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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:35 AM
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Former Reagan advisor compares Bush to Hitler
Caught in gratuitous and illegal spying on American citizens, the Bush administration has defended its illegal activity and set the Justice (sic) Department on the trail of the person or persons who informed the New York Times of Bush’s violation of law.

Note the astounding paradox: The Bush administration is caught red-handed in blatant illegality and responds by trying to arrest the patriot who exposed the administration’s illegal behavior.

Bush has actually declared it treasonous to reveal his illegal behavior! His propagandists, who masquerade as news organizations, have taken up the line: To reveal wrong-doing by the Bush administration is to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

Compared to Spygate, Watergate was a kindergarten picnic. The Bush administration’s lies, felonies, and illegalities have revealed it to be a criminal administration with a police state mentality and police state methods. Now Bush and his attorney general have gone the final step and declared Bush to be above the law. Bush aggressively mimics Hitler’s claim that defense of the realm entitles him to ignore the rule of law.
http://vdare.com/roberts/060101_administration.htm


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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:13 AM
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1. We still have a problem: Supreme Court precedence.
In the 1940's more than 100,000 American citizens of Japanese ancestry were stripped of their right to reside in the homes that they paid for, their right to work, their right to be American citizens. They were ordered to report to internment camps and ordered to sell their property if they could. They were held as prisoners despite their absence of being accused of committing a crime or even a due process hearing for individual circumstances.

An outraged member of this targeted group sued for his right to liberty. His name was Koramatsu. It went to the Supreme Court.

And up there with Dred Scott and the decision to allow state-sponsored sterilization of the "feeble-minded", the Court made a decision unworthy of its prestige. It said that because of the ongoing war, the federal government had the right to intern any citizen it deemed dangerous to the country at large.

Thus, we have precedence that "war" allows the government to overstep, ignore, run roughshod, destroy liberties because of the exigent circumstances. This case has not been overruled or overturned.

Suppose * keeps the "war" perpetually? There go any or all of our rights unless the Supreme Court makes an exception. Which I doubt.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:19 AM
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2. That was a declared war. And not declared by a Chimp either
That is the difference. The Cold War wouldn't have qualified either.

Don
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:27 AM
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5. If SCOTUS isn't capable of determining
when "war" is used euphemistically, we're in even bigger trouble.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:21 AM
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3. Where's the "official" declaration of war??
There are some sort of fuzzy proclamations...
but I don't remember congress passing a Declaration of War.

And remind me..who are we at war against??
Oh yeah.. the evil doers
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:29 PM
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6. Did he ever go before Congress for a "Declaration of War?"
I don't think so. The IWR IS NOT a "Declaration of War."
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:44 PM
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7. Okay. So if the case goes to the SCOTUS, one issue will be to have
them rule on what legally defines a "war". That might be a good thing as it would be a ruling that truly illegitimizes this campaign and make the WH call it what it is: an invasion.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 01:23 PM
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9. Should Presidents have had war powers during the "War on Drugs"?
How about during the "War on Poverty"?

We are NOT at war!!
We invaded a sovereign nation - unprovoked and unthreated - and defeated them in less than two months!
We are now occupying that nation - brutally and oppressively - killing over 100,000 of their citizens at a cost of about 2,000 lives of our troops. That's about a 50-to-1 kill ratio.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 01:44 PM
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10. Perpetual war is a distinct possibility-the Anthrax Terrorist remains free
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:24 AM
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4. what a strange, strange place vdare
seems to be.

overly concerned with questions about racial differences -- reminds me of topics from the reagan/bush years, immigration, etc.

while i'm glad he/she opposes bush -- this character{a loon?} is friend to liberals.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 01:14 PM
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8. we must make a concerted effrot to
celebrate and financially support any who are discovered to have revealed Bush's treason.... or that of any of his neocon collaborators. These are all people whom history will look upon as having deserved the hang man's noose. That is where I sincerely hope they will end up. Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Wolfie and the rest of the bastards. They have killed enough innocents to deserve hanging many times over.
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