Democrats.com: "Is Karl Rove Planning a Terror Attack on the Super Bowl?"

From link:
Bob Fertik asks, "is Karl Rove planning a terrorist attack during the Super Bowl, in order to set the stage for building towards war with Iran over the coming year?"

Let's pray he isn't planning such an attack, but there are plenty of reasons to fear that he might be - starting with Bush's dismal polls, bottomless Republican scandals, serious Senate hearings on NSA wiretapping, November's Congressional elections, and of course all of the Iraq War provocations and lies.


http://www.democrats.com/rove-super-bowl

what her fellow teachers told her, that there might be a terrorist attack!

I told her the only terror would be Joey Porter and Troy Polamalu attacking the Seahawk offense :-).

GO STEELERS!

They let Americans burn in New York (WTC) and drown in New Orleans.

that would be perfect excuse for corporate fascist media to not cover obvious impeachable offense. Terror terror terror.

edit to add that I pray this doesn't come to pass but these fascists have already demonstrated their evil ways. 9/11 mihop/lihop,Torture, no child left behind, wmd, stolen election 2000, diebold et al 2004, Valerie Plame, medicare, abramoff, scooter, jeff gannon, swift boat, paid propagandists, etc., etc., etc. I could go on and on as most of you know.

Kick and reccomend to keep this out there as a pre-emptive warning/enlightenment if you will.

and our predictions don't happen...

However, Renta-Boogeyman always seems to pop up just when he's needed.

it's terrible that there's a DOUBLE fear:

- fundamentalist terrorists
- neocons who facilitate the terrorists for their own gain.

It's a sad time.

That would mean that RIGHT NOW things are happening to set up for such a thing.

What would those measures be?

but I know what you're hinting at.

I hope we're wrong.

very much.

Sacrificial lamb?

But you know, Detroit's suburbs have the largest grouping of people of Arabic descent in the country. It would be easy to use them as scapegoats.

and a very close friend of mine is a Sargent on the Detroit Police force. I spent a portion of last weekend in the area of the Super bowl, there were some roads blocked off but other than that I saw no signs of any extraordinary measures taken (no helicopters, no police cars, none on foot). Coming back across the border from Canada I wasn't even asked for ID and I had been hassled two previous times by US Customs.

When I asked my friend if they were worried about a terrorist attack, I got no answer at all from him. He only asked if I was taking my son down for the activities. I really don't know what to think of his non-answer.

You are correct that Detroit has the largest concentration of Arabs outside the middle east and I think that if terror attacks were such a big threat to us from the Arabs, that they wouldn't wait until now. Detroit just has too many good targets, Eastern Market, the Renascence Center, Greek Town.. GM, Ford and chrysler.. the list goes on and on.

If something does happen down there this weekend, I'll know it was bush and his buddies.

It is however refreshing to see a speculative prophecy that doesn't have an open ended time frame.

is losing it. This constant inflation of Rove into some sort of uber powerful shadow president is delusional. Now if he's said that Cheney was planning......

He is a very lucid, rational, well educated individual-- if he is posting this shit there is cause for alarm because he is no crack pot.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x292320

The league has replaced CSC with three smaller firms: S.A.F.E. Management and Guardian Corporation, both out of Detroit, and the North Carolina-based Alpha Protection Group. But they don't have the manpower of CSC, which manages 19 of the NFL's 32 stadiums, and have had to subcontract out to other security firms.

Theres No website for or any info on Alpha Protection Group.

The WTC replaced its original elevator maintenance firm (Otis) with the mysterious ACE, which went out of business shortly after 9/11.

About 80 ACE technicians were on the premises that morning, and all of them escaped without injury--they just left and went home, in violation of emergency procedures.

They have the media, the congress, the supreme court and the voting mechanism in their pocket. There is no need.

for their bogus argument and also as I said earlier a perfect excuse for corporate fascist media to ignore the hearings which will obviously expose the truth that the domestic spying is impeachable. Thats why imo.

will be allowed to rattle sabers so that the media can belittle them after the fact, and a few repubs will stray for a moment with serious faces, showing their "concern" for the constitution. But in the end, nothing will change. Bush will be exonerated and held up as a hero for taking extraordinary measures to assure our safety and security.

These kind of statements just benefit the Re pukes by giving them something to use as an example of the left being a bunch of wackos.

saying that they don't use terror threats 24/7 as their justifications?

edit for clarity

No, I'm not!

It's fucking embarrassing.

we needed to know about what happened?

label at anyone that actually raises legitimate questions about what happened on 9/11, of which there are too many to count..."9/11 Commission" notwithstanding.

He or she said, "These kind of statements just benefit the Re pukes by giving them something to use as an example of the left being a bunch of wackos."

The way I interpret that, as far as the context he or she said it, is that the poster is trying to help our situation by trying to keep us from looking so UTTERLY foolish with ridiculous posts about things like Rove creating a terrorist attack on the Super Bowl.

iamalevi2 is absolutely correct. Saying things like that only helps the cause of the repukes. It makes us look like imbeciles and like we're posting out of paranoia and desperation.

my prime suspect list, but I agree with the other poster who brought up Cheney - I wouldn't put anything past that monster. Of course, that puts me in direct opposition with the other 99% of this country that thinks he's the second coming, and a shoe-in for the presidency in 2008... :sarcasm:

Bruce Dern is ideally cast as Lander, a crazed Vietnam veteran, in Black Sunday. Lander joins terrorists Dahlia (Marthe Keller) and Fasil (Bekim Fehmu) in a plot to create a bloodbath at the annual Super Bowl. Piloting the ubiquitous Goodyear blimp, Lander is to ram the aircraft into the capacity Orange Bowl crowd, then fire thousands of poisoned darts into the fleeing spectators. Israeli military officer Kabakov (Robert Shaw) struggles to thwart Lander's plan before it comes to fruition. As unbelievable as it may sound on paper, Black Sunday is wholly credible on film. -- Hal Erickson
www.allmovie.com

It's very strange, I could have sworn the date on my DVD said 2000...but now I can't find my DVD...hmmm I smell a conspiracy to hide my DVD :D

Thanks for catching that for me.

Friends :D

Oh there it is (second edit)

Yep my DVD says first episode 2001. March though..that's before september 11th right? or have I lost my mind and fallen down a rabbit hole?

Guess no one in the WH ever watched that series either...it was probably hidden under the PDBs

don't get mad at me and correct me if I'm wrong. I was shocked when I saw that 4 minute clip of madmen,greedy
defense contractors who came on hard times due to a lack of evilmen in the world..

friends?

to be exact. Corrected above :D

it except to say the "NEOCONS PNAC-ers and CORPORATE DEFENSE CONTRACTORS"


Thanks Pro..

I dreamed last night that there was an attack on Superbowl Sunday. I blamed the dream on watching all that ABC coverage about Superbowl security--taking away mailboxes, the scuba divers, etc.

to worry about bullshit out of thin air like this.

and Zwahari, it seems like something is coming down pretty soon...Unfortunately with an Administration this evil, nothing is beyond the realm of possibility for them.

If they would steal an election or two, invade a soverign nation for lies and let 9/11 happen, as I think the evidence shows they may well have done, what wouldn't they do to retain power?

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Bushco probably know exactly when the next attack will happen and can schedule their propaganda and war plans around it (instead of actually stopping it).

And he's a nice, intelligent, responsible man.

but when you've been a DUer for a while you'll see that things start to happen that've been predicted here.

Almost as though Bushco is acting from a script.

DU was years or months ahead on...

No WMD in Iraq
No "cakewalk" in Iraq
Abuses at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib
Al-Qaeda #3 capture during '04 Dem Convention
Bin Laden '04 "October Surprise"
Plamegate
NSAgate etc etc

If you don't want to know how the world really works, I suggest you look away now...

Long time DU lurker. Remember all about the draft and the invasion of iran in June 05.

However, you've got a point. Maybe there needs to be a SPECULATION or Conspiracy Theory forum with a strong disclaimer attached. All I know is that in the past 5 years thinking the unthinkable has so often turned out to be true.

for the groups out there who want to make us look silly.

This would no doubt be the kind of thread that someone like the NY Post or any other of the extremely jealous neo-conservative groups would select as an example to make DU look like a bunch of paranoid conspiracy theorists, something which for the most part we are NOT.

I may be paranoid but am I paranoid ENOUGH?

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/13726487.htm

PHILADELPHIA - During the last few years, the NFL has tried to stage a more cost-efficient Super Bowl. But it could be playing with fire in its latest money-saving attempt.
The league has cut ties with the nationally respected security firm it has used for the last 29 Super Bowls, California-based Contemporary Services Corporation. It will go a less expensive route this year, hiring three smaller, less-experienced companies to handle security for Super Bowl XL next week in Detroit.
The league sure has picked a strange time to make a security switch of this magnitude, considering that next week's game will be played just a half-mile from an international border. (Detroit is across the river from Windsor, Ontario.) It also comes just three weeks after the latest taped threat of a terrorist attack by Osama bin Laden.
NFL sources told the Philadelphia Daily News that the league felt CSC, which is considered the top "big-event" security firm in the country, had become too pricey. The league challenged nearly $500,000 of its billing from CSC for last year's Super Bowl in Jacksonville, sources said.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48559
Super Bowl Sunday
terror chatter high
Release of al-Qaida tapes seen as tip on timing of future attacks

There is increased "chatter" in the terrorist world about a major new attack in the West – a sign often leading to an impending strike;

The date Feb. 5 has been specifically referenced in some of this chatter;

The date is significant to Osama bin Laden;

Much of the western world will be watching television that day;

The release of al-Qaida videotapes seems to provide clues about the dates of future attacks and, in this scenario, Feb. 5 becomes the most likely near-term terror strike date.
Terror attacks seem to follow the release of al-Qaida videos by about 30 days. Some intelligence analysts are noting the significance of the release of videos recently by both Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri

Going up against the security in place for the super bowl doesn't fit Al Qaeda's MO.

they had help and funding from * allies.

15 men and some boxcutters got them both the pentagon and the WTC.

not defenseless backwaters.

Ask yourself who funded them and facilitated their free pass in the USA?
Also, why have none of their other attacks been on the scale of 9/11?

they're more likely to go after another high profile target on Super Sunday because we're paying so much attention to the Super Bowl that day.

However, Super Sunday is purely American in nature. The WTC is not the highest profile target in NYC if you asked Americans. If you asked Americans prior to 9/11, they would have listed the Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty, Yankee Stadium, Rockefeller Center and a few other places before the WTC. However, outside the US, the WTC was a major symbol of US capitalism. Yankee Stadium means little to people outside the US, except maybe in Latin America where baseball is big.

that it's feasible that Bushco would let another terrorist attack happen if they thought they could gain from it.

(Aside from the actual specifics of when or where it might happen).

Most serious crimes are solved by following those who have motive.
Who has the most to gain?
A bunch of pissed-off fanatics or a cabal of power brokers desperately maneuvering to hold on to power?
Tough call.
Sounds like we'll need a video review.

Is that proof that Rove isn't actual masterminding terrorists assults? Or does that mean he just decided not to kill Americans at the super bowl?

Bryant
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That would be a good indicator, of an attack on the Super Bowl.

Along with whether Wealthy Elite BushCo. Financiers and Republican Members of Congress guarding, covering up, and preventing investigations that would lead to truth finally being "officially" revealed, will be in attendance at the Super Bowl.

Sweet Neo Con

You ride around your white castle,
On your little white horse
You lie to your people,
and blame it on your war of course
You call yourself a Christian,
I call you a hypocrite
You call yourself a patriot,
well I think you're full of sh*t

Oh, sweet Neo Con,
What path have you led them on?
Oh, sweet Neo Con,
Is it time for the atom bomb?
You parade around in costume,
Expecting to be believed
But as the body bags stack up,
We believe we've been deceived
The horror you've unleashed,
Will backfire with more grief
When will you ever learn,
Sweet Neo Con,
as the world burns?

Oh, sweet Neo Con,
What path have you led them on?
Oh, sweet Neo Con,
Is it time for the atom bomb?
Oh, sweet Neo Con,
What path have you led them on?
Oh, sweet Neo Con,
Is it time to drop the bomb?

How come you're so wrong?
My sweet neo-con,
where's the money gone,
in the Pentagon.
It's liberty for all,
democracy's our style,
unless you are against us,
then it's prison without trial.

corporate robots.

Thanks for the really silly post.

onenote

Think about it.

Perhaps...but anyone who has taken a look at the 9/11 facts out there surely has good reason to question the "official" version of what happened. There are just too many coincidences here - could they ALL be coincidence?

is the illusion that he is tough on terror. He will not be able to defend his spying program anymore either.

"Yessiree ... we're keeping you safe, just like we told you we would. Now, who wants to tell me that domestic wiretapping is a bad thing?"

These things tend to come out of left field...

1. proximity to Canada, who could be blamed for 'letting the bad guys in'
2. huge concentration of arabs/muslims to blame it on as well
3. congressional hearings into spying soon/fitzgerald investigaton proceeding, both of which are potentially very damaging to bush and his minions. many have theorized that once the heat is on bush too much, the us would suffer an attack
4. that 'new security' thing is damned odd.
5. the US is far overdue for an al qaeda strike

They have slapped lipstick on this pig for the superbowl, but most of the country has no idea how closely Detroit remsembles Bahgdad when you get off the beaten path --it's a war zone looking place out in the neighborhoods.

The lower 9th ward was lovely compared to the shit I saw in detroit last summer when I worked there.

It's hideous.

looks like Detroit is supposed have a snowstorm tonight.

BushCo needs something to "explain" the next mid-term election theft.

The Super Bowl (coming after Alito was hurriedly confirmed, but before the NSA spying hearings) would be interesting timing.

I live in Pittsburgh. I'd say 80% of the people here are running around dressed in Black and Gold. I fear for the pro-war climate that would be Pittsburgh if there was a Super Bowl attack.

Were dealing with a group of wackos who bomb clinics and kill doctors to stop abortions.
I really hate this world, and I hate what I am becoming because of them. I can see Rove doing this remember he outed a female CIA agent. If he wanted to "silence" a woman who was doing her job he's capable of anything.

There was a brutal MIHOP terrorist attack in Detroit tonight, and all they can do is talk about the game!

This was a really busy thread yesterday.

Why is it nobody is concerned about this horrible threat anymore?

fuck the Steelers. The Seahawks got robbed and it wouldn't surprise me if Rove had something to do with the afficiaiting...Nice libreal town like Seattle and all.