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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:55 PM
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CNN says movies with female heroines cause increase in
violent acts by girls.

Guess CNN thinks we need better role models for them in the media.

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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:56 PM
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1. surely you jest
:rofl:

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right?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:56 PM
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2. Does CNN say it? Or does someone they had on as a guest say it? NT
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:57 PM
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4. It was their report on violence among females I don't know if the person

talking worked for them or not.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:57 PM
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3. How the Hell do you measure something like that? And how do movies
with male heroes affect violent acts by boys?

Not to mention dumbass violent presidents?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:57 PM
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5. Did they give examples? What films in particular?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:58 PM
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6. Kill Bill, Tomb Raider, and video games
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:00 PM
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12. so they mention 2 movies that are about 4 years old
OK, I see their point. :eyes:
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:00 PM
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13. How many children have seen "Kill Bill"?
:eyes:
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:11 PM
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27. oh, youd be surprised
some asshole parents took 4 kids under 10 to see 'the departed' the night it opened
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:59 PM
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7. So girls are running around trying to blast Aliens?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:04 PM
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20. Or taking out cave monsters with ice axes- or their bare hands!
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 02:05 PM by depakid
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:59 PM
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8. What do they consider a "heroine"? And can they prove causation?
This sounds like right-wing claptrap to me. More the-society-is-going-to-hell-in-a-handbasket talk. :eyes:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:00 PM
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9. girls have statistically become more violent. wouldnt hurt us as a
society to reflect and learn
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:40 PM
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32. As long as we are willing to reflect and learn
about how media also impacts the behavior of boys.

I thought most people here didn't believe violence in movies and video games affected people.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:51 PM
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33. well, i do. but then i guess i am not most people. powergirls
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 02:52 PM by seabeyond
a cartoon. i never let boys watch. people would say but but but they are the heroes, they do good. empower females. i told them.... they have an angry face... always. and resolves all thru kicking ass. never niceness never crack a smile, the faces are always angry. i wont condition boys with that. ed ed and eddy and sponge bob. neither did i allow. it honored stupid. made stupid funy, ok. i have never found stupid funny. johnny bravo.... a sexist, demeaning show to females even though he was presented as stupid. with females going around slapping the guy. that had all the mix in it. and for kids, little kids.

on the other hand, dora, little bear ect.... was about caring, kindness, goodness. i allowed and encouraged those shows and we would talk them out, about how behavior like that is a plus for society

now. if i feel a show can be a positive influence. why in the world, in honesty, wouldnt a show be a negative influence.

but yes reflect and learn. it is not the only thing that creates. it is just one of the ingredients in the whole mix. a kid that has reflective connected parents isnt going to be effected the same. all kinds of factors are in play
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:39 PM
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37. As a society...
we have a myriad of ways to undervalue women and girls. Violence is *'s solution to everything, maybe people (including girls) follow his example.

Bill
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:47 PM
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38. i certainly agree. that is what i have seen the last handful of years.
i believe this beat 'em up mentality of our adults feed our children. my post delving more into it, i made clear, there is not just one reason, a whole lot that i see is feeding this.

i agree
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:00 PM
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10. Got a link for that?
I'd like to see what they have to say.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:02 PM
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17. no link on their site, I'm sure they will run the thing again
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:00 PM
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11. CNN says?
Who on CNN? When on CNN?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:01 PM
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14. about 4 minutes ago around 12:55 CST n/t
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:04 PM
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22. Who said it? If it was important enough for you to post an alert on DU
about it, then I assume you must have paid attention to who it was as well as the context in which it was said. No?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:07 PM
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23. I posted what they said, I couldn't care if people on CNN have names, let alone what their
names are.
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citygal Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:01 PM
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15. I hold B*sh responsible. His response to anything is violence. Period.
No talking, no diplomacy. I have also seen that violent crime has increased in the past two years, according to the FBI stats. Even though some crimes have declined (like sexual assault, burglary, etc.), the more violent crimes (murder) have increased for the first time in about ten years.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:02 PM
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16. Uh-huh
"Violent acts" like, say, fighting back against abusive boyfriends and potential date-rapists?

Shut up, CNN, or Buffy may have to kick your ass.

:mad:
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:02 PM
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18. I don't know if either end of the spectrum
is necessarily a good thing be it hostility or passivity, but could they be more specific? Such as, what movies, what observations etc...
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:03 PM
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19. Shirley, you jest!!!
KABLAAAAM!!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:04 PM
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21. We can't have tough strong women fighting back
:sarcasm:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:08 PM
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24. Yeah but I can throw a dish and cut a muvafuckas head off. So that won't work..
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:08 PM
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25. Yeah, you can trace "Girls Gone Wild" to "Thelma and Louise". n/t
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:09 PM
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26. Watching UltraVoilet causes voilent acts by everyone
So there, CNN!
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:12 PM
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28. Yeah, like all those insurance-related seduction/murders after "Double Indemnity."
Damn you, Barbara Stanwyck, think of the children!!!!
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:15 PM
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29. Is there an increase in violent acts by girls or are we paying more attention to them?
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 02:16 PM by Sapere aude
After dad went off to work and the kids went to school the Stepford wife's started hitting the bottle and began throwing the pots and pans around the house pissed off at their plight in life. So then they went to work were they could live as equals to their husbands but were again treated as second class humans. Hell that would piss anyone off. Acts of violence caused by decent roll models? I don't think so.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:29 PM
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30. The concept of strong women doesn't have to mean violent women
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 02:33 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
To me, Eleanor Roosevelt is a bigger heroine than Bonnie Parker. And the same thing goes for the concept of the strong man. MLK had the strength of a 100 men. I don't know if movies are getting more violent and if that is having an effect on society. I don't know whether a video of girls beating up another girl on Youtube marks a trend in the greater society or is just an example of aberrant behavior sensationalized by a media hungry for sensationalist stories. I just know that a true hero or heroine to me is someone who uses their strength of heart and mind, instead of their gun or their fists. I don't know if those qualities are admired today, however.
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:39 PM
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31. Am I the only one here who remembers
the Cleopatra-inspired asp murders of the mid-60s?

Damn you, Liz Taylor!

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:53 PM
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34. ...the fsck?!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:58 PM
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35. Typical media 'causality' bullshit.
So, do sitcoms make Americans funnier? (The Eisenhower era would seem to disprove that.)

Has anyone seen an increase in one-eyed people walking around after the "Kill Bill" movies?

:eyes:
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cdnwannabe Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:17 PM
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36. There are literally millions of examples of girls raised watching...
violent movies and boys playing violent video games who grew up to be perfectly normal and not prone to violent behavior. The difference = participatory parenting!!!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:55 PM
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39. Also movies about real heroic news networks
based on the ethos of integrity cause CNN to curl up in the fetal position and make pee pee.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:02 PM
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40. What about the 1970s?
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 05:09 PM by genie_weenie
Police Woman with Angie Dickinson and Foxy Brown with Pam Grier.
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