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casual hex Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 11:50 PM
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Did you catch war pimp Tim Russert this morning?
War pimp Russert was interviewing Boehnert this morning, and came up with this gem. From the transcript:

MR. RUSSERT: Iran: Is the United States prepared to take military action against Iran if they continue to insist on building nuclear weapons?

Oh really Mr Russert? Continue to insist on building nuclear weapons? Do you know something that the entire rest of the world does not know? Iran has NEVER said it wants to build nuclear weapons, never mind insisted on building them or saying it insists on building them (although if they had any sense they would be working on them 24/7 to fend off attacks sure to come from the malefic neocons.)

In fact, Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The treaty consists of three pillars: nonproliferation, disarmament, and the right to peacefully use nuclear technology. This is a manufactured "crisis", dutifully stoked by the likes of Russert and his ilk in the disgusting American media.

But what should one expect from war pimp and General Electric rent boy Russert? GE stands to make billions more from war, both from the human destruction side in Iran, and on the propaganda delivery side through NBC. Good one Russert! Is the US prepared to action indeed.

One can only hope that, like Cheney and the others, the enablers like Russert reap the fruits of their labors when at last the focus of Karma's long orbit reaches Russert's door.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 11:55 PM
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1. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
All of us are supposed to be like the "Great Generation" and we need permanent war to make that so. So if Russert and his cronies say it often enough, America will act in a manner that assures Iran will react by building weapons. No one will ask the chicken or the egg question.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 12:00 AM
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2. So, Tim, are you still...
beating your wife?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 12:07 AM
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3. he beat his wife?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 12:10 AM
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4. See?
It's the question that matters, not the answer.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 12:12 AM
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6. dude, that was some Jedi mind shit
nicely done.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 04:09 AM
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11. I'd really like to go along with you...
about the Jedi mind shit, but since it's basically Russert's stock-in-trade, I'll have to say it's just what passes for politics, these days. And Russert is NO Jedi.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 12:22 AM
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7. that's the kind of twisted language that makes great newspaper corrections
"The Gazette incorrectly reported last week that the mayor has stopped beating his wife."
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 12:10 AM
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5. our media is filled with imbeciles
who lack the most basic understanding of the news commonly available. Here's a promo lead-in for CNN I heard today: "wiretapping of phone calls, an in-depth look at how it happened. Could it happen again?" WTF--happen again?? When did it end? No comprehension.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:12 AM
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casual hex Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 02:34 AM
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10. Can I pour you another glass?
What adds up to a problem is your ability to buy into the war machine propaganda.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 09:40 AM
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20. that's an airtight case you have there
just like the case that Saddam had WMDs.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:14 AM
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21. Iran the "greatest threat"...ROTFLMAO!!!
Are ya SCARED yet??!

:rofl:

How many times can ya fool dimwitted ignorant Americans? Every time, apparently!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:22 AM
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9. I always make a serious effort not to watch pimps & whores....
Edited on Mon Feb-06-06 01:23 AM by Zinfandel
Its always the same old lousy fuck!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 04:39 AM
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12. Meet the Press is like a car wreck.
I watch it just because.

Ps: Boner (yeah, that's how you spell it) is an assclown.


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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:08 AM
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13. I hope Russert's son is the first to enlist for this war.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:10 AM
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14. Is there oil in Iran?
I'm just wondering why an oil rich country would resort to nuclear power.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 09:10 AM
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15. Maybe because it has heard of Peak Oil
Edited on Mon Feb-06-06 09:18 AM by JohnyCanuck
and wants to plan for the future, and Iran knows that, unlike the USA which not that long ago was the world's largest oil producer, there will be no countries readily available it can invade, bully and kick the shit out of to grab control of their oil when its own oil production hits peak and goes into decline.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 09:20 AM
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17. First, any country that build a nuclear plant, sets up a target for its
enemies. Secondly, Iran would stop exporting oil, and keep it for its own country once full depletion begins.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:19 AM
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22. Nice theory, but I wouldn't count on it as a practical option.

In Iran it's no doubt seen as quite arrogant for the US to lay down the law to Iran on this issue while as I mentioned, the US was once was the world's biggest oil producer with seemingly limitless reserves of oil and is now scrabbling along with all the rest of the major powers to find the oil to keep their economic systems on an even keel and is contemplating building more of their own civilian nuclear reactors. Iran has every right to tell the hypocritical West to fuck off.

Given the current state of the world and the event occurring today in Iraq and the Middle East along with the bullying behavior of the US neocons in control of the Bush administration, Iranians be nuts to assume that post peak they'd be allowed to keep their oil for their own use. Things are likely to get pretty desperate once the full impact of peak oil hits and Iran's leadership would be failing in its duty were it to blithely assume that they would just be "allowed" to keep what oil they had for their own use and not forced under in some manner to "share" it with the rest of the oil thirsty world.

The Iranian oil fields are in a very small corner of North Western Iran close to Iraq. If the world was going to hell in a handbasket post peak it would not be unlikely that those oil fields would come under threat especially if the US was still in Iraq. I can't blame the Iranians at all for feeling they need to diversify their energy sources and to be prepared for the worst given what the stakes are.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 09:11 AM
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16. Welcome to DU, casual hex.
:hi:
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Unmarked Poster Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 09:22 AM
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18. Here's a good link
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 09:38 AM
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19. maybe he didn't hear CNN's apology
maybe Russert heard CNN's false story, but didn't catch the retraction...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4617754.stm

<snip>

CNN wrongly translated President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as saying Iran had a right to use nuclear "weapons", rather than nuclear "technology".

Hardliners had described the mistake as a deliberate attempt to misrepresent Iran's stance in a diplomatic crisis.

The US-based news network issued a statement apologising for the mistake and expressing its "regrets to the Iranian government and the Iranian ambassador to the United Nations".

It said the translator, who had worked for CNN before, had been hired from an outside company, and there was no reason to think that his mistake had been deliberate.

more...
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:24 AM
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23. Doubtless another of the Pentagon's Psyops stooges.
It said the translator, who had worked for CNN before,had been hired from an outside company, and there was no reason to think that his mistake had been deliberate.


CNN AND PSYOPS
By Alexander Cockburn

Military personnel from the Fourth Psychological Operations Group based at Fort Bragg, in North Carolina, have until recently been working in CNN's hq in Atlanta.

CNN is up in arms about our report in the last issue of CounterPunch concerning the findings of the Dutch journalist, Abe de Vries about the presence of US Army personnel at CNN, owned by Time-Warner. We cited an article by de Vries which appeared on February 21 in the reputable Dutch daily newspaper Trouw, originally translated into English and placed on the web by Emperor's Clothes. De Vries reported that a handful of military personnel from the Third Psychological Operations Battalion, part of the airmobile Fourth Psychological Operations Group based at Fort Bragg, in North Carolina, had worked in CNN's hq in Atlanta.

De Vries quoted Major Thomas Collins of the US Army Information Service as having confirmed the presence of these Army psy-ops experts at CNN, saying, "Psy-ops personnel, soldiers and officers, have been working in CNN's headquarters in Atlanta through our program, 'Training with Industry'. They worked as regular employees of CNN. Conceivably, they would have worked on stories during the Kosovo war. They helped in the production of news."

http://www.counterpunch.org/cnnpsyops.html
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casual hex Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:09 PM
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25. Thank you for that link
I didn't hear about the CNN apology. This CNN incident is an outstanding example of what forces are at work here. To believe that translation error was a genuine mistake, you'd have to be an effing idiot. Don't you think they might double and triple check the translation for something as major as Iran saying it had a right to use nuclear weapons?

But take note. During the coming weeks and months you will see more of this kind of incident.

Diligently push some fantastical and alarmist claim supporting your thesis out into the public consciousness, then after a few days, when it has been shown to be false, quietly drop it, perhaps issuing a retraction, perhaps not.

At that point the work of embedding the disinfo into the mind of the masses has already been done, especially with the right wing echo chamber structure that exists allowing manipulative talk radio hosts to breathlessly parrot the lie for a few days to the ditto heads.

This insidious technique works by repetition and was used repeatedly in the build up to the attack on Iraq. Killer "Drones" off the east coast anyone?

Keep an eye out for it, and you will see it, repeatedly.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 09:01 PM
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26. and then when it's repeated by people like Russert
it's more believable, even though it's supposedly been retracted.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:51 AM
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24. If Russert knows for a fact that Iran is building nuclear weapons
then he is a security leak . . . and he should be punished . . . :evilgrin:
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