If organized religion continues to push notions like ID parents should

heidler1

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Mon Jan-02-06 02:35 AM
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If organized religion continues to push notions like ID parents should

and many will turn away because the net result is non competitive kids who believe a lot of BS. There was a recent post here in that pointed out the backward level of education in the RED states which are also the most religious.

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WindRavenX

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Mon Jan-02-06 02:41 AM
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1. many colleges are just going to not accept kids who are taught ID

As they should, because kids who are not taught proper biological and even more basic remedial science skills will not be able to compete at a university level with respect to biology and medical knowledge.

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Arianrhod

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Mon Jan-02-06 02:45 AM
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2. If I found out that my doctor was an IDer

I'd drop him like a hot rock.

I don't need voodoo, I need medical professionalism!

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WindRavenX

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Mon Jan-02-06 02:47 AM
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3. exactly

Understanding genetics, and therefore pretty much ALL medical research and development of medicine, relies on an understanding on the mechanics of Mendelian genetics and by proxy evolution. You just can't do research saying "God" did it and not understanding the mechanism in nature that fuels evolution.

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Arianrhod

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Mon Jan-02-06 10:07 AM
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4. Absolutely.

Reading a good book right now, by Nobel Prize Laureate Gerald Edelman. Although it's actually an advance of a new theory of consciousness, he describes how the body functions by evolutionary mechanisms of selection. Without natural and somatic selection, we simply wouldn't last long in this world.

The book is called A Universe of Consciousness, if such interests you.

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MountainLaurel

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Mon Jan-02-06 09:11 PM
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7. Perfectly understandable

My husband knows that if I'm ever incapacitated, I don't want to go to the religious-affiliated university hospital nearest our home: I can't trust that my health will take precedence over their dogma.

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proud2BlibKansan

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Mon Jan-02-06 10:40 AM
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5. In a recent study of education nationwide,

Kansas was ranked #13.

That puts a slight twist in your claim about religion and red states.

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heidler1

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Mon Jan-02-06 04:13 PM
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6. IMO The trend is still obvious. I suspect that income levels would tend to

show the same trend. Of course there are other factors that cause this trend to be skewed, but in this case it is quite consistent. If this or any country truly wants to improve education the starting point IMO is to go with what works. If it fails to work try again with something else. To believe that some unprovable notion like ID will make education more competitive is living proof that many people want their own kids to believe the same BS that the parent believes so the kids will respect them. In todays world that just isn't good enough.

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wuushew

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Mon Jan-02-06 09:15 PM
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8. Do you have link to that study?

n/t

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proud2BlibKansan

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Mon Jan-02-06 09:39 PM
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10. yep

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/package.jsp?floc=ns-tos-feat-b-01&name=fte/smartstates/smartstates

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Mon Jan-02-06 09:26 PM
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9. And California was ranked one of the lowest in that survey,

something like 43 or 46 as I recall. Below Alabama.

So much for generalizations.

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