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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:55 PM
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The NYTimes says Congress has a moral responsibility....
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/opinion/07sun1.html

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The Democratic majority in Congress has a moral responsibility to address all these issues: fixing the profound flaws in the military tribunals act, restoring the rule of law over Mr. Bush’s rogue intelligence operations and restoring the balance of powers between Congress and the executive branch. So far, key Democrats, including Mr. Leahy and Senator Richard Durbin of Illinois, chairman of a new subcommittee on human rights, have said these issues are high priorities for them.

We would lend such efforts our enthusiastic backing and hope Mr. Leahy, Mr. Durbin and other Democratic leaders are not swayed by the absurd notion circulating in Washington that the Democrats should now “look ahead” rather than use their new majority to right the dangerous wrongs of the last six years of Mr. Bush’s one-party rule.

This is a false choice. Dealing with these issues is not about the past. The administration’s assault on some of the nation’s founding principles continues unabated. If the Democrats were to shirk their responsibility to stop it, that would make them no better than the Republicans who formed and enabled these policies in the first place.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:57 PM
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1. Congress has a CONSTITUTIONAL responsibility to fix the last six years. n/t
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:06 AM
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6. Congress has a CONSTITUTIONAL responsibility to fix the last six years
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:12 AM
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9. Congress has a CONSTITUTIONAL responsibility to fix the last six years
...Just repeating a great phrase, in the interest of brevity and emphasis.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:00 AM
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19. Congress had a Constitutional
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 01:02 AM by dweller
for the last six years, and it's time they shat or got off the pot.

start with flushing the *turd and his cronies from power.

use the back issues of NYTimid for TP...
dp
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:58 PM
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2. This is most important and those that want to ignore
what has happened for popularity or power reasons have no useful right to represent my vote.

"This is a false choice. Dealing with these issues is not about the past. The administration’s assault on some of the nation’s founding principles continues unabated. If the Democrats were to shirk their responsibility to stop it, that would make them no better than the Republicans who formed and enabled these policies in the first place."

That is so correct.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:59 PM
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3. WOW! I never thought I'd see the day when I can rejoice over a NY Times
article, but this is one!
Thank you, kentuck!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:59 PM
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4. Major NOM! nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:00 AM
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5. From the employer of Judith Miller we hear about "moral" what??
(sheesh!) Let's hear about those WMD again, NYT. :eyes:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:09 AM
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7. the new york times? really.... this is`t an onion article?
my, my,is the old grey lady tired of fucking the whitehouse?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:12 AM
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8. exactly!!
where the fuck where they when the GOP-led Congress was running amok?
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 03:09 AM
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23. I do believe
that when the GOP controlled Congress, they were shivering in their little mouse-holes, afraid to come out. Now that we control Congress, they can come out of their little holes, and make squeaking noises demanding that WE clean up the elephant shit.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 11:20 AM
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26. you mean it is a liberal media? nt
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:12 AM
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11. Ha!
:rofl:!!
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:12 AM
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10. WHY THE HELL WEREN'T THEY SCREAMING FOR THIS
WHEN THE REPUBLICS were in charge for the LAST SIX DAMN HORRIBLE years!!!!!

B*stards!!!!! Hope they choke on their own vomit!!! B*stards!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:14 AM
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12. Indeed! Didn't they sit on the NSA domestic spying story
for *more* than a year - had the info *before* the 2004 election - but didn't break the story until around december of 2005.

There is a word for that: COMPLICIT.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:19 AM
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13. Not to defend the Times but...
I think they now feel like an ol' Grey Lady scorned... and lied to by this Administration and they are intent on giving this White House as much hell as they can for the next 2 years. They now see how they were used by Bush and gang. They have no one to blame but themselves but all they can now is to let the world know what type of people are leading this nation. We cannot forgive their going along with this White House before the election but we should not ignore the truth when they are speaking it...
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:30 AM
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15. we can only hope
color me still skeptical... but I can still hope that your scenario is the case.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:33 AM
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16. Sorry, I won't buy into that.....
They're just "following the ways the winds are blowing". No, actually they are WORSE than that! The NYT (or ANY Media, you know the 'fourth estate') has a RESPONSIBILITY ~ A MORAL DUTY ~ to present the facts as they find them to the public.

The gall, THE UNMITIGATED GALL!!!! they have to say the new Democratic Congress has a moral duty to blah, blah, blah....when the NYT and the other MSM media has so HORRIBLY not LIVED UP TO THEIR OWN DUTIES!!!!! They NEVER asked the hard questions or called the adminstration on ANYTHING they did - EVER! They supported the corruption by *not saying a freakin' word'.

How DARE they they point fingers as to what the Dems should do now.....when they never said a word about the Republics were doing THEN!!!

I'll say it again....b*stards!!!! Freakin' lyin' corrupt COMPLICIT b*stards!!!

Spittin' Nails of Fire Here,

M_Y_H

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:14 AM
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21. EXCELLENT rant!
Talk about audacity.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:28 AM
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14. Oh Please! The NYTimes dictating MORAL Responsibility?
And where has their's been during this long endless nightmare of B*'s Regime?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:52 AM
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17. Didn't ya hear, they were tradin theirs in for a few trinkets from Wall Street.
MORAL Responsibility must seem a little too trifle to big buck marketeers like them
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:59 AM
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18. And what should be the Republican minority's "moral responsibility" for causing this mess? (nt)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:09 AM
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20. Wow, I am humbled, and have been played. The NYT got me.
The thing is, I think the Dems are up to the task, despite what you think of the NYTimes or who put us into this assinine and dangerous situation.
Someone has got to fix it. I hope the Dems have the wherewithal and hutzpa to do it. And even as of now, FUCK those rethugs who failed so miserably. Whatever the Dems do, it will be better than what came before.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:22 AM
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22. No more free ride for this nightmarish presidency. Impeachment NOW.
The law is clear on this. A warrant is required to open Americans’ mail under a statute that was passed to stop just this sort of abuse using just this sort of pretext. But then again, the law is also clear on the need to obtain a warrant before intercepting Americans’ telephone calls and e-mail. Mr. Bush began openly defying that law after Sept. 11, 2001, authorizing the National Security Agency to eavesdrop without a court order on calls and e-mail between the United States and other countries.



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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 03:20 AM
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24. what a bunch of gross whores, how about the fucking administration
led by the chimpanzee
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 03:55 AM
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25. They HELD the wiretapping story for over a year!
STFU NYTimes.
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