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marano35 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:19 PM
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Repubs and Media want Clinton or Obama ....
to be the Democratic candidate for President because they are the TWO MOST BEATABLE, they do not want Edwards who is who we should all get together and back, if Gore is not running we will need to find a suitable vice presidential candidate and it is not one of these two nor Clark, nor Kucinich...but mark my words they will slay Obama...remember Ford in Tenessee not to mention what they will do to Hillary. I am writing this after reading the poll PICK YOUR PAIR post and not being able to believe what I was seeing. Obama though he may be a good man stands the same chance of winning the Presidential election as I do and if he gets the nomination we might as well get ready for McCain or that idiot ex mayor Guilianni or however you spell it after eight years of Bush.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:21 PM
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1. I'm sorry - for personal reasons, I can't back Edwards.
But, I do agree with you on the Clinton and Obama thing, even though I happen to like Obama.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:28 PM
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2. I support Edwards
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 10:32 PM by benny05
And agree that the MSM is very taken with Obama and Hillary. However, if those two want to run, let 'em and let the best person in the Democratic field win the nomination.

Edwards is off to an excellent start in Iowa. He's at the top of the list over Obama and Hillary with a double digit lead.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1236



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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:29 PM
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3. I don't agree,. The repugs know Hillary and Edwards and how to attack them
They are curious about Obama and are trying to find some weak point. They don't care who we run and are not afraid of any of our guys. That is really silly. Just as we view the repugs candidates and laugh at them they do the same with all of our guys.
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marano35 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:35 PM
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4. Give me a break...
they KNOW how to attack Obama they have already been doing it....comparing his name to OSAMA, oh and did you forget he is Black, in case you have not noticed we have not had a Black President yet...oh wait yeah we did... on 24..oh yeah we all agreed that is fiction... and we have not had a Woman President yet either....people...even good people resist change...and if we fail to realize this and nominate either of these fine people at this critical point in time...we have done it to ourselves. Edwards is intelligent, likable and sincere... or just what we need to run against the best candidates they have to offer.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:40 PM
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5. But, they are not scared of him. that is wishful thinking.
the republicans view our guys the same as we view thiers and they are not scare of anyone.
I didn't say they did not attack but, are looking for ways to do the most damage.
Don't flatter yourself into thinking the republicans are shaking in thier wingtips at the thought of Edwards. They are not shaking at the thought of ANYONE>
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:55 PM
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11. the way to insure that no woman or black won't be elected....
is not to nominate a woman or a black!

I: don't think Hillary is electable, but it is not because she is a woman. I'm sorry, but if you take a look at Obama it is pretty apparent that this guy is not going to alienate anyone on the basis of his race except the die-hards of the Republican Party who wouldn't vote Democratic anyway....and, perhaps, the timid Democrats who, like their Republican counterparts, would not vote for a black either for their nominee. Convenient....some of us can reject a candidate on the basis of their race and blame it on the Republicans! Quite frankly, Obama is not necessarily my first choice...but I am getting tired of some Democrats making race an issue in his campaign. Obama can win. He can attract independents and young voters to the voting booths in droves. He has an optimism that transcends the race issue as well as party lines. The MSM may have propped Obama up, but perhaps they underestimated him.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:44 PM
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6. With Obama, we will be hearing 24/7 about his past cocaine use
Hillary, well, I don't believe she can win PERIOD.

I will take Edwards in a heartbeat.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:03 AM
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12. with Edwards, all we will be hearing 24-7 is that....
...he is a rich lawyer. Worked before. I am sure they will use the word lawyer and Edwards in the same breath continuously throughout the campaign. Then, of course, anything Edwards says will be seen as "slick".
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:28 AM
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13. Actually that backfired on the republicans in his Senate
race....will do so again. Read his book "Four Trials" :hi:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:50 AM
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15. And how badly Edwards Flip Flopped on the war.
There he goes again. Whichever way the wind blows that is.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:54 PM
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7. Isn't Edwards a little fluffy??
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:15 PM
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8. Here's a thought: What they want does NOT matter.
This is how democracy works: WE choose a candidate who suits US, fits OUR beliefs, OUR values, and present that candidate to the entire nation. Then the ENTIRE NATION chooses.

All the rest is them trying out fancy footwork to get you dizzy.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:17 PM
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9. I'm extremely suspicious of anyone they try to frame as our candidate...
...and Senator Clinton was who they chose for us over a year ago. That means that either they are convinced they can beat her or that she will do what they want, and I'm not taking the bait.
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dk2 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:38 PM
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10. Edwards is on the issues important to me
and many others. I am thrilled with his Universal Health care to include Mental Illnesses and the no draft - keeping the all volunteer military.
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generaldemocrat Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:30 AM
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14. If you people want to win the general election, you vote for the GENERAL.
Clark is the best chance we have at flipping red states.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:53 AM
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16. This Is The Corporate Media's "American Idol"
or maybe it's "Survivor". Until a vote is cast in a primary, all this speculating and grandstanding and spinning and anal-yizing is just a game. It's the "hot stove" league for the punditocracy...before the real season begins and where any team or player can do or be anything. It opens up the door to lots of personal spinning and emotions, but little else...and that's what the corporate media wants.

Sure, they want a horse race between Hillary and Barak. It'll draw eyeballs and allows all the Hillary and Clinton haters some play time. Tweety can't do a show without some kind of Hillary "anal-ysis" that always turns into a bashing session. Obama's his dream...his anti-Hillary. It's all one dimensional...but so is your TV picture tube.

The game to watch over the next months is the money. A case study was how boooshie spent most of '99 just hauling in the cash and assembling the players to steamroll to the nomination. Steamroll? He and his henchmen outright bought it. Soon we'll be hearing whose got the cash and who doesn't and then the game will start to change. By this time next year, we'll know whose "legit" and the polls will start to reflect that and the pundits will follow along.

This year will be an interesting one. While the Democratic race will get the corporate media's attention, the real game will be for the "heart" (if such a thing exists) of the remnants of the Repugnican party. Who will represent the future face of that party. The game is also gonna be on the state and local level as the parties look to slate candidate for next year's election and to target vulnerable districts. How many of these Repugnicans can "stand tall" with booshie or how will they try to cover their asses.

While it's gonna be interesting to see which candidate emerges from the Democratic field, the splintering of the right will be ther real story that begins to emerge. I like to point out how many at this point in early '91 thought Bill Clinton would not only be the nominee, but win. The corporate media was still all over Mario Cuomo.

Sit back and enjoy the show...

:popcorn:
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