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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:32 PM
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Poll question: Who is calling the shots in our Middle East policy: Saudi Arabia or Big Oil?
I heard Greg Palast on a Pacifica show recently say Saudi summoned Cheney to tell him the US can't pull out because it would give control of Iraq's oil to Saudi's OPEC rival, Iran.

Palast is a real groundbreaker on a lot of topics, but like the debate about Israel a while back, I wonder whether Saudi is really the tail or the dog.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:34 PM
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1. I would think they'd have the same goals at the moment.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:34 PM
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2. So, you are drawing a distinction between the Saudis and big oil?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:36 PM
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4. Right.
I voted for the last answer--just because--but the real answer is a combination of 1&2.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:47 PM
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9. no, but the point of question was focus of attention could be shifted to saudi and off big oil
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:19 PM
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14. The Saudis own a large interest in the US-based oil multinationals along with
the biggest banks, such as Citicorp.

Hard to tell them apart, really.

There are factions within global capital, of course, and they do have quarrels with each other. World Wars One and Two, for instance. :nuke: :nuke:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:34 PM
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3. You missed one BOTH
:)
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:37 PM
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5. Israel and the U.S. ....n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:41 PM
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8. Yup- Just look at this picture of Bush playing kissy-poo with his longtime pal, the Prince of Israel
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Lord Byron Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:48 PM
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10. Actually that's a common custom of the gulf countries
They also hold hands. That doesn't prove anything. Not to deny that he's in bed with the Saudis, but your point is rather culturally insensitive.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:01 PM
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12. now if Bush was kissing his ring or his feet...that would be be different.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 06:12 PM
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15. I think that picture speaks for itself.
If that makes me culturally insensitive, so be it.

For some reason, though, I don't think a picture of, say, Bill Clinton kissing Nelson Mandela on the cheek would carry the same ominous implications.
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Lord Byron Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:40 PM
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6. A broad coalition
Some corporations, some foreign interests, some ideologues.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:40 PM
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7. They're one and the same.
And they're both calling the shots.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:54 PM
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11. In symbiosis...
it's an irrelevant question.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:03 PM
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13. This poll is bullshit -- it is PNAC and the Neocons controlling Middle East Policy.
Wake up.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:31 PM
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16. you think the people with money in this country would let ideologues go off on a wild hare?
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