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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:42 AM
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Lieberman was censured!
WINDSOR -- Windsor Democrats on Thursday followed their colleagues in Manchester by publicly chastising U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman for his support of President Bush and the Iraq war.

The Windsor Democratic Town Committee, in a 34-2 decision, approved a resolution calling for a vote of no confidence in Lieberman, D-Conn., for embracing Bush's position on the war, including denying that the United States wrongly entered the war and that it was not accomplishing the objectives set out by the president.

(snip)

"My goal is to seek a pattern - a groundswell - of Democratic town committee motions in Connecticut that will really get the senator's attention," Swade said Thursday.


http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-wdsreprimand0203.artfeb03,0,3782932.story?coll=hc-headlines-politics-state

I heard this from Chuck Todd of Hot Line on cspan this AM.

Looks like Joe's Party isn't happy with him in Ct. either!!!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:44 AM
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1. EXCELLENT! I was wondering how this turned out.
Thanks for posting!
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:46 AM
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2. Dem challengers are lining up to challenge
the Clinton-impeaching, war-loving, *-kissing, Gonzales confirming Lieberman in the primaries.

One challenge may come from this guy:
http://nedlamont.com/index.html
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:55 AM
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14. I joined Ned's campaign yesterday!
I'm going to do my part to oust Bush III.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:37 AM
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23. Only one thing to say about this!
:applause:

Seriously, though...I sometimes think we're too quick to eat our own instead of focusing on targeting the RepubliCONS. But when one of own deserves it (as does Lieberman, IMO), then they get what they have coming! He can't keep speaking and voting CONlite then expect wholehearted support from Democrats.

I'm hoping Nebraska Democrats will follow Connecticut Democrats lead and do the same for Ben Nelson.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:39 PM
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36. Can't target the republicans
when they are enabled from within our party.
IMHO, we need to see more of this.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:18 PM
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46. I just put the question in google, results show Nelson best dem in state
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/SteveMuscatello/2006/01/19/182962.html

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/SteveMuscatello/2006/01/19/182962/comments.html?comid=9574&f=item

and here is a nebraska democratic blog site:
http://www.nebraskademocrats.org/blog/497/open-thread
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:48 AM
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71. I don't think he voted for impeachment
but let's hope his Joementum hhas been Lieber-sucked out of hhim. He's such a cynical turncoat, thinking his 'no' vote on Alito means anything. What a real bastard.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:46 AM
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3. We will never "accomplish the objectives"
set out by the president (that were possible only in his fundamentalist imagination)
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:46 AM
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4. God, that's just beautiful
Wonderful news.

:woohoo:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:47 AM
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5. it is wake up time Joe!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:47 AM
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6. he was also censured in the 2004 primaries
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:17 AM
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18. Except he didn't run in 2004. Got a link?
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:35 AM
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21. A link?
Put Lieberman 2004 primaries in google and you'll have thousands of links. Of course he ran and even criticized some opponents for their opposition to the war. He did poorly and dropped out early.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:36 AM
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22. that's how bad he did
Joe who? :-)
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:41 AM
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26. Silly me. I was thinking about CT Dem Senate primary, not Prez. Doh!
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:48 AM
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7. Rut roh. Looks like CT is throwing Joementum into reverse
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:48 AM
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8. it is about time someone bitch slapped that F'n NeoCon...
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danalytical Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:53 AM
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12. I love my state
Nutmeggers all the way! WOOHOO!
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:53 PM
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42. Damn straight!!! [nt]
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 04:53 PM by Nutmegger
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:48 AM
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9. wooodamnwhoo! Just what he needs!
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:48 AM
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10. Just a hint of what 2006 is going to be like.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:52 AM
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11. So, tell me how this State Censure thing works?
Can any State Party leaders do this is they get very disappointed with the actions of their Senators?

Can you do the same thing to a Representative?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:55 AM
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13. This is a good start.
And hopefully there will be more of it. I WANT him gone. But I live in CT and the reality is he is still very popular. Whoever challenges him is going to need a ton of money and support. I sure hope there is a groudswell and more people realize that he is not the best representation of CT.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:10 AM
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15. Haha! DLC and DINOs gonna get spanked!
This what you get when you commit or enable a war that is in its entirety a war crime.

Fuck all of you very much for ever doing such a thing, innocent maimed and dead will haunt your ass for eternity.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:41 PM
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39. Yeah, baby!
:spank:

We're just getting started.:hi:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:13 AM
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16. Woohoo! I can't wait to see how he reacts to this!
Will he change his stance or turn republican?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:41 PM
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38. He will turn Independent
That way he can straddle the fence without offending anyone.:sarcasm:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:14 AM
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17. Gawd. I'm in awe of the Conneticut people
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:26 AM
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66. Thanks for that !!
Just so you'll all be aware, Joe is my senator. I emailed him twice. Once before the Alito vote, and once after, to tell him that I would no longer support him as my party's nominee, and would persuade our Dem. Town Committee to support any other Dem, or Independant running against him. In the past week I have received 4 emails back from his office and have answered none of them. Believe me, HE'S WORRIED!!!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:48 AM
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70. I got 3 form Joe, and I'm in New Mexico!!!
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:53 AM
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72. Did you send him an email or fax?
Were his in regards to you voicing your disapproval?? COOL tho', which ever !:hi:
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:24 AM
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19. If You Can't Be a Democrat, Mr. Lieberman...
...then why don't you join the Republicans? I'm sure you'd fit in better there.

Tammy
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:26 AM
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20. I am so glad to hear this
particularly since he was the only democrat that stood when Bush boasted about Iraq war "acomplishments" at the SOTU...Lieberman digusts me.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:37 AM
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24. YAY!!! Let's hear it for the Windsor Democratic Committee!!!!!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:40 AM
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25.  :woohoo:
:woohoo:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:41 AM
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27. Do I hear a RALLLLLLYYYYYY cry???? n/t
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:43 AM
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28. Tee hee.
Thank you good people.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:04 AM
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29. Joe ain't stupid. He's already gotten the message, IMO.
Since the backlash began, about two months ago as I recall, he has not uttered a word of support for the Coward's war.

I hope I'm right, but please let me know if I'm wrong.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:57 PM
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44. But he's still up to a standing ovation at the SOTU.
He's smarmy and sneaky.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:52 PM
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50. Yes, he's definitely smarmy and sneaky.
But the fact that he has learned to STFU about his support for the Coward re. Iraq says that the voices of his constituents had an impact. And that's good news, because frankly it's a huge uphill fight to unseat him and still have a Dem in that seat.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:07 AM
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30. Good (nt)
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:16 AM
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31. They may keep him from getting 65 percent next time....
Good times.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:20 AM
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32. Democrats ARE fighting!
:toast:
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:27 AM
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33. Windsor, founded 1633...the 'founding fathers' speak????
Windsor is the first established town in the State of Connecticut and was founded in 1633
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:37 PM
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34. Thank you, Windsor Democrats!
:patriot:
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:38 PM
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35. Oh, so SWEET!!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:40 PM
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37. Israel hawks are a part of the Dem party. Always have been. Always
will.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:11 PM
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52. If Loopy Lieby were just an Israel hawk, I'd have NO problem with him.
My problem with him is that he's a Mike "Ain't Got No Guts" Dukakis wannabe - a whining, snivelling hangdog half-Republican, half-Democrat political morphodite.

And that's on a GOOD day.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:11 PM
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56. He will not vote to slow down the aggression in the middle east. What
other votes are you thinking of?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:40 PM
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58. It's not his votes. It's his overall Republican partisanship.
It's the way he PUBLICLY blew off Al Gore's "the people against the powerful" during the 2000 campaign.

It's the way he PUBLICLY double-crossed Al Gore by going on Meet the Press during the Florida recount and agreeing to stuffing the ballot boxes with illegal votes from veterans.

That's enough right there to read him out of the party.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:05 PM
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59. In the end, Al Gore too was fooled by his own niceness. He didn't
want to diminish the courts or the election. And called it a day. Bet he wouldn't do the same thing now. You learn.

The other side isn't playing with a full deck. They are playing with thousands of cards, most of them outside the bounds of humanity, the constituion, decency, and the law.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:21 PM
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61. Absolutely. And Lieberman is one of them.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:25 PM
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40. You go, Windsor!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:29 PM
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41. How do we get a censure vote on Norm Coleman?
Our MN man who has his head firmly planted in *ush's posterior?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:33 PM
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48. You need to talk to the Republicans about that. He's theirs!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:19 PM
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53. Oh, I'm sure they are ducky confident in his ability to aid and abet.
I thought it was somehow a general citizen thing.

Teach me to hop from thread to thread all day.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #53
78. When Coleman's term is finally up in 08 he will face the wrath
Randy Kelly's smack-down will look like a kiss on the cheek compared to the take-down of Norm Coleman.
:evilgrin:

Minnesotans will get a lot of help from freedom-loving people everywhere in ousting that Bush ass kisser.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:30 AM
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79. One of my best moments was when Galloway handed Norm his ass.
Edited on Sat Feb-04-06 11:30 AM by Tigress DEM
I know we will eventually overcome, but his smug face gets me all sick inside. Lots of people don't agree with me, but people like him and Ann Coulter just seem like an anomoly.

They are blessed with physical good looks but when Ann opens her mouth she is the ugliest thing I ever saw. And I keep expecting to see cloven hoof prints following Norm around as Satan whispers in his ear at the prayer breakfast.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:54 PM
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43. Yes, I read something about this yesterday
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 05:16 PM by Nutmegger
First Manchester then Windsor. In this state we actually hold our public servants accountable! Go figure!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:04 PM
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45. Excellent News..
:woohoo: :applause: :toast: :applause: :woohoo:
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:26 PM
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47. kick
:kick:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:35 PM
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49. This sends a good message. Loyalty to the Party overides any
self-serving ass-kissing of Bush by Joe Lieberman. You're gonna be disloyal, Joe, you're gonna pay.

Maybe my question the other day was more relevant than I thought...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2421072
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:49 PM
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51. That's not only good....
that's damned good! It's time.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:21 PM
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54. Good
If people aren't happy with the senator and he/she doesn't listen to them they should be warned or something.
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Progressive4Life Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:25 PM
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55. Three cheers for Windsor!
Time to go, Joe! Don't let the door hit you on the way out. :P
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jeannicot Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:13 PM
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57. Big deal
He's still getting elected in Nov. Don't think this really helps much of anything.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #57
60. Um anybody who challenges LIEberman in the primaries
needs the support of local town committies.

That raises a practical question: Even if Lamont decides to run and does draw interest among registered Democrats, could he get the support of the local Democratic Party activists who will attend the primary convention? Fairfield University politics professor John Orman said that to get on the primary ballot so voters have a chance to pick him over Lieberman, Lamont would first need to receive the support of 15 percent of the town committee members who are convention delegates.

~~Snippy-Snip~~

Orman, who briefly ran against Lieberman last year until it was clear he had little support, said he's only heard of two or three Democratic Town Committee chairs who have spoken up against Lieberman, out of some 200 town committees. The strong institutional resistance to challengers helps explain why Lieberman is in his 18th year as senator and will probably serve another six years. "In Connecticut, if you're the type of person who has a career in politics and wants to move up the ladder, you'd be crazy to run against Joe Lieberman," Orman said. "That would be the end of your political career.

~~Snippy-Snip~~

"So it takes a party outsider or a maverick to pull off a huge political upset and get all the citizen action groups together and all the progressive groups and get people who are really upset with Joe," Orman said. A millionaire like Lamont might be able to do it, Orman added, as could a celebrity on par with Arnold Schwarzenegger. But genuinely viable insider candidates like Attorney General Richard Blumenthal or state Rep. Rosa DeLauro won't even try.

Full article here: http://westchesterweekly.com/gbase/News/content?oid=oid:141178

So it does matter.

Oh and welcome to DU. :toast:
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jeannicot Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:27 PM
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63. Lamont can run his heart out. I'm just being realistic.
"In Connecticut, if you're the type of person who has a career in politics and wants to move up the ladder, you'd be crazy to run against Joe Lieberman," Orman said. "That would be the end of your political career."

Pretty much said there.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:33 PM
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64. You forgot to mention that Lamont is a millionaire
Check the last snip.

Regardless of the outcome, these issues need to be spoken about. No incumbent deserves a free pass.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:45 AM
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69. Welcome, and
where in CT. do you live? Belong to a Town Committee? If the answer is yes, isn't it time for you to do something about it instead of being so negative?? Just wondering.:shrug:
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #57
67. Uhhhhhhh.......and YOU ... KNOW .... this ...how???????
or could this just be, your OPINION ?
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:22 PM
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62. I am drafting a copy for Seymour , CT. DTC...
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 11:25 PM by rpgamerd00d
...since I am on the Seymour DTC.

I am also drafting a Bush/Cheney Impeachment Resolution for Seymour as well, a la Arcata, CA.

:D
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:41 AM
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68. You go ahead in Seymour,
and I'll do the same in Thomaston !!! I used to live in Seymour, I'm a Valley Girl at heart!! (still, after all these years. Seymour High class of '57.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 06:03 AM
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76. Good for you!
:applause:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:09 AM
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65. Nice
He really needs a wake-up call...
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:11 AM
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73. NO MO' JOE! (nt)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 03:24 AM
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74. kick
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 05:40 AM
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75. So they saw Lieberman clapping for Junior at the SOTU?
Hmmm
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 06:23 AM
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77. THAT was Joe-mental's "Dean Scream" moment...
Saw that moment of the SOTU and said- "boy is he gonna regret that in a few days".

Jumping out of his seat and looking over at the rest of his party remaining seated was priceless.

Best Telly-Tubby voice- "uh-ooooooh!"
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:41 PM
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80. I guess both he and his constituents are finally getting it--ol' Joe is
far away from the people who elected him.

Then again, we always knew it.
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