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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:29 PM
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Message to Hillary Clinton. We need more than "puny opposition" to this war.
A simple message. Please feel free to endorse this even if you might support Hillary Clinton if she runs for President. In fact, those who feel she would be a good candidate and good for the country ought to be the first to call on Ms. Clinton to take further action to stop this war, otherwise she will damage her credibility among many democrats and many Americans beyond repair of even the most well-funded campaign.

This is only meant to urge her to take further steps to end this war and occupation.

While Clinton rightfully called President Bush’s plan to send more troops to Iraq “a losing strategy” and proposed placing new limits on the White House’s conduct of the war, she did reject, however, taking steps to end the occupation, only saying vaguely that US troops should be withdrawn "eventually", whatever that means. She opposes ending funding for the war. She opposes “finger-pointing, hot rhetoric” on Iraq, a war of aggression that has cost hundreds of thousands of lives, hundreds of billions of dollars, and has throughly disgraced America in the eyes of a majority of the world's people. Ms. Clinton, "hot rhetoric" has not done the damage, the Bush administration's criminal activities has created this atrocity, and the silence and acquiescence of too many in Congress has permitted this to continue. It is not the time to wait for a good plan from George W. Bush. This is not the time for "puny opposition" that will allow this war to continue in one form or another.

Our message is simple Ms. Clinton. Say No to this war, standing by current troop levels is disgraceful, that was the Bush administration's stance on November 6, 2006, and the next day millions of Americans went to the polls and did all they could to repudiate it. It is not enough for you to say that America must not go deeper into the quagmire, you must state clearly that troops must be withdrawn quickly from this illegal war and occupation, this nightmare made in Washington with the complicity of too many people currently in office. We will not tolerate those who endorse the status quo. We demand an end to funding of this immoral, stupid, insane war.

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Frederick Douglass, former slave, extraordinary speaker and writer, wrote in his Rochester newspaper the North Star, January 21, 1848, of "the present disgraceful, cruel, and iniquitous war with our sister republic. Mexico seems a doomed victim to Anglo Saxon cupidity and love of dominion." Douglass was scornful of the unwillingness of opponents of the war to take real action (even the abolitionists kept paying their taxes):

The determination of our slaveholding President to prosecute the war, and the probability of his success in wringing from the people men and money to carry it on, is made evident, rather than doubtful, by the puny opposition arrayed against him. No politician of any considerable distinction or eminence seems willing to hazard his popularity with his party ... by an open and unqualified disapprobation of the war. None seem willing to take their stand for peace at all risks; and all seem willing that the war should be carried on, in some form or other.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:31 PM
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1. Didn't she just say she supported a phase withdrawal?
:shrug:
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:33 PM
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2. To end ... When? This July? 2008? 2012? 2020?
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:35 PM
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3. We need a non hollywood actor , we need Al Gore.
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 05:36 PM by orpupilofnature57
The closest we could come to a major Change, for the Better.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:40 PM
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4. I would like to feel more positively about Hillary Clinton.
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 05:42 PM by patrice
I need her to open up her thinking that resulted in her Yes on 114.

Was she really so stupid as not to see what so many others could see?

Or did she see what was going on and took a calculated risk for a "win win". Read that, If Bush is wrong she wins, because she gets to complain about how BushCo carried the project out; if Bush is right she wins, because she gets to say she voted for "freeing" Iraq.

When it's all really about controlling the economic rise of China by controlling a big oil-spigot. And whatever benefit the U.S. might have acquired from that spigot is now completely offset by the harm done to others and to this country.

................................

Hare Krsna!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:43 PM
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5. Barack Obama entering the race is good for Hillary and Edwards --
(not to mention Bill Clinton)
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:48 PM
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6. The point should be to end the war. any candidate should be unequivocal on that issue.
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:49 PM
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7. You break it.......you own it! So said Powell to Bush before the
invasion.
Now the US must put it on the credit card.
The next administration/s are going to have to sort it out.
Remember, they can only do what is possible.
Creating another distractive mess is not the answer.
There are no painless answers. Humpty Dumpty is all broked.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:52 PM
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8. The US does not own Iraq. Powell was wrong. again.
The US does owe reparation money to the people of Iraq. The US must not continue to illegally occupy Iraq.
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:55 PM
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9. The cost to the US will be as if it was purchased.
Powell was just dumbing it down to a suitable level.
You get the idea.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:15 PM
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11. Colin Powell's sense of Devotion was the only reason he subjected himself
to the Bush league antics as long as he did ,one of 5 great republicans in history.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:57 PM
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10. I absolutely agree we need to get out of Iraq immediately.
Most of the Dems seem to be signing on to various forms of plans for phased withdrawal, with the exception of Dennis Kucinich. What further exacerbates my rage toward this war is the fact that BushCo is setting it up to be THE campaign issue for 2008 rather than sticking a fork in it now. I am hopeful the congressional investigations on CSPAN will shame all concerned into making it end sooner than later.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:31 PM
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12. Should have been out yesterday.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:52 PM
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13. should never have gone in the first place
* sigh *
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