Is the House of Cards about to fall?

All I'm hearing/seeing, and/or hearing/seeing about on MSM, as well as elsewhere of course, is stuff about HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS.

Oh man, I hate to get my hopes up again, but it feels really different now. It feels like the implosion of this fascist regime has actually begun, in real time, live on T.V. Am I being delusional, or are others on the same page?

you are not delusional just overly hopefull. It isn't going to happen.

Because it will go nowhere now. The Republicans have control of both houses. They may want it to go to a vote, so they can vote it down to preclude Democrats holding impeachment votes next year.

I say we keep our powder dry and wait until we have the majorities again -- and then impeach and remove.

If he waits until 2007, there's more risk that he won't have that avenue. That is why they are trying to get the goods unloaded on Hastert (Turkish bribery), Bush (wiretaps) and Cheney (Plamegate) now, so that they can get a new "clean" Speaker of the House, that will take over when both of them resign under fire, so that the "clean guy" can pardon them and not be impeachable.

But they may realize their time is up, and are making the best of it. Who the f*** knows? :shrug:

...Never Giving Up.

Also, Gore, Kennedy and Kerry. Keep hammering away at the corrupt regime and why they leak classified info and how incompetant they are. Neocon ideas are stupid and don't serve the American people well at all.

The shit is hitting the fan and sticking to bush this time.
What Cheney did was treason ..... End of Story.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x75107

maybe the little fantasy I wrote in Jan will come true.

I just hope it falls on them and not on us!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If * goes down, how could this hurt "us"?? Inquiring minds want to know. :hi:

Run on the dollar, weak enonomy bolstered only by huge unsustainanble defense outlays, a world that's totally fed up with us, our leadership and their policies, and yet we are so heavily indebted to these same foreigners. Remember, the smart Bushies have probably been keeping non-dollar investments in foreign accounts for years; that's the way it usually works in very corrupt governments. We may be the ones who have to pay for their sins.

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"both parties!!!"

* had such a shitty one.

Excellent!

When these guys like Libby and Abramoff start thinking about jail time, their knees buckle. There is nothing fun about being in jail, although federal pens are much "nicer" than county or state pens. The feeling of being locked up in an enclosed space is nearly unbearable. I think the combined testimony of Libby, Abramoff, Brown and more to come will cost the * administration and the repugs many seat sin the coming elections.

you know SOMETHING is changing. I wouldn't say the house is ready to fall yet but there are cracks in the foundation.

Without Cheney and the other "adults" around, they'll have to remove the Boy King. I can hear it now:

Poppy: "It's for the good of the Grand Old Party, son."

Dubya: "But, but, it's just so h-a-r-d . . ."

Poppy: "Now, now we can get you an ice cream cone on the way home -- just stop crying."

Dubya: "Only if I can have my usual, just like the old days."

Babs: "No, you can't have a Jack & Coke - Baskin & Robbins doesn't offer that flavor, anymore, dear. Maybe Jeb can fix you up . . . he's up here from Miami, just for you."

Dubya: "No Spaghetti-Os for Dubya, mommy. . . Jeb always eats all the Rice-a-Roni"

Poppy: "Oh, fer crizsakes you stupid little poop. Babs, do you have some more of those little pills . . ."

More at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/9/11356/61794

I like that.

Another interesting truth has begun to shine thru, as well.

That is, THEY ARE THE MINORITY VIEW! THE NEOCONS ARE A TINY MINORITY!

We need to shout this from the rooftops. Because, the sheeples need to be enpowered by this fact.

Do you keep bailing the boat out, or do you get out and let is sink?

I think it will be a mutiny. I think McCain will re-organize and start the impeachment and take command. I don't know the line of succession, but, at this point, even Rice is more useful than Cheney or the boy king. I think with a GOP mutiny, Rice would cow tow. I really do.

Something big is shifting. Something is going to happen. Cheney bought that house in virginia because he knew this all couldn't last.

going to be impeached? He isn't going to step down. He will not be forced out. He won't resign.

It is a exercise in mental futility

He will be gone after the 2008 election replaced by the next guy the powers to be want in office.

The powers to be don't care what stripe {dem or rethug} the guy is, just as long as the country prospers and they can make money

everything is, in the Bush junta/Corporate Ruled Empire, and in the war profiteering corporate news monopoly version of reality (la-la land, BushWorld). I'm open-ended, at the moment, on what kind of scenario they're playing out. The main thing they're after--short term anyway--is protection from investigation and prosecution of their many, many, very serious crimes. This means that, at the very least, they have to control who the Democratic Party nominee is in '08, which they can easily do with their remote-controlled vote tabulation system, and near total control over corporate news media. I think they've already picked Hillary and she's already made a deal with them (a deal involving no serious investigation of Bush crimes, and retention of unconstitutional executive powers such as pervasive warrantless wiretapping--and it could also involve invasion of Iran/Syria).

And I think they might let her win--because they'll want to start blaming Dems for Bush's financial and foreign policy disasters; they need a military Draft (which Bush can't do, even with his artificial majority in Congress); and they don't want a Repub in the WH if any serious civil unrest has to be "handled." It may be their long term plan is to install the real Hitler in '12 (the person for whom all these fascist executive powers are designed--my pick, Rumsfeld) amidst economic meltdown, civil chaos, disintegration of the center/left, and what-all (Germany 1930s).

You see, the current Bush junta crowd just seems to me like a wrecking crew. They're not Nazis. They're not creating a mighty military/industrial machine out of a broken country. They're just looters. They're BREAKING the country.

The above scenario would mean that they do not intend to field a serious candidate in '08. But another scenario might be Cheney resigning, and a fresh face put in his place, to be Diebolded into office in '08. The GOP is pretty bereft of fresh, un-scandaled faces. People have mentioned McCain. I find him repulsive. But repulsive doesn't stop Republicans. Maybe McCain, with Rumsfeld as the V-P candidate, then, once they're in power, McCain gets assassinated. (I could easily believe that of Rumsfeld.)

The trick for Hillary would be to put together such a fabulously talented administration that she could actually overcome the disasters that the Bush junta is leaving behind. A tall order. I don't know if she's up to it. If she is, she won't be the first opportunist in history to actually turn out to be a great leader. But she'll have quite a tide to buck--because we KNOW they won't be putting Hillary in office to have her succeed.

I'm not sure about the '06 by-elections. I think they will give us some very modest gains, not anything close to a majority. They may want to take the steam out of the election reform movement--in order to retain Bushite corporate control of vote tabulation (with their 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code and virtually no audit/recount controls--these machines can easily be hacked to give Republicans and warmongers a 5% to 10% advantage going in.)

One hope I see, if it's the Hillary scenario, is that even a War Democrat has to pay lip service to progressive values, like transparent elections, and so, we might be able to wrangle a real election reform bill, for a swift national solution to the Diebold/ES&S problem. With transparent elections, we might be able to head off the final stage of the fascist junta. Otherwise, it's a longer slog through state/local jurisdictions to try to restore our right to vote.

I do think there is SOMETHING coming down the road, in the immediate future. I think that the few venues of honest government that we have left--such as the Fitzgerald investigation--perhaps combined with some other things (Abramoff, 9/11, AIPAC/Franklin, who knows?) may well put sufficient pressure on the fascists, to force them to rearrange the thrones.

(Sidelight: I've often wondered about that plane or missile or whatever it was that hit the Pentagon, with Rumsfeld inside--supposedly--and with Cheney off in his bomb shelter. Rumsfeld's the one who drew all NORAD decisions into his own hands three months before 9/11, and then was AWOL during the critical hour, when the Air Force/NORAD should have been protecting our nation's capitol. Did the tables get turned on him? Are we seeing a battle of the Dark Lords--Rumsfeld vs. Cheney? I do sense Rumsfeld as the mastermind behind Traitorgate--I call him "the Lurker." Could it all have been set up to do Cheney in, as revenge for blowing away part of the Pentagon? Just an idle thought.)

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Throw Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

Hillary is NOW speaking out about everything and even Evan Bayh. When he does than you know something is going down!

true representative of the people, and not very many Democrats qualify. Doesn't mean I won't support them, for what it's worth, if they don't acknowledge the problem of non-transparent elections and pledge to get private corporations out of our election system. But I save my enthusiam and the few dollars I have for the true-blues. The genuine article. I don't even fully trust Boxer or Kennedy--though Boxer was great on the Ohio election crimes against black and other minority voters, and Kennedy on many other issues. I just see it as fundamental. Should we have Bushite corporations counting our votes in secret? Because that's the reality, and hardly any of them will even say it. Some are corrupt. Some are scared. Some fear people not voting if they tell them the truth. Whatever the reason, it is simply TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE to have such an election system, and SHOULD BE totally unacceptable to Democrats. Transparent elections ARE democracy. And I can only think that even the best of them are Mandarins who don't really believe in democracy. Or they'd be yelling their heads off about this.

sentence? or "war crimes"?

if that happens, maybe I'll entertain a molecule of optimism.

This, to me at least, is amazing. :wow:

they still have a long ways to go.

I'm still waiting for some reporting on the newest UK memo leak in which Bush proposed to paint a U2 plane in UN colors and provoke an attack from Iraq to justify war. That story appeared in the Guardian over a week ago I think.
The story has recieved quite a bit of attention outside the US of course, but almost none here.
The corp. media are still in bed with the war criminals, I'm afraid.

more they become martyrs. We're stuck in a mini history-repeats-itself cycle with these bastards. Blame the media.

:)