 PM
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2. Agree! This Supremes for Life into the 90's is bad Stuff! But what about My Post?
What's the connection between Josh Bolton(the Criminal) and Renquist Court who allowed Chimp to become "P-Resident?" Just because there was "drugs" involved?

Hell... the Chimp (Emperor) took drugs...dodged the Draft and Stole a Presidency! :shrug: What's the BIG DEAL about this news...as if it matters?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:21 PM
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3. I think it's because Rehnquist was obviously "impaired" for YEARS
and don;t forget HOW junior stole the presidency :)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:23 PM
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4. You think his "impairment" caused his buddies to Deny Gore Presidency?
Is THIS why it's coming out now? :shrug:
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:24 PM
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5. Rehnquist was accused of intimidating voters by challenges in an
Arizona election. It was going to become an issue during confirmation hearings. Bolton in his position supposedly sicced the FBI on the prospective witnesses, thereby intimidating them again prior to their testimony.

Remember that Bolton was in Florida during the counts in 2000. It just so happened that a bunch of Republican operatives were shouting down and intimidating people at the counting sites.

He's not a very nice fellow.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:31 PM
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7. Different Bolton.. That was JOHN Bolton (the walrus)
Josn Bolton may have been in FL too, but he's the white house advisor in question re: the Gilbert & Sullivan judge
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:35 PM
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8. yes..."The WALRUS" thanks for catching that....I wonder if they are related
....Josh and John...I shoulda know better. :blush:
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:39 PM
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9. There is a picture circulating of John Bolton, the "Walrus", or whatever,
in Florida, looking at a punched ballot for chads.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:43 PM
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10. Yes he was there .. in the thick of it, but the Rehnquist -Bolton is Josh
not John

Bah to ALL Boltons :)
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:57 PM
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13. This is from an article that I read on Yahoo search. It says John Bolton.


"Fifteen years later, during the Reagan administration, the FBI was enlisted to conduct background checks on witnesses who were scheduled to testify against Rehnquist's nomination to become chief justice.

The late Sen. Strom Thurmond, a South Carolina Republican, was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee in 1986 when Rehnquist was nominated to be chief justice. John Bolton, who resigned in December as President Bush's U.N. ambassador, was an assistant attorney general under Reagan.

"Thurmond just gave these names to Bolton they will testify for the Democrats and we want to know what they are going to say," a Justice Department official told a counterpart at the FBI, according to a memo in Rehnquist's file.

Alexander Charns, a Durham, North Carolina, lawyer who received the file and has extensively researched the FBI's relationship with the court, said the new disclosures show the Nixon and Reagan administrations went to some lengths to discredit Rehnquist opponents.

The file also indicates the two administrations enlisted the FBI's help in blunting criticism of him during confirmation hearings.

"In many ways, I guess it's the same old story of the political use of the FBI," Charns said."

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 09:01 PM
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14. mea culpa.. I must have misread the original.. But hey
ANYONE who has any dealings with the Bush gang is dirty...no matter the name :)
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:30 PM
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6. what does the link have to do with drugs?
maybe I just read it too fast but I thought it was about the allegation Rhenquist intimidated minority voters. Bolton authorized the FBI to interrogate (intimidate?) the witnesses who would say it happened.

Old charges which were brushed under the table at the time (the part about Rhenquist intimidating minority voters) but this is the first I've seen of a Bolton connection.

See, you can't use the FBI to intimidate your "political" enemies in this country...or I should say, you're not supposed to.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:49 PM
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11. Here's the link I just added talking about the Drugs..
I should have posted this with the OP post and did go back and add it...I figured everyone knew.. Anyway...sorry...here's a link:

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Chief Justice Rehnquist's Drug Habit
By Jeralyn, Section Judiciary
Posted on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 05:38:08 PM EST
Tags: (all tags)

So, it turns out that while thousands of people languish in our jails for abusing prescription drugs, the late Chief Justice Rehnquist had a habit of his own: Placidyl. I thought they stopped making the drug when they stopped making Quaaludes - they were very similar. I never knew anyone who took it for pain, only to party. Guess I was wrong.

And for the nine years between 1972 and the end of 1981, William Rehnquist consumed great quantities of the potent sedative-hypnotic Placidyl. So great was Rehnquist's Placidyl habit, dependency, or addiction—depending on how you regard long-term drug use—that by the last quarter of 1981 he began slurring his speech in public, became tongue-tied while pronouncing long words, and sometimes had trouble finishing his thoughts.

....The standard dose for adults is 500 milligrams, taken at bedtime. Rehnquist initially took 200 milligrams daily but by 1981 was taking 1,500 milligrams a day.

But he sat on the bench, and affirmed drug sentence after drug sentence. Nice. Here's more on Rehnquist's Placidyl dependency:

According to a Jan. 4, 1982, New York Times account, Rehnquist sought help with the drug in December 1981 because it no longer relieved his pain. He entered George Washington University Hospital on Dec. 27. According to the physician spokesman for the hospital he suffered "disturbances in mental clarity, characterized by distorted perceptions," as doctors weaned him off the drug. The spokesman added that after his Placidyl was cut off, Rehnquist began ''hearing things and seeing things that other people did not hear and see.'' The doctors took his dose back up before re-weaning him. By mid-January, Rehnquist returned to the bench.

....When Rehnquist's drug problem became an issue during the 1986 confirmation hearings, Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, R-Utah, defended Rehnquist in a Post story, saying he got into trouble with Placidyl because he was "a very compliant patient" who "followed the advice" of his doctors. Ah, yes, one of the most brilliant jurists of his time was the victim of his rotten doctors for almost a decade.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:J2I6fgfZRyMJ:talkleft.com/new_archives/012268.html+Chief+Justice+was+Drug+Addict&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2

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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 09:04 PM
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15. Substitute W for Rehnquist,
in this paragraph and we have a WINNER in why W is the way he is......

"And for the nine years between 1972 and the end of 1981, William Rehnquist consumed great quantities of the potent sedative-hypnotic Placidyl. So great was Rehnquist's Placidyl habit, dependency, or addiction—depending on how you regard long-term drug use—that by the last quarter of 1981 he began slurring his speech in public, became tongue-tied while pronouncing long words, and sometimes had trouble finishing his thoughts."

Ok, old news. Maybe W was the judge's drug pimp?

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 09:12 PM
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16. Didn't make the Chimp Connection but didn't he travel with his "Pilly" the
whole first year of his P-Residency and the media said he didn't like to spend a night away from his bed and his "Pilly?"

His Dad had big problem taking "Halcyon" (was it) to sleep on those Presidential trips to foreign lands.

Chimp was doing "heavy duty" campaigning after "9/11" where he couldn't always get home to his bed.

WHAT IF...Chimps disorder is his "sleep" medication or "pain" medication for his knees when he stopped running and went to his Mountain Bike?

What if he's a DRUG ADDICT?
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:49 PM
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12. There were stories of Rehnquist hallucinating while on drugs, claiming that
people outside his room were conspiring against him.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 09:14 PM
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17. I wonder if Cheney/Rumsfeld were on the same "Medication." They see
"terraists" under their beds and stalking them everywhere. :eyes:
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earlybelle Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 10:08 PM
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18. I remember well some of Rehnquist's classmates telling all about his drug habit.
Couldn't figure out how he passed the nomination but after a "joint" I realized that laws are only made to be used against the folks with little or no power and morality is in the eyes of the beholders. That was a while back in the 80's but I feel pretty much the same way about it as I did then. And I haven't had a "joint" in 15 years.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:52 AM
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19. More here...and THAT explains those stupidass stripes on the sleeves of his "impeachment" robe
No chief justice ever pulled that "ruler of the Queen's Navy" absurdity before he did.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6322515,00.html

FBI Files: Rehnquist Had Hallucinations

Thursday January 4, 2007 4:01 PM
By MARK SHERMAN and PETE YOST

Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON (AP) - The FBI's file on former Chief Justice William Rehnquist - made public more than a year after his death - indicates the Nixon and Reagan administrations enlisted its help in blunting criticism of him during confirmation hearings.

The file also offers insight into the hallucinations and other symptoms of withdrawal that Rehnquist suffered when he was taken off a prescription painkiller in 1981. A doctor was cited as saying that Rehnquist, an associate justice of the Supreme Court at the time, tried to escape the hospital in his pajamas and imagined that the CIA was plotting against him.

The FBI on Wednesday released 1,561 pages of documents on Rehnquist to The Associated Press, other news organizations and scholars in response to requests made under the Freedom of Information Act...Alexander Charns, a Durham, N.C., lawyer who received the file and has extensively researched the FBI's relationship with the court, said the new disclosures show the two administrations went to some lengths to discredit Rehnquist opponents.

``In many ways, I guess it's the same old story of the political use of the FBI,'' Charns said.

The documents show that the FBI was aware in 1971 that Rehnquist had owned a home in Phoenix with a deed that allowed him to sell only to whites. The restrictive covenant was not disclosed until his 1986 confirmation hearings...The FBI file, citing one of his physicians, said Rehnquist experienced withdrawal symptoms that included trying to escape the facility and discerning changes in the patterns on the hospital curtains. The justice also thought he heard voices outside his room discussing various plots against him. .....In one previously secret memo from 1971, an FBI official wrote, ``No persons interviewed during our current or 1969 investigation furnished information bearing adversely on Rehnquist's morals or professional integrity; however ...'' The next third of the page is blacked out, under the disclosure law's exception for matters of national security.

``It would be nice to know what is still classified, three decades later,'' Charns said.


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