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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:01 AM
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I thought major media was still pretending this was real
Is Iraq mission impossible?
String of mistakes set up the U.S. for failure from the start
BY Tim Phelps
Washington Bureau Chief

WASHINGTON -- Even in its greatest moment of triumph in Iraq, when a giant statue of Saddam Hussein was pulled down in Baghdad's Firdos (Paradise) Square, the seeds of U.S. failure were already sown.

The tight television shots of cheering Iraqis beamed around the world were misleading. Only a few dozen Iraqis were cheering, according to reporters present, while others seethed on the sidelines.

U.S. Army engineers had to be called in to finish the job, briefly planting a U.S. flag on Hussein's head, a faux pas that was a symbol of the occupation to come. Other Iraqis were busy at that moment looting Iraqi ministries.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-usiraq0108,0,5154610.story?coll=ny-top-headlines


Newsday is flat out saying the pull down of the statue was a manufactured photo op.

:wow:
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stansnark Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:06 AM
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1. that was known years ago
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:14 AM
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13. We knew about it
but this is the first time the M$M is admitting it.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:35 AM
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14. but its nice to see the 'real' media catching up finally
better late than never i say.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:10 AM
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2. I remember some footage about it being manufactured...
US tanks pulled the statue down...
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:10 AM
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3. And then the statue pieces were sold
to Harlan Crow from Dallas.

He told me that he would bring it to his house "after the situation cools down".

Well, Harlan, I hope that you aren't holding your breath.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:14 AM
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4. I remember reading here on DU about how that photo was taken...
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 12:15 AM by larissa
Someone showed the photo with circles around the groups of soldiers, then small circles where a few Iraqi citizens were.

It wasn't all that long ago that it was on here.. and I can't remember who posted the photo and info.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:24 AM
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6. Here is that link to those pictures
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2842.htm
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:38 AM
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8. Thank you MA Dem!
You rock!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:51 AM
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9. Anytime, larissa--those are some of my favorite pictures...for the hypocrisy they illustrate! NT
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:19 AM
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5. War-mongering media still doesn't get it though
They think the problem was with the tactical errors in the conduct of the war.

It's not.

Those tactical mistakes, or mistakes like them, will and do happen in every war. Period. That's why the military has the structures it does, to mitigate the fallout of those inevitable screw-ups.

The problem was not that the war was done wrong, the problem was that it was done at all. The pro-war media is still trying to salvage the idea (maybe just for their own consciences) that there was a "right" way to invade a country that never attacked us. They're trying to pretend that the strategy wasn't a loser for America's security and interests from the beginning. They're wrong.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:32 AM
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7. americans don't mind this sorta thing....
the end justifies the means. the end (iraq free of saddam, and arabs punished for 911) overrides facts the entire thing was staged for western mediawhores...during a democratic convention once, abc tv intentionally focused its cameras on the black delegates from mississippi...in a critical examination of the network news political coverage, abc's racism was clearly shown, the scope of the camera was taken w/out the close focus; it showed a sea of white delegates surrounding the small cluster of black people. abc apparently was forced to apologise for that(?) But even with such antics routine in newmedia coverage, the american people eat it up like pablum...mmm mmmm good!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:29 AM
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10. well, yeah... man, that was cheesy
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:56 AM
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11. Most people do not know this. k and r
All most people know is what the republicon corporate propaganda catapult led them to believe -- that the Iraq people were glad Commander AWOL had sent our sons and daughters over there for an Oil Profits War.

K and r -- so more people will know how MANIPULATED they have been by commander AWOL and the republicon chickenhawk pharisees.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:01 AM
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12. wingnuts still refer to the moment as an example
of triumph... as in "don't you remember when they pulled the statue down..."

The public still does not understand the idea of perception management and the extreme way that has been used by this admin to convince them of things that just are not true and have no basis in reality.
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