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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:52 AM
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Vets' ills mounting fast - 25% seek treatment at VA hospitals --->>>
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 11:58 AM by Stephanie

Looks like someone at the VA is leaking documents to Juan Gonzalez.





http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/389095p-330152c.html

Vets' ills mounting fast
by Juan Gonzalez


Nearly 120,000 veterans - more than one of every four who served in Iraq and Afghanistan - have already sought treatment at Veterans Health Administration hospitals for a wide range of illnesses, according to an internal study the VHA completed late last year.

More than 30% of those sick veterans are afflicted with some type of mental disorder, mostly posttraumatic stress and depression.

An additional 35,000 - more than 29% of the total - were diagnosed with "ill-defined conditions," according to the study, which was prepared in October by VHA epidemiologist Dr. Han Kang but has yet to be publicly released.

"Those numbers are way higher than during the Persian Gulf War for 'ill-defined' symptoms," said one Department of Veterans Affairs official who asked not to be identified.

Nearly two years ago, I reported about a group of nine New York National Guardsmen from the 442nd Military Police Co. who returned from Iraq with medical problems the Army listed as "ill-defined." Nearly half of those soldiers - four out of nine - later showed signs, in independent tests arranged by the Daily News, of exposure to depleted uranium dust from exploded U.S. shells.



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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:00 PM
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1. This administration is DISGRACEFUL! KnR
How any so-called patriot can support the heartless bastards who have taken over this country, I don't know. May all of them rot in hell.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:01 PM
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2. ill-defined means
malingerers-fakers-freeloaders

The stage is set the lines is writ heavy in black.

Serve your masters then shut the fuck up.

Sarcasm here fellows.

180
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:04 PM
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3. K&R I read some time ago that the gov't was trying to redefine criteria
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 12:06 PM by Wordie
for a PTSD diagnosis. The gist was that the gov't wanted to set the bar higher for criteria for a diagnosis of PTSD, to exclude many vets. Have they already done so? Are these "ill-defined conditions" really PTSD, and a result of a re-definition of the diagnosis?

Our government should be ashamed.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:06 PM
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4. I think the ill-defined symptoms are depleted uranium related
that's what Gonzalez discusses in the column.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:15 PM
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6. Yes, he does mention that...
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 12:16 PM by Wordie
but it seems to me that the focus is on PTSD and other stress-related illnesses, while the uranium-dust study was relatively small. It surely is possible that exposure to radiation could be driving some of the numbers, though.

Mental disorders, however, rank as the biggest problem among ailing veterans.

Two previous military studies of combat troops in Iraq found that 17% to 25% of U.S. soldiers suffer from major depression or combat stress.

All the studies show a far higher rate of mental problems among our troops than during the Persian Gulf War, and levels comparable to what was found among U.S. troops during the Vietnam War.

Kang's report, because it includes only soldiers who voluntarily checked themselves in for treatment, could be understating the level of mental disorders, say veterans advocates who have seen summaries of his findings.


(Note that the article said that the recent study found a 30% rate of mental health issues, and a 29% rate of "ill-defined conditions.")

Either way, we've got a tragic problem on our hands.

Thanks for posting this, Stephanie.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:16 PM
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7. There was an article kicking around here about a study:
Birth defects rate in families with returned vets: 67%

It also said that often the only family member who wasn't ill was the child born before the deployment. Really really scary stuff.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:14 PM
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12. And the articles maybe 10 days ago
that practically 100% of GW1 Vets are seriously ill or dead...
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:12 PM
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5. Here it comes, depleted uranium's showing
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 12:18 PM by Jose Diablo
what it can do. Stick around, we will be hearing from all the 'experts' in physics that say it's just not possible to become sick from low level radiation. They'll be here shortly.

Edit: For the 'experts', tell those movie actors that made 'gunsmoke and horseshit' movies out on the Nevada nuke test grounds about how breathing low level radiation particles is not harmful.
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:36 PM
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8. Thanks for this
I'm attending my first local DAV meeting tonight and will bring this article along. I'm hoping this meeting is substantive and not just an excuse for the members to get a discount on their meal at Golden Corral.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:05 PM
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10. if you search Gonzalez' other articles on this
and also the interview he did on Democracy Now he has a lot more info on the DU symptoms.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:15 PM
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9. Rummy: nah, they just miss the field - send them back to Iraq
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:03 PM
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11. I'm sorry but do you think the Admin cares
returning Vets who are no longer in the service and preparing to go to Iraq for the 3rd or 4th time are looked upon by this Admin as nothing more than drain, on resources, money, time whatever...

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:24 PM
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13. no worries. the budget will cut the VA funding.
that has been the modus operendi of these assholes before. And continues to this day.

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