American Idol manages to incorporate war propaganda into premier

One of the contestants who got thru to Hollywood is a sailor on a carrier, so we got a nice dose of bullshit about being in the gulf "defending our freedom" blah, blah, blah.....

Endless propaganda on Fox. "24" is bad enough, now they're doing it on American Idol.

Faux needs to give it a fucking rest.

I know The Simpson are on Fox and are anti-Bush but I won't watch them.

I watch CSpan and then KO, and Bill Maher when he's in season.

Thats about it.

It's not only "The Simpsons" that's anti-Bush, but also "The Family Guy". And "American Dad" parodizes right-wing jingoism. Sure, go ahead and boycott "24" if you (mistakenly) believe that it's nothing but freepaganda, but don't tar everyone with the same brush.

I boycott everything on Fox because I don't want to contribute to their coffers in any way. If sponsors knew people boycotted Fox for political reasons, they would want to spend their money elsewhere. My opinion.

doesn't it send a stronger message to WATCH the shows that are not propaganda and only boycott the ones that are?

This boycotting business is a bit tricky....you can boycott WalMart, for example, but at the end of the day you are hurting the workers (many Dems) and not hurting the executives at all.

but in the long term the company suffers and the workers find jobs with more socially-conscious employers like Costco.

I can't miss a train wreck like that.:evilgrin:

how, exactly?

i don't automatically hate all veterans. And yes, they ARE defending your freedom (in general, not with regard to this stupid war). Believe me, if they didn't exist, you'd notice it. And it wouldn't be pleasant.

The ones on the show seem like quite nice kids.

They are not supporting my freedom by being in the gulf, and that is why I called it propaganda. Fine that the guy got thru to Hollywood, and that he's serving, but they didn't need to put that line of bullshit in.

I'm a Vietnam veteran BTW.:patriot:

:shrug:

Keep reading

although I'm sure I saw Sasquatch on another thread...

They did seem like nice kids and they really didn't seem to be promoting the war. Most people in America are so against the war right now that it might actually hurt their chances on American Idol to be associated with this war. BTW, neither one of them were all that great at singing.

you could go on American Idol.

And it hasn't defended us from a legitimate threat since WWII.

Btw, before you spew more bullshit strawmen about 'hating the military': I'm from a long, long line of servicemen/women.

We watch AI for fun and not for news.

I wasn't feeling well and totally forgot it was on. I don't think the bad singers would have helped my upset stomach.

actually, he was one of my favorites from that bunch.

infomercial in the middle with the military guy. There was also a reservist who made it through.

Or is this a SERIES!!!1111!!1 post?

I felt screwn:P

:)

Man, that is series.

And the USS Reagan of all things. But it's his story and he's entitled to it. *sigh*

Randy Jackson is openly laughing at people, Paula "Flatlining Career" Abdul continues to take her own insecurity out on contestants, and Simon is his usual sneering self. Jewel looks uncomfortable and uncomprehending, as might any sane individual.

What were they thinking, though?

but their shot at stardom. But keerist, stomp them into the dirt on national TV? There's something very morbid about viewers who enjoy watching this kind of stuff. The show has not a grain of conscience.

n/t

Their goal is to humiliate people on national TV. It will happen.

"Twisted" is a better word. Watching people suffer. Elevating one's self by finding fault in others.

Please.

That's the point. They choose young people who have little talent, but have friends and family members who tell them how great they are. Then they destroy them on national TV.
Ya like watching that?

n/t

Twisted? Maybe. ;-)

Perhaps cold, hard reality is what they need in order to come to terms.

Yeah, there are probably a good portion who audition knowing they suck and they're aiming for their 15 minutes. However, most people who appear are probably thinking they have a shot when in reality they don't have a hope in hell of making it as a major music star. While the rejection may not be as barbed as it is on AI I can't see them getting any different results if they were to go knocking on the doors of various studios.

Anyway, by this time in the show's history I think anyone who actually goes through the effort of auditioning for AI knows that they run the chance of being slammed on air by Boozy, Grumpy and Dopey.

Britney Spears and Paris Hilton to stardom, why the hell wouldn't any of these kids think they have a shot? Talk about your cold hard dose or reality.

who the f*ck are they to say? Simon told Jennifer Hudson she was "out of her league" -- and she just won a Golden Globe.

Truth is, Simon, you're out of her league.

n/t

off being condescending assholes, to the delight and prurient fascination of the same people who scan car accidents for gore as they drive by.

I never watch it.

ABSURD!!! :tinfoilhat:

Trumps AI for value and it's not so pop oriented.

Jesus. Of all the great books in the world that can be read, why pollute and diminish your mind with that utter crap?

I can still read a good book or whatever. I get serious enough about a lot of things as it is and sometimes some mindless fun is in order for a few hours. To each his own.

Here you must only watch what they tell you, when they tell you to watch it, and like it.

Enjoy it. To each his own. If you like to watch Fox, so be it.

Except everyone who is telling me what not to watch.

And I'm free to think that you're a fucking idiot for watching it.

Cheers!

:-)

From one fucking idiot to another!

Exactly!

The TeeVee is on in the background quite often though.....either that or really loud reggae music.:*

they do a little background on a lot of the contestants. Was there also pro-crack-baby propaganda?

The guy's a sailor - they noted it.

That's the line that got to me.

That's bullshit propaganda.

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all the finalists are processed, cleaned, manipulated, and drained of any emotional warmth, individual style, or content.

the primary qualifications of the finalists are volume and sterility.

and the screaming zombies of the audience, ugh. the "applause" sign is gonna blow some night.

but it makes bucks and that's the american way eh :-)

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The show is a fucking trainwreck for sure.

Because other than that, it's all the same, under the skin. Just some is jealous of not getting that same break.

There were actually complete shows with a plot?

You know, like Hill Street Blues. L.A. Law. Cheers. Seinfeld. Friends.

Now we're left with Crap like American Idol. Deal Or No Deal. The Bachelor. The Biggest Loser.

And non-stop political garbage, with only Keith Olbermann to stand as a voice of intelligence and reason. Even 60 Minutes has jumped the shark.

Just because reality TV exists now, doesn't mean it's the only thing on.

I was really disturbed by both the contestant and the panel. Using the uniform on the backs of those being killed over in Iraq to get fame...and the panel drooling over it made me sick.
I probably would be supportive of the girl if she would have gone on without the uniform and then mentioned her military history.

through that crap bag.

Faux is just a right wing propaganda arm, serving the idiotic and brain dead sectors of our population. Of course it's going to serve up pro-war propaganda, that's its job.

Turn the channel, or better yet, turn your TV off and stop feeding the beast.

Then the other A-list programs start up again in April -- Entourage, Big Love. If it weren't for HBO, I'd likely have no television at all. Anymore, even "reality" shows don't reflect reality on television. Its either escapist pap, or war propaganda and brainwashing.

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It is NOT propaganda for our brave men and women in our military to state their pride in defending our country. They are more honorable and brave then many of us will ever be, and I for one am thankful to all of them for making the sacrifice to serve in our military. The purpose of the military is in fact to protect our nation and its freedom, so how on Earth can you get outraged at a soldier for saying it? It doesn't matter if we do or don't support the premise of the war in Iraq. What matters is that she had the courage and heart to enlist into the military with the honorable purpose of defending our nation, which does in fact still need a military as does need to have defense capabilities. Being stuck in the Iraq quagmire is irrelevant to this. Just because we don't agree with the war in Iraq, does that mean we should disband our military completely and leave ourselves vulnerable to any attack from any nation or any terrorists? It would be ludicrous to declare such. We need a military and we need brave and honorable men and women to choose that sacrifice. I myself would not choose to do so, but I honor the fuck out of those that do, for they are stronger and braver than I. And since we DO in fact need a military and the purpose of a military is in fact to defend the freedoms of a nation, then I completely fail to see why this was something to be outraged about.

I saw her last night. Know what my reaction was? It was "God bless her and her husband. They look like beautiful human beings and may God protect them". That was my reaction, in stark contrast to yours. She was a beautiful person with pure convictions and intent. Why someone would've been outraged afterwards is a bit perplexing to me.

God bless her.

You can have your god bless whomever you please, I suppose, but the corporate oligopoly on media supporting the military industrial complex needs to be pointed out anywhere and everywere.

Give me a friggin break. Seriously.

Other instances of "troops shown on TV" will have to be considered in their context, whether propaganda or not.

...the camo everywhere? Especially if they're not officially representing the Army?

It did come across as "product placement" in my mind.

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Well, I don't think it will work to get her through to the next session again.

I knew the minute I saw her she would be chosen to 'go to Hollywood' .... surprise! surprise!

I initially mistook the OP as referring to the female contestant. But my thoughts apply to the sailor as well. Just wanted to clarify.

I hope she doesn't get sent to Iraq, and I hope she doesn't get bad news from Iraq about her husband.

I don't think so. Don't blame the military for the idiot commander in chief.

I would have been OK with it had they said: He is serving aboard the carrier Ronald Reagan which is in the gulf trying to start World War III.

Anyone who knew and believed the truth would be overboard in a minute.

That is one of the most overrated stupid shows out there

Yeah, I know, it's America. The land where American Idol is more important than our Earth melting around us.

I as a boss however, and especially if my employees were in the public arena, would not allow it.

Wonder if any gimmes will be handed out tonight.

and that God had given her an incredible gift. She had a powerful voice and made it through to Hollywood.

Go Denise Jackson!

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/entertainment/index.php?ntid=115164&ntpid=1

The "American Idol" auditions in Seattle, dubbed the "weirdest turnout in history" by host Ryan Seacrest, more than lived up to the billing.

"What the bloody hell was that?" judge Simon Cowell said on Wednesday's show after enduring a unique version of "Unchained Melody," adding, "It was almost non-human."

In fact, the two-day tryout for Fox's hit singing talent was a real zoo.

One big-eyed, failed hopeful was compared to a "bush baby," a jungle animal, by the caustic Cowell, who termed another contestant, a 6-foot-4 woman who passed singing muster, a "giraffe." Then there were the actual animals — a Chihuahua and a Pomeranian — brought along for the ride.


I thought he looked a bit like Peter Lorrie (Casablanca to name a movie). Simon is so mean.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2007/01/18/entertainment/e053243S09.DTL

FOX is losing its MO.