Why Did Brownie Say He Called Bush in Crawford When Bush Was in San Diego?

Katrina hit Monday morning. Bush flew to Arizona Monday morning, ate cake, gave a Medicare photo-op, then flew to San Diego where he spent the night at the Hotel del Coronado and attended a fundraiser. Why did Brown say he called Hagin in Crawford Monday night (and Bush was possibly on the call but he can't remember for sure)? The NY Times today makes the same error. None of the Senators seemed aware of the mistake. I thought everyone knew Bush was in Crawford Sunday night, San Diego Monday night, and Crawford again on Tuesday night after giving a speech about Iraq on a Navy ship in San Diego and playing guitar. He didn't fly back to DC until Wednesday, cutting his vacation short by two days. Why do I think this is important? Not sure. Help me figure it out.


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Monday August 28 2005


Arizona


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bush was at least at the "second WH"? :shrug:

stating top officials were afraid to tell Bush what was going on with Katrina, and finally put videos from various news reports on a DVD and that's how Bush found out?

they drew straws on who was going to have to tell him and I believe Andy Card lost.

edit- typo

Because he gets all Pissypants on them. The man is not interested enough to turn on CNN for five minutes in the hotel.

but I am sure there must be some record of that here on DU somewhere. Perhaps a thread with that in the title would jog a memory or two?

maybe?

I know there were news accounts of it at the time that it happened.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/site/newsweek/

How Bush Blew It
Bureaucratic timidity. Bad phone lines. And a failure of imagination. Why the government was so slow to respond to catastrophe.

By Evan Thomas
Newsweek

Sept. 19, 2005 issue - It's a standing joke among the president's top aides: who gets to deliver the bad news? Warm and hearty in public, Bush can be cold and snappish in private, and aides sometimes cringe before the displeasure of the president of the United States, or, as he is known in West Wing jargon, POTUS. The bad news on this early morning, Tuesday, Aug. 30, some 24 hours after Hurricane Katrina had ripped through New Orleans, was that the president would have to cut short his five-week vacation by a couple of days and return to Washington. The president's chief of staff, Andrew Card; his deputy chief of staff, Joe Hagin; his counselor, Dan Bartlett, and his spokesman, Scott McClellan, held a conference call to discuss the question of the president's early return and the delicate task of telling him. Hagin, it was decided, as senior aide on the ground, would do the deed.

The president did not growl this time. He had already decided to return to Washington and hold a meeting of his top advisers on the following day, Wednesday. This would give them a day to get back from their vacations and their staffs to work up some ideas about what to do in the aftermath of the storm. President Bush knew the storm and its consequences had been bad; but he didn't quite realize how bad.

The reality, say several aides who did not wish to be quoted because it might displease the president, did not really sink in until Thursday night. Some White House staffers were watching the evening news and thought the president needed to see the horrific reports coming out of New Orleans. Counselor Bartlett made up a DVD of the newscasts so Bush could see them in their entirety as he flew down to the Gulf Coast the next morning on Air Force One.

How this could be—how the president of the United States could have even less "situational awareness," as they say in the military, than the average American about the worst natural disaster in a century—is one of the more perplexing and troubling chapters in a story that, despite moments of heroism and acts of great generosity, ranks as a national disgrace.

President George W. Bush has always trusted his gut. He prides himself in ignoring the distracting chatter, the caterwauling of the media elites, the Washington political buzz machine. He has boasted that he doesn't read the papers. His doggedness is often admirable. It is easy for presidents to overreact to the noise around them.

I went to get the bubble issue because I knew just where it was. By the time I skimmed that one, you had alrady found it! Good Work!

So, this smuck didn't really get an idea of how deep he was in shit until Thursday! That would have been AFTER he did his little fly over too!

remember he went and spoke from the airport while trucks finally rolled into the city? and I think they held the trucks up, made them wait, until it could be timed with his speech? people are thirsty and dying but don't interfere with his photo-op.

and then sent to Mississippi to walk around with him? The electricity that only was turned on long enough for his "Magic Kingdom" speech, then promptly turned off.

So much about Katrina really has been wag the dog and we knew it when it was happening. You might have just blown the lid off Brownie's testimony today. Good Work!

that one couldn't turn on a television and NOT see reports from N.O. at the time. It was everywhere, on every station. How could DoDo have missed it?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/

By Evan Thomas
Newsweek
Sept. 19, 2005 issue - It's a standing joke among the president's top aides: who gets to deliver the bad news? Warm and hearty in public, Bush can be cold and snappish in private, and aides sometimes cringe before the displeasure of the president of the United States, or, as he is known in West Wing jargon, POTUS. The bad news on this early morning, Tuesday, Aug. 30, some 24 hours after Hurricane Katrina had ripped through New Orleans, was that the president would have to cut short his five-week vacation by a couple of days and return to Washington. The president's chief of staff, Andrew Card; his deputy chief of staff, Joe Hagin; his counselor, Dan Bartlett, and his spokesman, Scott McClellan, held a conference call to discuss the question of the president's early return and the delicate task of telling him. Hagin, it was decided, as senior aide on the ground, would do the deed.

The president did not growl this time. He had already decided to return to Washington and hold a meeting of his top advisers on the following day, Wednesday. This would give them a day to get back from their vacations and their staffs to work up some ideas about what to do in the aftermath of the storm. President Bush knew the storm and its consequences had been bad; but he didn't quite realize how bad.

The reality, say several aides who did not wish to be quoted because it might displease the president, did not really sink in until Thursday night. Some White House staffers were watching the evening news and thought the president needed to see the horrific reports coming out of New Orleans. Counselor Bartlett made up a DVD of the newscasts so Bush could see them in their entirety as he flew down to the Gulf Coast the next morning on Air Force One.

... I could not find any DU threads but I know there were a few.

attempted in LBN on the Newsweek article. It was moved to Editorials:

MadisonProgressive Sun Sep-11-05 09:10 AM
Original message
Newsweek: How Bush Blew It

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x155628

We all knew this kind of thing was fact. But to see it in Newsweek, actually reported somewhere mainstream, and to see it take on a life of its own (consider: the analysis and punditry as late as today - when I read the last one - that characterize Katrina as THE defining moment of downturn of the bush presidency)... To see it clarified like this was nothing less than staggering. It's one of those times when you are tempted to think you're still dreaming, and you're rudely jolted into facing that you're wide awake. To paraphrase the story, WE, TOO, who oppose bush, knew the situation was bad. We just hadn't quite realized HOW bad.

ive not yet heard this, and i wish i would have before lunch because i feel ill.

Its possible to be more and more sickened everyday with these people, there is no end.

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Ultra-Conservative Newspaper, Manchester Union Leader, Blasts Bush As "Aloof" During Hurricane Disaster. "A Better Leader Would Have Flown Straight to the Disaster Zone," Editorial Says.

http://webarchive.unionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=59785

but i find this curious...

i have no link and i can't tell you what it is from..i kept everything from the hurricane in my files...but this one has no link to it..


Let's try to figure this OUT!
Okay, today the NG finally comes in. There's no way the water was any lower today than it has been, so obviously they waited to come in. Lots of threads on why this might have been.

But...THIS IS TOO WEIRD: WHY, WHY did they all leave tonight? They've locked up all the people at the Convention Center and have established roadblocks to keep people from leaving the city.

1/2 the police have quit, and so there's "a curfew" in the city, I guess because of the danger. But if it's so dangerous, WHY DID THE MILITARY LEAVE?!??

It's completely illogical! And why isn't anybody talking about it? Not here, I mean on TV? Shepherd Smith mentioned it briefly but his segment wasn't very long, before Hannity shut him down.

WHAT IS GOING ON???

from my katrina files...


Louisiana sent letter begging Bush for help on 28th
http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pd...

This letter was written on Sunday. The GOP is trying to spin that the local and state government hadn't asked for help.

yes * used fema money in 2004 to give payola to Miami residents..problem was..Miami didn't have a hurricane hit.,.many of us here in fla were screaming before election that fema money was being used to buy votes...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sfl-fema23mar23,0,5144922.story?coll=sfla-news-utility

* Used FEMA to Help Him Win Florida in 2004, But He's Not Running for Re-Election -- and Most of the Suffering in New Orleans are Black -- So He Couldn't Give a S***! 9/2

fly

He ran away from Crawford to California. Remember?

He hid out on his ranch that whole week right before Katrina, the week that the freeper counter-protestors showed up. Sunday he released a pre-taped statement about Iraq and Katrina. Monday morning he flew to AZ to give the photo-op, then to San Diego. Monday night he attended the fundraiser. Tuesday he gave a speech aboard the Navy ship and played guitar, then returned to Crawford for the night. Wednesday he finally returned to DC, flying over the disaster area en route, to view it.

right? It's on an island. I've been there but can't remember if the bridge is a drawbridge that only lowers for white people or not. I think I was the most melanin enriched person there the weekend we went down. Lucky we got in :sarcasm:

:nuke:

Who can say anymore where the person you are calling is? My dad has a "roving" phone number that he can assign to ring at whatever number he programs it to.

Brown could have called Crawford, and someone in Crawford could have patched Bush in from wherever he actually was. Or it could have automatically forwarded to wherever Bush actually was.

Who was in the conversation and what were discussed are all that matter.

jim

Someone in that hearing should get the facts straight, even if it's not Brownie. And so should the New York Times. It may be a detail but it's relevant.

Brownie said he started sending help to the convention center on Wednesday but the supplies didn't arrive until FRIDAY when blivet** was close by and looking for a phot-op. blivet** flew to NOLA, but he didn't go anywhere NEAR the dome or the convention center at all.

If they had the stuff there, why did it take two days to get it to the site?

while others were suffering. For someone who likes to bash the French, his vacation allotment has exceeded any Frenchmen dreams. This bozo has taken more vacation already than any other President & that includes Reagan who was actually shot. Another record * can be proud off. Most vacations than any other president along with most disasters than any prez.

I am sure a call to him in Tx. can end up in Ca. in this day and age.Heck this President hops around like a movie star. On 911 he must have put om 3000 miles on his trips alone.

And in the paper of record.

Some one will have the time down to the second. Count on it. What a shame Bush has been to that city

you all know he did a 'heck of a job' :)

Sept. 19, 2005 issue - It's a standing joke among the president's top aides: who gets to deliver the bad news? Warm and hearty in public, Bush can be cold and snappish in private, and aides sometimes cringe before the displeasure of the president of the United States, or, as he is known in West Wing jargon, POTUS. The bad news on this early morning, Tuesday, Aug. 30, some 24 hours after Hurricane Katrina had ripped through New Orleans, was that the president would have to cut short his five-week vacation by a couple of days and return to Washington. The president's chief of staff, Andrew Card; his deputy chief of staff, Joe Hagin; his counselor, Dan Bartlett, and his spokesman, Scott McClellan, held a conference call to discuss the question of the president's early return and the delicate task of telling him. Hagin, it was decided, as senior aide on the ground, would do the deed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/site/newsweek/

The reality, say several aides who did not wish to be quoted because it might displease the president, did not really sink in until Thursday night. Some White House staffers were watching the evening news and thought the president needed to see the horrific reports coming out of New Orleans. Counselor Bartlett made up a DVD of the newscasts so Bush could see them in their entirety as he flew down to the Gulf Coast the next morning on Air Force One.


Thursday night?????? WTF???

PM him, he may have what you're looking for....He has quite an archive.

he talked to hagan "it was the same as talking to the President".

What Bush actually hears and takes in, however, is not clear. And whether his advisers are quite as frank as they claim to be with the president is also questionable. Take Social Security, for example. One House Republican, who asked not to be identified for fear of offending the White House, recalls a summertime meeting with congressmen in the Roosevelt Room at which Bush enthusiastically talked up his Social Security reform plan. But the plan was already dead—as everyone except the president had acknowledged. Bush seemed to have no idea. "I got the sense that his staff was not telling him the bad news," says the lawmaker. "This was not a case of him thinking positive. He just didn't have any idea of the political realities there. It was like he wasn't briefed at all." (Bush was not clueless, says an aide, but pushing his historic mission.)

In subtle ways, Bush does not encourage truth-telling or at least a full exploration of all that could go wrong. A former senior member of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad occasionally observed Bush on videoconferences with his top advisers. "The president would ask the generals, 'Do you have what you need to complete the mission?' as opposed to saying, 'Tell me, General, what do you need to win?' which would have opened up a whole new set of conversations," says this official, who did not want to be identified discussing high-level meetings. The official says that the way Bush phrased his questions, as well as his obvious lack of interest in long, detailed discussions, had a chilling effect. "It just prevented the discussion from heading in a direction that would open up a possibility that we need more troops," says the official.

Bush generally prefers short conversations—long on conclusion, short on reasoning. He likes popular history and presidential biography (Theodore Roosevelt, George Washington), but by all accounts, he is not intellectually curious. Occasional outsiders brought into the Bush Bubble have observed that faith, not evidence, is the basis for decision making. Psychobabblers have long had a field day with the fact that Bush quit drinking cold turkey and turned around his life by accepting God. His close friends agree that Bush likes comfort and serenity; he does not like dissonance. He has long been mothered by strong women, including his mother and wife. A foreign diplomat who declined to be identified was startled when Secretary of State Rice warned him not to lay bad news on the president. "Don't upset him," she said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10417159/site/newsweek/page/4/

blivet** doesn't like to be told bad news. Brownie thought telling Card was the same thing as telling blivet**, but he might have had a long conversation (relatively) with Card which Card turned around and make it a two sentence briefing instead? I still say it's on blivet** more than anyone else.

don't have the link but this was in my files..maybe someone can pull it up..the date and oped subject is here..


United States of Shame

By MAUREEN DOWD,Published: September 3, 2005

Stuff happens.

It would be one thing if President Bush and his inner circle - Dick Cheney was vacationing in Wyoming; Condi Rice was shoe shopping at Ferragamo's on Fifth Avenue and attended "Spamalot" before bloggers chased her back to Washington; and Andy Card was off in Maine - lacked empathy but could get the job done. But it is a chilling lack of empathy combined with a stunning lack of efficiency that could make this administration implode.


fly

Part of the problem here is that the GWB that is publicized, the one that the 36 percenters believe they know does not exist. It is a PR campaign. It is not a person with a personality in reality.

So, the whole problem of where this character is or isn't, what this fictive personality said or did, becomes unstable.

My bet is, this is at the root of many of these contradictions.

And you are right. The Congressional flaming RECORD should at least aim for accuracy. The NYTs should, in a world where there is a NYTs whose main enterprise is professional journalism.

Here's a nice link on Brownie.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20060210/femas_unholy_trinity.php
<snip>
A new investigation released earlier this week by Real News reveals why Brown—a man with virtually no experience in government or management of any type, and no familiarity with disaster response—secured the job of chief of America’s disaster response.

It all starts with Joe Allbaugh, Bush’s former Texas chief of staff and 2000 presidential campaign manager. Allbaugh asked to be Bush’s first FEMA director and brought with him to Washington his little-known fellow Oklahoman Michael Brown. The investigation further explains why Allbaugh arranged for the eminently unqualified Brown to replace him in the top slot when Allbaugh left government to launch a career as a consultant and lobbyist. Allbaugh then began signing up clients who wanted—and got—FEMA’s lucrative contracts.

When Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf States, Brown’s inexperience and lack of qualifications quickly became apparent to the world. Reporters discovered that Brown had substantially exaggerated his extremely modest accomplishments. Bush initially expressed his support for the embattled Brown, famously declaring, “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” But with criticism reaching fever pitch, the president—famous reluctant to hold subordinates accountable—took the unusual step of forcing Brown out.

He said Brown called them in Texas on Monday night.

she's working on the cheney timeline, which doesn't seem to make sense either.
maybe theres some connection?
:hi:
and hey, are you coming out for drinks next saturday?

He was closing on his new estate in MD, the one that's near Rummy's place. I think it's because he anticipates he will have to resign, so he wants a palace for his exile. Anyway that's what he was doing that week, and he was in Wyoming the whole time, I think. I'm pretty sure he did not return to DC in time for the WH photo-op on Thursday.

Condi, of course, was shopping for shoes on Fifth Avenue and attending Broadway shows. This on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, IIRC.

KKKarl! Karl made a surprise visit to the Freepers' camp at Crawford, to thank them for their service. This on I think Wednesday of that week. I have it bookmarked somewhere, will dig it up. Bradblog had it, with pictures. And then of course he got kidney stones and was not available to manage the Bush photo-ops in the immediaet aftermath, which left bush in a great deal of political trouble when the public was not convinced. That would be the time of "heckuva job brownie."

Rummy was in San Diego on Monday going to a baseball game, and he attended the speech on the Navy Ship the next day. I have fabulous pictures of that event. Very majestic. Bush truly does believe he's King and treats himself accordingly.

I didn't know about drinks next Saturday - send me the info, k?

w/ white house staff that rove was "in and out of" just before they submitted a plan to blanco for the militarty to take over. (not cheney)
it's not clear, but it sounds like the meeting was friday or saturday. at first i thought he was talking about a conference call to the WH, he had just before this talked about discussing it on airforce one that friday. it sounded like it was sometime after that, but that night they put together the "offer of help to blanco" that she declined. i'm not sure where it took place, brownie just mentions it was a conference room. it was unclear if he was on the phone or actually there.
the timeline's pretty confusing, but fly was concerned because it seemed like prior to this they claimed rove wasn't around at all this time. but brownie definately said he was in on the discussion to federalize the whole thing. supposedly they put together the proposal to blanco from this meeting, and finalized it that night. so, it was the night or just prior to the morning they contacted with blance, rove was around, and involved. i watched a second time, and had hoped to get clarity on the where/ when, but no luck.

so he would have been in MS and who knows where Rove was - Crawford, or DC? But he would have been able to see him go in and out on video.

now i distinctly remember that..but brownie said Rove was on a confernece call..how is that..i have passed stones and i will tell you..one would be on extensive pain meds..and not up to talking to god himeslf!

its like giving birth to an elephant through a coctail straw!

fly

like either that weekend or early the next week. because then bush's whole PR campaign to change the perception that he didn't care about the Katrina victims was a miserable failure and they were trying to blame it on Rove's absence.

Brownie was "out of the loop", and hagin probably never told him Bush was NOT in Crawford..

Right hand?? Left hand?? No clue

huge fundraiser? I don't think he left because of Cindy at all. He had fundraising to do for the party, grip and grins to do for money. cindy might have unnerved him but he never would have let it show by giving in that way.

Cindy was camped out and he drove by her in his motorcade to go to the neighboring ranch. It's the only time he left the property. Remember when he took a vacation from his vacation, and went to an Idaho resort? And he was riding his bike around the place? I think that was the previous week. I can look it up. The week right before Katrina was I think the week that Lance Armstrong came for a visit. See Bush was busy bike-riding, and his team didn't want to interrupt him because he might get mad. Our nation is in an abusive relationship. Everyone is walking on eggshells around this mad king.

Just more quizzical righwing nuttery.

criminals in a never investigated crime?? So MANY deadly mysteries...so many people dead for nothing.

Hope there's something here that can help. :hi:
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soup
Sun Aug-14-05 01:34 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4348225



"All right," Bush says. "Let's go have fun."

President Bush took seven journalists on a ride around his Crawford, Texas ranch on Saturday. He spoke with them before the ride. Here are a few excerpts of that interview.

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Stephanie
Mon Aug-15-05 05:20 PM

(THE PHOTOS HAVE EXPIRED SO ONLY THE CAPTIONS REMAIN)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4358262

WHERE'S GEORGE? >>>

He declines to appear today. Same as yesterday. Although he did manage to call up the Golf Champion, which indicates that he is holed up inside his fake ranch house watching TV. Has Cindy forced George into hiding? Where is he?


>>>Wednesday:
U.S. President George W. Bush (R) rolls up his sleeves as he is introduced by speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) at the Caterpillar-Aurora Facility in Montgomery, Illinois, August 10, 2005.

http: //news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050813/ids_photos_india_wl/ra899332364.jpg



>>>Thursday:
U.S. President George W. Bush speaks alongside senior administration figures following their meeting on defense issues on his ranch in Crawford, Texas, August 11, 2005.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050812/photos_ts/mdf22630



>>>Friday:
President Bush's motorcade departs a political fundraiser at the 'Broken Spoke Ranch' near his own Crawford, Texas, home, Friday, Aug. 12, 2005.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050812/480/txsa10808122240




>>>Saturday:
President Bush throws out the first pitch at a Little League Baseball Southwest Region championship game between boys from Lafayette, La. and Bryant, Ark. at Marvin Norcross Stadium in Waco, Texas, Saturday, Aug. 13, 2005.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050814/480/txsa20408140157



>>>Sunday - AWOL

>>>Monday - AWOL - he seems to be home watching golf on TV
Phil Mickelson of the U.S. takes a phone call from the U.S. President George W. Bush after winning the 2005 PGA Championship at Baltusrol Golf Club in Springfield, New Jersey, August 15, 2005.

http: //news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050815/ids_photos_sp/r1075262896.jpg


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Stephanie Donating M
Fri Aug-26-05 03:33 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4466310

This Is No "Working Vacation" - Do They Have to LIE About EVERYTHING? >>>

WHERE'S GEORGE?


Bush himself described a typical day at his Crawford ranch to reporters recently, as reported by The New York Times: "I'm going to have lunch with Secretary of State Rice, talk a little business; Mrs. Bush, talk a little business ... take a little nap. I'm reading an Elmore Leonard book right now, knock off a little Elmore Leonard this afternoon; go fishing with my man, Barney; a light dinner and head to the ballgame. I get to bed about 9:30 p.m., wake up at 5 a.m. So it's a perfect day."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002450207_bushroutine24.html?syndication=rss&source=seattletimes.xml&items=149


Friday 8/26 - AWOL

Thursday 8/25 - AWOL

Wednesday 8/24 - Gave one speech>




Tuesday 8/23 - AWOL>


Monday 8/22 - gave one speech>




Sunday 8/21 - AWOL

Saturday 8/20 - AWOL

Friday 8/19 - AWOL

Thursday 8/18 - AWOL

Wednesday 8/17 - AWOL

Tuesday 8/16 - AWOL

Monday 8/15 - AWOL

Sunday 8/14 - AWOL

Saturday 8/13 - threw the first pitch in a Little League game>

Friday 8/12 - went to a fundraiser>


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Sat Aug-28-05
Bush returns from his Idaho vacation to his Crawford vacation home on Wednesday 8/24 and promptly disappears from view. On Saturday thousands of protestors converge on Crawford.




Sun Aug-28-05
On Sunday, as headlines report "Katrina Packing Wind of Nearly 175 Mph" and New Orleans is ordered to evacuate, Bush finally resurfaces in a taped appearance. He makes brief remarks about Katrina and then discusses Iraq. Transcript: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/2005082... Later the White House issues one photo of Bush being briefed on Katrina.






Mon Aug-29-05
As the hurricane rages, Bush flies to Arizona for a "Conversation on Medicare." Upon landing, he presents John McCain with a birthday cake. He then flies to San Diego to spend the night at the luxury resort Hotel del Coronado, reportedly attending a fundraiser that night.




Tue Aug-30-05
As floodwaters inundate New Orleans and the Gulf Coast reels from the catastrophe, Bush speaks at a VJ-Day ceremony in San Diego. Afterwards singer Mark Wills presents him with a guitar. He then returns to Crawford for the night.



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truthpusher
Thu Sep-01-05 11:54 PM

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Karl Rove Makes Surprise Visit to Camp Casey! (photographed)

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001784.htm



CRAWFORD, TX - Driving his own pickup, with two trucks blockading both sides of the street, Bush Administration Senior Political Advisor and Deputy Chief of Staff, Karl Rove made a surprise sunset visit/photo-op Tuesday night to the half dozen or so Bush supporters camped across the street from "Camp Casey" in Crawford, Texas where Cindy Sheehan -- whose son, Casey, was killed in Iraq -- originally made her stand requesting a meeting and an explanation from George W. Bush, The BRAD BLOG has learned from eye-witnesses.

According to supporters from both the Bush and Sheehan sides of the street at the makeshift protest sites, Rove's visit occurred as the bulk of Sheehan supporters and volunteers were enjoying a final "thank you dinner" down at the larger Camp Casey II several miles down the road on Tuesday evening.

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Did he stay in Crawford, or go with Bush to AZ and SD?

the idiot was en route to Arizona. Brown called him before that?

to tell them about the levees, after the FEMA guy flew over them and saw the flooding.

I love these kinds of threads. :thumbsup:

:)

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Although organization was attempted, it is not in fact terribly organized; so when looking for info on any particular subject, best to scan the COMPLETE list of post subjects.

at the coranado golf course...i remember it because i thought at around 4-430 that was getting a bit late to start a game..and i remember being so angry that he was playing golf with what i was seeing on tv in new orleans

anyone else remember that??????

fly

I remember searching for a photo at that time and not finding any, and I never found a link for it. But I know he got into San Diego late that afternoon and went to the resort and attended the fundraiser, so it almost makes sense that he would squeeze a round of golf in there. Imagine! Staying at a luxury resort on the coast and dining n luxury while pocketing cash from your cronies, all the time New Orleans is drowning and grandmothers in wheelchairs are dying and babies are drowning and nobody can be bothered to do anything to help because they're all on vacation. Bush at Hotel del Coronado, Rummy also in San Diego, Condi shopping and going to theater in NYC, Cheney at his Wyoming estate, Rove yukking it up with the freepers down in Crawford. They didn't do a damn thing until Friday, when their vacations were over.

but the article is not accessable anymore!

fly

Did you know there's a ghost in one of the rooms?

Blanco

the * fuckers wanted to take control of NOLA..they let it happen!! they wanted to be able to take power over LA...they sat back and let happen what happened to the good people of NO..they had deliberately put a doofus in charge of FEMA waiting for one of several scenerios to take place..
eiehter a hurricane , an earthquake..or a small bomb of some sort..it would have been the beggining of their Martial law..

Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to get authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680_pf.html

Many Evacuated, but Thousands Still Waiting
White House Shifts Blame to State and Local Officials

Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, September 4, 2005; A01
Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.


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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4839666



NPR-ATC - aired "Katrina Timeline Unexecuted plans - Shocking!


...between Blanco, Nagin and Bush onboard Airforce One, during which GW said "I'll send in the troops if you answer to the WH"

The Audio for this story will be available at approx. 7:30 p.m. ET

NPR:
Katrina Timeline: Unexecuted Plans

All Things Considered, September 9, 2005 · Just days before Hurricane Katrina hit, officials from state, local and federal agencies were hearing that this could very likely be the big one -- the one they knew could devastate the city. They spent the weekend in almost non-stop conference calls -- making sure all the plans for food, water and security were in place. But even before the storm hit, some of the plans started to fall apart. National Guard troops in other states sat ready, waiting for orders that never came. Instead, they were told to wait for an official plan and a chain of command to be established. NPR's Daniel Zwerdling and Laura Sullivan report.

Link
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=48...



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And * was conferenced in. :shrug: At any rate, it is nice to see Brownie turning the tables a little. Now watch Rove eat him for breakfast. This will get uglier.

*had video conference call with Max Mayfield, head of the National Hurricane Center..before hurricane..he knew it was going to be as bad as it was!!

see last paragraph from my files..fly



President Bush's absurd question underscores the arrogance of an administration whose "limited government" agenda is responsible for the disastrous federal response to Katrina.

By Sidney Blumenthal



http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/09/08/limited_government/index_np.html

snip:

Even as the floodwaters poured into New Orleans, unimpeded by any federal effort to stanch the flow, the White House mustered a tightly coordinated rapid response of political damage control. Karl Rove assumed emergency management powers. The strategy was to dampen any criticism of the president, rally the Republican base, and cast blame on the mayor of New Orleans and governor of Louisiana, both Democrats. It was a classic Bush ploy against the backdrop of crisis. The object was to polarize the nation along partisan lines as swiftly as possible. While policy collapsed, politics reigned. Once again, Bush the divider, not the uniter, emerged.

snip:

Meanwhile, his aides sought to blame New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin and Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco. On Sept. 3, the Washington Post, citing an anonymous "senior administration official," reported that Blanco "still had not declared a state of emergency." Newsweek published a similar report. Within hours, however, the Post published a correction; the report was false. In fact, Blanco had declared an emergency on Aug. 26 and sent President Bush a letter on Aug. 27 requesting that the federal government declare an emergency and provide aid; and, in fact, Bush did make such a declaration, thereby accepting responsibility. Nonetheless, these facts have not stymied White House aides from their drumbeat that state and local officials - but curiously, not the Republican governors of Mississippi and Alabama - are ultimately to blame.

****see this next part!!!!!!!!!!!!!!****


snip: this part is important..see that * saw a video conference call!!!!!!!!! of possible damage ahead of hurricane!!:

The New Orleans Times-Picayune disclosed that Max Mayfield, head of the National Hurricane Center, briefed Brown and Chertoff before the hurricane made landfall of its potential disastrous consequences. "We were briefing them way before landfall," Mayfield said. "It's not like this was a surprise. We had in the advisories that the levee could be topped." The day after Bush's Cabinet room attack on bureaucracy, the St. Petersburg Times revealed that Mayfield had also briefed President Bush in a video conference call. "I just wanted to be able to go to sleep that night knowing that I did all I could do," Mayfield said.

There was only one photo, released by the WH. Then they released that weird videotape where bush stood at a podium and made a few remarks about Iraq and Katrina. It was weird because he hadn't been seen in days. He'd been staying at that Idaho resort, riding bikes. Then he'd been hiding from Cindy on his "ranch." The video thing was weird - there was some technical glitch the first time, remember? Then they re-released it? But anyway I believe that's Max Mayfield giving the briefing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=377207&mesg_id=377207

i remember a real debate about the phone on the desk having no connection!!

what a fucking joke..that prick knew and he let it happen so he could take military control of lousiana!

that rotten prick!

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Crawford, San Diego, 220-221 it's all the same to President Nitwit and his sidekick "your doing a heck of a job Brownie".