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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:14 PM
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Should Bush/Cheney be brought to trial in the U.S., The Hague, or Baghdad?
Even though Dems now control the congress, the fact is that Bush can veto anything they pass. And even if he were to be impeached by the House, the Senate doesn't have enough votes to remove him from office.

But indulge me in a moment of fantasy. Assuming that Bush/Cheney were ever to stand trial for their war crimes and their crimes against humanity, where should they be tried to ensure justice, and warn any future president that he/she will be held accountable?

My own choice would be the Hague, but our country has never recognized their authority. Nonetheless, I believe that this is perhaps the one place where justice can be found today. No death penalty, no lynchings, and no political agenda. Only a judgment of whether they are guilty or innocent of the charges.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:16 PM
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1. All three of them! n/t
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:25 PM
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8. Yep, all three, consecutively. Let that be how they spend the remainder of their days.
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 02:25 PM by tblue
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:20 PM
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2. Well, they'll be pardoned in the US. And Baghdad isn't even a real choice.
So it'll have to either be a civil suit or the Hague. And I doubt they'll meet Hague criteria.

Basically, they're going to walk free. It sucks.

The only compensation I get is knowing they're trapped within their own soulless bodies.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:40 PM
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12. I'm not sure that the Hague "criteria" is. But it must be in the sewer if Bush/Cheney don't meet it.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:23 PM
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3. I say Baghdad.
For three and a half years, they've been telling us about how it's really getting better there. We've spread democracy to Iraq, right?

So . . . just have a nice, peaceful little trial--right outside the Green Zone.

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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:23 PM
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4. We recognized the Hague until 1986
then we assumed a pick and choose attitude to their work. Presently Justice Thomas Buergenthal represents the United States in that court.

I think we should send them to the Hague because that court actually has more credibility in the eyes of the rest of the world than either Baghdad or the US courts.
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stonecoldsober Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:23 PM
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5. Couldn't we just hand them over to the dudes in the leather jackets?
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:24 PM
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6. military
I was thinking maybe the next time Bush and Cheney make a surprise visit to see the troops, maybe the military can just 'forget' to pick them up to take them back home.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:24 PM
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7. The precedent is Baghdad.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:28 PM
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9. I think they should get their justice on the streets of Bagdad
and when the people are done with them, leave em for the wild dogs.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:37 PM
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10. I choose all of the above.
It's the only way justice will be served.
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bluewave Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:38 PM
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11. Hague. Though I hate Bush/Cheney, no death penalty.
We don't need them as martyrs. And I oppose the DP.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:56 PM
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15. Yes.
Don't kill them. Expose their crimes in detail, and if they are convicted, make sure they can never kill again. Then sue them for reparations.
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:46 PM
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13. I like it except
It seems so unfair that the only suffering they would have is an infinite court battle. I'd take that over living in a fractured society or dying in one.

All the wars are looking so much the same.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:48 PM
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14. The Hague
for exactly the same reason they should have sent Sadam to the hague...

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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:03 PM
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16. Bush/Cheney didn't want him in the Hague. The lynching of Hussein is a stain on our country's honor.
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 03:09 PM by Cyrano
"We didn't do it. The Iraqi's did." is just one more huge pile of horse dung being put forth by Bush & Co. He was lynched because that's the way Bush/Cheney, war profiteers, and every other son-of-a-bitch power broker in our country wanted it that way.

Would they have wanted Hussein spouting off about how they had all done business with him in the past and the immense profits they made as a result?

Sometimes, you just have to be ashamed of the deeds that were committed in our name. And if this isn't one of those times, I don't know what is.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:14 PM
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17. The Hague-- the U.S. should rejoin the community of nations...
...that respects international law.
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