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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:48 AM
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A guaranteed way for the Republicans to win back the House and Senate...
But they would never make the gamble. It is something the Democrats will never do, because they know they could not get the votes. However, the Republicans could get the votes, with the help of Democrats. What is this secret strategy that would permit them to win back the House and the Senate??

Impeach their own president! Only then would they regain the trust and support of the people and their own voters. However, we know that would never happen. But that is one thing that would help them as a Party.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:55 AM
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1. They have been paper trained too well not to go against their master
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:14 AM
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2. They could "Just Blame Bush" for everything. Explain how they tried to
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 09:16 AM by Solly Mack
be supportive but how he just refuses to listen and that as it was his decision to not go into Iraq with enough troops, and how he wouldn't listen to the Generals to begin with, that it really is all his fault and now he must be stopped since he won't listen to reason...

They could further promote the talking points that it's not conservative policy that was wrong, it is Bush policy...and how Bush isn't a true conservative...

It would work too...because Republicans are looking for someone to blame that allows them to feel "they could have won" (in Iraq) IF only... and adding Bush to the list they already are using (Iraqis, anti-war activists, any random Democrat, and assorted Generals)- would be easy to do.

The religious right would jump on board as they already feel betrayed in some ways by Bush
The neo-cons would gladly allow it since they hide behind conservative policy to expand their agenda and they need good old boy conservatives as their cover...it would give republicans in Congress an out that still allows them to be true believers to their base but puts the onus on Bush - "how the war was handled", and downplays their own complicity in enabling Bush.

Politicians that support unpopular wars become unpopular politicians - the kind that are associated with unpopular wars and can't get re-elected.

It's Bush or the Congressional gravy train - they can only protect one.

On the flip-side, Republican voters/politicians would rather the impeachment come from a Democrat, as they can use it to attack Democrats running for office - no matter how much they themselves wanted Bush to go away and not be a problem for them.

They want Democrats to take care of the problem...they just want Democrats to wear any of the negative for the doing.

It's the do the right thing but still have someone to blame for it tactic...

where something that needs to be done gets done - but the fall out for doing right, and there is always fall out when someone does the right thing - has to land somewhere...and Republicans want that fall out to land on anyone but them.

Sadly,you don't win prizes for doing the right thing...too often it is something that, though needed for the good of the country, creates bad feeling....which are all too often exploited for political gain.

The people voted so Democrats would take the role of doing what was right and not what was easy...the voted for Democrats to wear it.

There are people sacrificing their lives for the crimes of Bush...the people now want politicians to sacrifice that gravy train to stop the dying.

It's not too much to ask to save a life.

It's not too much to ask to save the country.









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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:15 AM
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3. Impeachment Would Help The Republicans
And here is how.

We impeach Cheney and get him removed from office (or he resigns). Dubya appoints a new VP. We impeach Dubya and get him removed from office. We now have a sitting president heading into 2008. He will likely be re-elected and still eligible for two more terms. He'll wait until hearly in his second term to pardon Dubya and Cheney, counting on voters' short memories.

If we impeach Dubya first, Cheney hand picks the successor. And the rest of it is pretty much the same.

If we move to impeach them at the same time, Cheney will resign before it gets under way, and we move back to the first scenario.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:21 AM
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4. Excellent thread. Two important points to re-emphasize:
1. Impeachment will not happen without Republicans initiating it.
2. The Republicans will not initiate impeachment.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:27 AM
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5. Two opinions you mean..
I don't pretend to know what will come but If after some real wrong doing is uncovered through appropriate investigation it will be very difficult for the Democrats not to seek Impeachment and almost impossible for the Republicans to try and block it..I will wait and see what gets uncovered..It is possible that with the shredders running 24 hours a day the investigations will come up with nothing, I don't know but I have learned that the world has many different directions that can be taken and history really doesn't repeat....
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