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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:51 PM
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What is your plan for Iraq? What plan would you propose?
Bush: If you don't like my Iraq plan, tell me yours

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Saturday challenged lawmakers skeptical of his new Iraq plan to propose their own strategy for stopping the violence in Baghdad.

"To oppose everything while proposing nothing is irresponsible," Bush said.

In a pitch to lawmakers and the American people, Bush said the United States will keep the onus on the Iraqi government to take charge of security and reach a political reconciliation. Democrats and many Republicans oppose the Bush plan to send 21,500 more U.S. troops into Iraq.

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Bush: Those who oppose plan must 'offer alternative'

"Members of Congress have a right to express their views, and express them forcefully," Bush said. "But those who refuse to give this plan a chance to work have an obligation to offer an alternative that has a better chance for success. "
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/13/Bush.Dems.radio.ap/index.html



So DU, what's the plan? Give it your best shot... get us out of Iraq. You can go with "GET OUT NOW" if you like... I was sort of leaning towards that one but if there's a way to do that and mitigate the catastrophe we've created, I'm all ears.
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:53 PM
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1. Complete withdrawl.
Just get out now. It is a civil war and none of our business.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:54 PM
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2. Put Wes Clark in charge of diplomacy in the region.
Then get the fuck out.
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:56 PM
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3. go to my journal, forth post down.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:56 PM
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4. We had no business there in the first place. Out NOW!
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 05:57 PM by sfexpat2000
And, don't whine to me, Junior, about your daddy's business partners taking a hit.

You lied, hundreds of thousands of people died. You are a disgrace to this country, let alone to the Office you were appointed to.

You have actively inflamed anti-American sentiment around the world.

It will take us decades to repair that damage.

And Iraq? Iraq will splinter or stay a unified nation -- those are the choices. If you and your government get your sweaty palms off of the tiller, international law applies and so, the chance for a measure of justice.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:56 PM
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5. Lufthansa. Air France, SwissAir, British Airways, Alitalia, SAS ...
Coach ... First Class for the wounded.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:59 PM
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8. LOL I might borrow that idea!
What a hoot.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:58 PM
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6. Bring the troops home today
and leave Halliburton to clean up the mess.

I also like Cindy Sheehan's idea of having dubya and cheney go over to clean it up as part of their sentencing.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:58 PM
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7. Well, we did have that ISG thing recently
perhaps there is something in there, that might be better than this knucklehead idea. Or let's see Murtha mentioned a redeployment, so I would say that we have a few ideas floating around already. But there is none so blind as those who will not see........
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:59 PM
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9. This is such complete bullshit...
we just had the Iraq Study Group, a supposedly bipartisan panel make their recommendations to him, and he completely fucking ignored it. When oh when will this sorry excuse fuckwad President be impeached?
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:10 PM
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10. Give
Iraq's government, Bush and members of his administration. Have them put on trial. If Bush and members of his administration are able to make the case - then Iraq become America's 51st State (rather than an occupied Country). If Bush and members of his administration lose - then the Iraq government should be allowed to hang them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:15 PM
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11. well, there you go
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:19 PM
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12. the first thing we have to do is get our asses out of their country
the second thing is investigations here of the WHIG, followed by the impeachment then send their asses to the Hague, nothing less
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:25 PM
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13. Iraq is a HUGE mess with 110% of the responsibility for the mess.......
on bush and his totally incompetent administration. Sending in additional troops is ABSOLUTELY NOT the answer.The Iraqi citizens ALREADY believe, by a substantial majority, that it is OK to kill an American soldier or otherwise; MORE of our troops going door to door with Iraqi soldiers looking for 'insurgents' is ONLY going to make matters much worse and result in many more deaths on both sides. I would like to see a staged withdrawal of our troops from Baghdad in a relatively short period of time. Our troops would be relocated to the borders of Iraq to stop the influx of foreign fighters, weapons and influence. Intense diplomacy would be done, prior to the relocation of our troops, with the Iraqi government, Iraqi religious factions, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Palestine etc. bushco has proved to be totally incapable of diplomacy, so Congress would have to summon all the very best US diplomats from the past and present to execute REAL diplomacy with ALL these different nations and groups simultaneously. The Iraqis need to be given the chance to run their own country; this endeavor may be impossible, but they still must have the chance to do it, even if failure is the result. The USA should NOT be building nations in the ME, or anywhere else. The removal of the 'occupiers' from the situation should dramatically reduce the tensions. The damn Iraqi religious factions need to find a way to peace in their own country.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:26 PM
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14. First thing is face up
to the fact that We, the US, are the root cause of the fighting there.

There is this myth perpetrated that things are gonna go to shit if we pull out, Hah!

Like they could get worse and the US presence is the glue holding everything together now.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:11 PM
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15. My plan is impossible to carry out now.
I think we should have apologized to Saddam for f------ up his country and gave it back to him. We have probably been responsible for more civilian casualties in the last 3 years than he was in all the years of his rule.
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bluewave Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:14 PM
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16. Arm all 3 sides with weapons which can only be used defensively
And pull out. Make the weapons state-of-the-art. But modify them so that they can't effectively be used offensively. That way, we wouldn't have to worry about Sunni genocide or foreign invasion, while it would encourage the three to leave the others alone.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:16 PM
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17. I don't feel obliged to solve the problem I opposed getting into.
Honestly: like he's just going to go ahead, screwing up constantly, and asking US to get him out of it?

Sorry. I said DON'T DO IT back in 2002. If I had a time machine, I'd be happy to let Bush get in and undo it.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:18 PM
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18. We've succeeded in all our goals. It's time to come home victorious NOW.
Dick Durbin is the one that framed it as the Democratic response to Bush's taped speech -- and I agree with him.

We went there to depose Saddam, stop al Queda from acquiring Saddam's WMD, destroy any WMD that existed, and help the Iraqi people set up the beginnings of a democracy. We've succeeded totally and completely in those goals. We no longer have any congressionally approved reason to be there.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:21 PM
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19. Get Out Now, No If's But's Or Whatever's.
If they want to blame someone we can give them bush* & cheney so they could face the same fair court saddam had. Seems fair to me. What's good for the goose....
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