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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:08 PM
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OMG! SUNUNU SAYS HE WILL BREAK WITH BUSH!!!
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 11:09 PM by berni_mccoy
Ok, let me give some background. Every issue that has come up in the past 6 years that I've written about to this BushBot, I got a response letter that read like it was written by Karl Rove himself.

Sununu is wrapped up in the Abramoff Scandal to boot.

And now he says (as reported on WMUR, NH's ABC station) he can't support an increase in troops!?!?!?! WTF?!?!

Hell must be in the Atlantic because it's getting the same incredible ICE STORM we just got here in NH!!!!
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:09 PM
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1. What's daddy gonna say?
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:14 PM
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13. Probably the same thing Daddy Bush is saying...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 04:37 PM
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68. Right.
Exactly.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:10 PM
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2. At least he won't be part of the shit storm egh?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:11 PM
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3. My mouth is open wide, startled. Jaw on the floor.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:11 PM
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4. Good lord. This is the first time I've thought impeachment was actually a possibility
They really are all leaping off the ship...

Jr. will be going plainly bonkers for all to see, soon enough...
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:16 AM
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45. Impeachment is possible. "Off the table" IMO is just politics
If Harry Reid tells Pelosi there are the votes in the senate, IMO, there will be an impeachment resolution introduced in the house in less than a week.

Impeaching these guys for fun, like the pugs did Clinton isn't worthwhile. They have to be removed or there is no point in it.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:11 PM
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58. Absolutely! When we have the Senate, Impeachment can begin n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:11 PM
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5. And he's got three times the number of 'u's in his name...!
I'm putting money on his being worried about what's going to come out of all the investigations and he's trying to hedge his bets, for mercy if nothing else.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:11 PM
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6. WOWZA!
:wow:

Now that means Bush's ass kissers are really starting to take him on. :wow:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:13 PM
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7. Olympia Snowe of Maine has gone against him too!
For the first time in a long time, she's done something right and I intend to write and thank her.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:16 PM
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15. I already have.
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 11:22 PM by charles t

(written her, that is.)

I would imagine she would appreciate any words of appreciation.

Maybe this can keep rolling and get up to 60-40 or so. If anything is going to happen regarding funding, this non-binding resolution, much easier, needs a decisive win.

These GOP votes are essential, because without any, the vote would be a sure loss. (Lieberman for sure, and possibly Ben Nelson would be voting for the escalation.)
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:19 PM
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19. Excellent. I'd better get on it, then
before she changes her minD. :toast:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 04:36 PM
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66. If nelson does I hope he
gets his ass in sling because of it. lieman has been lost to the mfbush cabal forever.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:39 PM
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33. Ask her to switch parties while you are at it.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:45 PM
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I have asked her over the years to do a lot of things
and she is a Republican through and through. I am not certain what makes her "moderate" unless it's gestures like this one, made once a decade, when public opinion so presses that she believes she has no choice. She would not switch parties, in other words.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:40 AM
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49. What's the matter with Maine?
Seriously, TWO Repug Senators in a Northeastern state??
:wtf:
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:13 PM
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8. Please post the test of the letter
remove names, but I'd love to hear it
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:13 PM
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9. Y'know, he does face the voters in 656 days (nt)
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 10:18 AM
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52. Bingo. He needs to umm, "revise" his image. (NT)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:14 PM
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10. He's as craven as his daddy, but he doesn't pester women like his paw did.
So he must be the new, improved model by comparison. Opportunism, it's in the genes, I guess...

You didn't lose power, I take it--lucky break--some of those poor folks were having it rough.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:14 PM
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11. OMG... Bush is finished!!!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:41 PM
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59. Calm down, folks. This is bargaining.
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 12:41 PM by Orsino
The calls to end the war having grown too loud to ignore, they will let themselves be talked out of another escalation in order to maintain the status quo. Meanwhile, discussion of pulling the plug completely on the war has been effectively derailed, and a few Republicans appear to have distanced themselves from Loser Boy while still supporting the same corporate masters.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:14 PM
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12. OK so now we have
Hagel
Snowe
Sununu

Who else?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:21 PM
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Brownback, Gordon Smith.....
nt
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:22 PM
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21. Thanks! I'd forgotten about Smith,
and I didn't know about Brownback.

So

Smith
Brownback
Hagel
Snowe
Sununu.......... so far......!
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:30 PM
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29. Add Coleman to that list
Used to be a total Bushbot and now he is running away.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:36 PM
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31. "running away" ...
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 11:37 PM by janx
:rofl: I love it!


Coleman
Smith
Brownback
Hagel
Snowe
Sununu
Voinovich (?) from downthread
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:41 PM
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34. finally they can learn from the election what they failed to in 6 years
licking the f'wad that is bush.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:51 PM
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62. If Snowe goes, so does Collins
Count on it!!

And as to the poster above who asked "What's with Maine having two GOP Senators?" All I got to say is 1) we're tryin' and 2) remember the story of Margaret Chase Smith and Tail-Gunner Joe? Didn't work out for Joe then and it won't for Bush now. Strap in folks, the dam she is a burstin'.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:15 PM
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14. Like dominoes falling after they lined up so nicely.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:16 PM
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16. Some Rs in Congress are like canaries in the coal mine
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:46 PM
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38. And some Rs in Congress are up for election in '08.
eom
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:57 AM
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51. which wwwwaaaayyyy do they turn
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:17 PM
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17. There's a lot more of this kind of jaw-dropping news ...
... on its way.

After the trouncing they took in the mid-terms, Republicans finally woke up to the facts: Stick with BushCo, you're out. Come over to the other side, you might -- might -- have a chance at political survival.

You know the old sayin' about being caught between Iraq and a hard place!

(God forgive me, but I'm just loving this crap!)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:21 PM
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20. "might" - I'd love to see him defeated
The term flip-flopper comes to mind as a campaign slogan against him. Helped w get us into the mess and then bailed.

I can at least donate to his opponent from afar!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:38 PM
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32. Yeah, the "might" is pretty farfetched ...
... but we can all enjoy the Eddy Haskell performances that are sure to be plentiful in the months to come.

"Oh, and did I mention what a lovely dress you're wearing today, Madam Speaker Pelosi?"

:rofl:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:44 PM
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35. Eddy Haskell?!
Oh, I love that reference. Smarminess in training!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:46 PM
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37. OOOOPS!!!!
Gave away my age there, huh? Wonder how many of our younger DU family members are Googling right about now ...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:49 PM
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41. It'll be good for them. Eddy is an education!
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:22 AM
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46. Madame Speaker Cleaver ..I mean Pelosi, you look wonderful
Have you changed your hairstyle?

This crap from the same cretins who introduced a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning this past summer.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:49 AM
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50. What's sad is that we have people in our own party who did
the same thing and are now running in the Dem presidential primary.

:eyes:
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:26 PM
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25. yr gonna be burning thru the keyboards in '07, gal . . .
:bounce:

too much fun . . . .
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:27 PM
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26. She HAS forgiven us...
;-)
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:18 PM
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18. Sununu ? thats a lebanese name ?
(after google) , oh so he's a senator...

Any other repugs jumping ship ?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:24 PM
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23. Wait till tomorrow. I understand there will be many more.
Maybe Friday will be the most! That is the day of the week when people do stuff they don't really want a lot of people to notice ya know.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:45 PM
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36. Not only are we going to notice....
We're going to billboard it everywhere! Oh yeah.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #23
65. On the West Wing they refer to Friday it as "take out the trash day"
The assumption is that people don't watch the news on Friday night.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:30 PM
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30. Voinovich (sp?) is also intermittently apoplectic.
Five or ten more and we have not only a veto override capable majority, but an impeachment capable one.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:59 PM
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43. Watch for Lott to jump ship.
Revenge is sweet...
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #43
71. Lott is such a hare brained idiot, an empty headed sooodough
intellectual, that if he jumps ship, besides being a liability for us, he'd probably miss the dock.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #18
55. I believe he's Lebanese-Irish Catholic
This isn't the first time he's gone against his party or his president. It helps that he's from NH. Either way, let's beat him in 2008.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Sununu

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/John_Sununu.htm
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:21 AM
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56. I believe he's Lebanese-Irish Catholic
This isn't the first time he's gone against his party or his president. It helps that he's from NH. Either way, let's beat him in 2008.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Sununu

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/John_Sununu.htm
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:23 PM
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22. Bush is single-handedly destroying the Repub party
The only positive thing for his legacy.
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #22
53. Is the GOP destroying itself or saving itself?
I think most GOPpers didn't even recognize their own party in the last 5 years.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:25 PM
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24. Amazing how a looming election focuses one on survival n/t
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:27 PM
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27. Yup, 08's coming up pretty soon for him!
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 11:29 PM by calipendence
This is why I say that impeachment with conviction is not impossible. In addition to some other on-the-fence Republicans not up for re-election, we have 21 targets up for re-election in 2008 to go after that could be faced with either joining with the Dems on impeachment or getting booted out of office!

New Hampshire also just became significantly more of a blue state in 2006 as well!
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:10 AM
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54. Question about 2008
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 11:39 AM by Rebel_with_a_cause
I've heard it's 28 repub senate seats up for grabs, 6 dem seats. Is that right? If so, the GOP knows it's toast and will go the way of fellow Congressmen if it does not abide constituents.

On edit: I think I found the answer to my question:

17 GOP senate seats will be open and 10 dem seats. W/Allard (R-CO) retiring, that makes it 18 - 10 R - D seats open in 2008.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:08 PM
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57. It's 21 Republicans vs. 12 dems

I guess you should think of Rush's old 2112 album to keep the numbers in your head... :)

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/two_column_table/Class_II.htm

In 2010 it is then 19 Republicans and 15 Dems.

It isn't until 2012 that there will be 22 Dems along with 2 independents vs. 9 Republicans. Hopefully we can get rid of the independent how's last name begins with an L then!
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #57
60. Excellent reference and score card
not to mention, predictor of repub behavior, though Lindsey Graham (SC) and John Cornyn (TX) still think they're base is strong. They'll learn. :)

I can't WAIT for Chambliss to get voted out.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:28 PM
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28. Not as hard as it appears. */Jr. fired Sununu's father on behalf of GHWB. n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:47 PM
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39. Payback... This time, it's for real!
Republican style.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:48 PM
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40. For more good news, check out this thread!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3144321

:wow:
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:49 PM
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42. Well at the end of the day they are cowards any way...
They are taking a stand agaisnt Bush now when it really has no consequence. They can vote to not support the president and get cudos for doing so but it makes no difference as Bush is going to do what he has funding for already and they can do nothing to stop him from what I understand. Now if they want to get behind articles of Impeachment then we can say they are being courageous!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:05 AM
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44. Herd's actin nervous. Might could be they're gonna stampede ...
... if anybody accidental rode up behind em whoopin and hollerin, y'know ...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:54 PM
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63. LOL!
:D
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:35 AM
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47. Until all these Repukes put their votes where their mouths are, I
see this as nothing but a bunch of pandering to the middle, in an effort to cover their own asses. Hagel and Snowe I can respect, because they're willing to actually back up the rhetoric with their vote. How many of these other Repukes are going to do the same?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:38 AM
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48. Don't get all warm and fuzzy over Sununu.
He's trying to save his hide. Candidates are lining up to oppose him in 2008 and the state has gone blue. He's got no choice if he wants to try to keep his job.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:45 PM
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61. No warm and fuzzies here... just astonishment...
the guy has been an absolute bushbot... guess he got tired of sinking with the ship.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 04:01 PM
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64. Eventually all the rats go over the side. nt
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 04:37 PM
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67. He's up for re-election in 2008
Notice that Gordan Smith, who's also up, is trying to distance himself as well.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 04:41 PM
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69. Now, I really want to see a 65-32 vote on the resolution next week.!!!
Then OUR Democracy would have spoken. What the fuck would pretend war president say then?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 04:41 PM
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70. Calm down
The escalation of the war in Iraq or the widening of it into Iran is such a loony idea that that no sane person could support it.

Most white collar cirminals are sane. Unlike Dick Cheney, who is also a sane white collar criminal, Sununu probably isn't directly profiting from this maess. The only thing supporting escalation/widening is going to cost him is votes, not a fatter retirement from Halliburton.
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