Ted Kennedy's speech on now C-SPAN

highlights please, I heard that Senator Kennedy was going to talk about Iraq.

:hi:

Excerpt from Ted Kennedy's speech on refusing to send more troops (long but with reading!)

for excerpts and an online link to sign his petition. Stop funding this Bull!!!!

Well, she'll explain it the way Bush prefers people hear it, anyway. CNN never changes.

that no additional troops or dollars can be sent unless and until congress approves the proposal

attack! Article I Section 8 of the Constitution of the US!

Impeach The Mutha F----- Already!!!!

escalation and the PEOPLE should have the vote on what the President plans to do.

November Election has dramatically changed Rubber Stamp Congress. We must SHOW DEMS WE HEARD THEIR VOICES...with BOLD VISION!

We Must ACT to prevent it!

before he sent thousands more to die in Vietnam. Quoting Johnson again...saying that those comparisons resonate painfully decades later. Johnson became divorced from the reality of what was going on there.

Finally we can get something done in this country.

but Barney Frank is on Franken right now, saying the money has already been given to Bush for the Iraqi war, and they cannot do anything or if they amended it it would take 2/3 of the Congress to say no more money, but apparently since this a$$hole is commnander in thief he could get the money from somewhere else, if I understood that well.

examine the part that goes to Escalation. It will be a "stalling tactic" to make Bush scramble for the money. I heard Franken just before I tuned in to C-Span.

When Ted gets going, it's a wonderful sight to behold :woohoo:

that the WH was obsessed with victory and divorced from popular opinion.

George Bush's Vietnam.



... Comparisons from history resonate painfully in today's
debate on Iraq. In Vietnam, the White House grew
increasingly obsessed with victory, and increasingly
divorced from the will of the people and any rational
policy. The Department of Defense kept assuring us that each
new escalation in Vietnam would be the last. Instead, each
one led only to the next.

There was no military solution to that war. But we kept
trying to find one anyway. In the end, 58,000 Americans died
in the search for it.

Echoes of that disaster are all around us today. Iraq is
George Bush's Vietnam.






“My Lai of Iraq” PLEASE release the photos Why the censorship?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3075184

The 1968 My Lai massacre, which some compare to Haditha, dramatically reduced support for the American military campaign in Vietnam.


What are you REALLY afraid of?


http://allspinzone.com/wp/2007/01/08/when-the-media-gags-itself

By making the decision not to publish the photographs from Haditha, the Washington Post editors are no better than the Holocaust deniers that recently met in Tehran. More importantly, if photographic evidence didn’t exist of the Holocaust (or was held back, or destroyed), it would be so much easier for the deniers to credibly make their case that the Holocaust didn’t happen. In fact, history could easily be rewritten.

It’s time for the Washington Post editors to make a decision. By holding back these images of atrocities committed in the name of the American people, the Post editors allow the atrocities to continue. This is particularly true in a week which decisions are going to be announced that will define U.S. involvement in Iraq for at least the rest of George Bush’s term in office.

If you run a blog, I humbly ask that you bring this story to the attention of your readers, and that you ask your readers to contact the ombudsman at the Washington Post:

Deborah Howell
202-334-7582
ombudsman@washpost.com

We deserve the truth. We can handle the truth. We must know the truth in order to make informed decisions going forward.



http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/global-evidence-hunt-uncovers-horrific-images/2007/01/07/1168104865104.html

Several marines took photos on November 19, 2005, some of them as part of an intelligence-gathering operation and some in order to record what had happened to the Humvee that was destroyed by a massive roadside bomb, killing Corporal Miguel "T. J." Terrazas.

The photographs of the bomb crater and the shredded vehicle show the power of the explosion that first set the Haditha incident in motion.

Among the images, there is a young boy with a helicopter on the front of his pyjamas, slumped over, his face and head covered in blood. There is a mother lying on a bed, arms splayed, the bodies of three young children huddled against her right side.

There are men with gaping head wounds, and a woman and a child hunkered down on their knees, their hands frozen around their faces as if permanently bracing for an attack.

The images are contained in thousands of pages of NCIS investigative documents obtained by The Washington Post.

Post editors decided that most of the images were too graphic to publish in the newspaper.

and not Less. Mentioning Abazaid's comments on NOT Increasing troops.

from his wise words will be interesting.

his single best political speech. He is the best example of what a US Senator is supposed to be.

I do wish we had more like him.

in the Q&A, too.

This quote comes from a speech Dr. King gave on January 14, 1968. He had visited Joan Baez and her mother in jail and he gave the speech outside the Santa Rita jail in California afterwards.

“And I do not plan to cooperate with evil at any point. Somebody said to me not too long ago,

“ ‘Dr. King don’t you think you are hurting your leadership by taking a stand against the war in Viet Nam? Aren’t people who once respected you going to loose respect for you? And aren’t you hurting the budget of your organization?’

“And I had to look at that person and say,



“‘I am sorry sir, you don’t know me. I am not a consensus leader. And I do not determine what is right and wrong by looking at the budget of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference or by taking a Gallup poll of the majority opinion. Ultimately a genuine leader is not of consensus but a molder of consensus.’

“On some positions cowardice asks the question, ‘is it safe?’

“Expediency asks the question, ‘is it is politic?’

“Vanity asks the question, ‘is it is popular?’

“But conscience asks the question, ‘is it right?’

“There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but he must do it because conscience tells him it is right. And that is where I stand today and that is where I hope you will continue to stand so that we can speed up the day when justice will roll down like waters all over the world and righteousness like a mighty stream. And we will speed up the day when men will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks and nations will not rise up against nations neither they will not start a war anymore and I close by saying as we sing in the old Negro spiritual,

“I ain’t going to study war no more.”

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr and Singer Joan Baez in a Special On Civil Disobedience: Baez Recalls When King Visited Her in Prison, and We Play a Rare Recording of King's Remarks to Supporters Outside the Prison



Martin Luther King: Beyond Vietnam -- A Time to Break Silence
"True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar. It comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring."

is speaking of Martin right now.

did give an excellent speech and nearly had me in tears. I was angry that he didn't immediately get a standing ovation, but eventually he did. He is handeling the questions well too. I am expecting the Congress to say NO to escallation.

the House and Senate may make it difficult for President Bush. I think it may be a combination of democrats and some republicans who say "NO!" to him. It is going to be interesting to see how the president attempts to sell his plan to escalate the violence on Wednesday.

under another name...

This is what I want to hear, someone in power speaking from their heart not their campaign platform. He has also mentioned "us" the people and out vote this past November. Holy crap....a representative, how novel an idea.

Did anyone else see the cutaway to the audience just now?

TWEETY TOO!!!!!

This is in front of the National Press Club. I had hoped that Gannon had his press pass revoked by now.

which the Iraq War Resolution does not Authorize. This could be Supreme Court problem. They can go after him legally. :shrug:

Escape their Duty...and must act NOW! Legislation requires President to obtain the approval of Congress before sending more troops or more money.

and Markey will introduce the Legislation at an appropriate date.

to Seek Another World." (Tennyson)

Loud Applause!

favorite quotes from the Vietnasm era was a great move.

inch to the blivet.

The dead of Massachusetts from this war. Of course, given that his brothers are there, I can only imagine how heartbreaking those trips must be

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30242-2004Dec2.html

Or this pic from this year. For yet another Massachusetts native being buried in Arlington.



http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/grcayer.htm

Too many have died already.

and whether any was sought. And how legal that is.

and other instances. He mentions the War Powers Act. Veto of it by Nixon was overidden by Congress.

He says the "Authorization" they gave him to Invade is Not an Authorization for this Escalation or the grounds that we are fighting in Iraq on now.

the troops in there or otherwise the troops are in place and Dems will be criticized for not funding them. He wants to CUT OFF MONEY NOW! Sounds like that bill will be brought forward right after Bush's speech.

He says if we don't do something all of this will by "empty rhetoric on our part." WOW!

'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
...We are now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
-- Alfred, Lord Tennyson

When asked how are the Dems going to govern. Also says tired of Special Interest involvement in Government.

he's getting angry; so great to hear him.

at 202 224-4543 to express support. He gets a lot of criticism from the righties!:kick:

it's busy, busy, busy. I'll try later.:)

:kick:

:hi:

:dem:

He mentioned that we have a War On Terror. I will never buy that term, and as long as it is acknowledged like a real war, it gives the President (whomever it might be) lots of Imperial latitude.

Not only was the speech great but he hit all the right issues in his answers to questions. Absolutely masterful command of a wide range of important liberal issues.